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psilo.jts
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how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS*
#23379810 - 06/25/16 05:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I live In an apartment situation in PA, and it is VERY HOT especially being on the 2nd floor. NOW I am pretty much broke, so it will be a little more difficult using what I have at my exposal, but if their is something maybe I could splurge on it. Anyway my SGFC only has three cakes in it at the moment, two of which have been in for a very long time and basically dried out due to the month they were in there, so I re dunked em in cold/cooler water then room and now they are starting to create primordia and pinning. I have three more that just got done consolidating and are currently on hour 8 of first dunk. but my set up is ontop of a built in chest/cubby up against my back windows, which is open most of the time, and perpendicular to this window is another window which is always open bringing in a cross breeze with my setup in the middle of this cross breeze. with that I have a 3 speed standing fan blowing towards it, bc my bed is also in this cross breeze so that I can get some relief from this 80 and above temps. now from explaining this my SGFC is receiving A LOT lf FAE. not just from my fan/mistbottle combo, like what ppl have for the beach, but also this cross breeze and other fan for myself. this is my first grow and really wish I did it In winter or early spring bc I wouldn't have this problem, but how can I get the environment inside my chamber to be at a comfortable temp for my babies? I want some sweet babies, and not contaminated cakes bc of this crazy heat! only at night time and early morning is it perfect conditions for them. So please, I beg of some help from experienced cultivators whom have maybe experienced the same situation and can shed some light on what is the best thing to do. I don't have a digital thermometer/humidity reader, but im assuming the humidity is fine due to the constant droplets of water on the sides and lid. Each time I go to mist and then fan, I first stick my head in and can just feel the humidity, but sticky humidity bc its hotter in the chamber sometimes then in the air around me. which is already really hot for the majority of the time. So once again some help and advice is very crucial for me right now. and with my unique arrangement of how my room is set up for FAE is something that reading older threads from years ago just only gives ideas. but I would prefer to have a more personal discussion on this.
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Spiritwithin
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: psilo.jts]
#23379820 - 06/25/16 06:08 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Most important thing is to keep the direct sun out of your apartment.
What I did: I bought some rescue blancets (the ones with a gold and silver side, cost is 1$) and covered the windows with it, from the outside! silver side out. You can stick it directly to the glass, using egg-white as glue, but I found it's better to span it across the frame. It will look nicer and is easier to remove.
As a side effect, I like the ambient light it lets through, its very effective at keeping the heat out, and is cheap as dirt. It's not the prettiest solution though, especially from the outside.
Hope this helps.
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Edited by Spiritwithin (06/25/16 06:15 AM)
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psilo.jts
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: Spiritwithin]
#23379850 - 06/25/16 06:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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that picture on my post was taken this morning at 630 when the sun is only time directly on them. they receive indirect sunlight like right now. so its not the 20 min of direct sunlight in the early AM that's causing the problem. its the problem the apartment doesn't have central air, and we aren't allowed to have a window A/C. so its like I have to cope with it and figure out a way in order to lower the temp inside the environment in my FC when the temperature peaks from 11-8 of being in the 80s. like today here in Lancaster pa its supposed to be a high of 87. so me being on the second floor with heat rising means my room will be like almost in the 90s... so its a What should I use to cool the FC.
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psilo.jts
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: psilo.jts]
#23379874 - 06/25/16 06:47 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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this is how it is throughout the whole day, except for when the 12 hrs of light is up which I put it in the closet until its dark out around 930 and put it back to its spot on the chest/cubby.
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: psilo.jts]
#23379881 - 06/25/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You need more holes. Every two inches.
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Myko Fanatikos
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: Kayone]
#23379908 - 06/25/16 07:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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And you can move it away from the window, The whole room still receives indirect sunlight
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psilo.jts
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: Myko Fanatikos]
#23379964 - 06/25/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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its the whole room getting in the high 80s throughout the day. if anything it being in the cross breeze of the windows will bring fresh air to pass thru it to possibly help bring the temp down.. I froze about 5 water bottles and wasn't sure if cycling them throughout the day to have a ice block once the temps get very high to possibly bring the temp down in its FC..
Thanks for inputs
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: psilo.jts]
#23379989 - 06/25/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Get that fan away from your FC. Fanning will only dry out your cakes too quickly and the holes in the SGFC give it enough FAE if built to spec anyway. You don't even need to fan after misting... Honestly I wouldn't worry too much about the temps reaching into the 80s I don't have AC either and my mushrooms grow in these temps just fine and apparently mushrooms do well in higher temps anyway. The only worry may be contam issues but I have faith myc will hold its own once its completely colonized. Just keep an eye and a nose on em
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Edited by ComebackKid (06/25/16 08:16 AM)
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: ComebackKid]
#23380048 - 06/25/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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My temps have been a constant 85F for about 1.5-2weeks straight. This week it's been in the low 80's but it's about to start getting hotter again. It's not even summer tbh, so it will get much worse. Nothing you can do about the heat without an AC, a fan is useless, cakes don't have sweat glands like we do so you will only be drying them out.
If your cakes are clean from contams, they will still perform. Focus on sterile tek rather than trying to bring temps down.
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23380097 - 06/25/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Your cakes ARE looking a little dry. Someone pointed out to me on some of my older cakes that smoothness/overlay you have on the top of your cake is from letting it dry out too much. There isn't much verm/casing on your cake which would probably help combat that issue. They may benefit from more verm and less fan
Edited by ComebackKid (06/25/16 09:15 AM)
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psilo.jts
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: ComebackKid]
#23380310 - 06/25/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea once I dunked em for about 20hrs and rinsed them off, the verm wouldn't stick to it much. all the verm that's on them is pretty much bc the mycelium grew to in and locked it in. the bottoms are especially hard to get verm to stick .. but so far I have done every thing everyone has explained to me and crossing my fingers.. but I saw on another sit of an few individuals putting a straw into the middle of the cakes, about 2/3s of the way thru the cake and then filling the straw with water and having it leveled off with the top of the cake, or a little more to keep them from drying out. I have these three more consolidated cakes taking a nice cool dunk and will be out by 6pm. so I was considering doing that?? any thoughts or ideas?
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psilo.jts
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: psilo.jts]
#23380330 - 06/25/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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thank you guys for all the feedback. its definitely something that is very much appreciated! you guys are awesome
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Supalemonhaze
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: psilo.jts]
#23380366 - 06/25/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Some people use something to make a dent at the top of the cake (the bottom of the jar). Forgot what they use exactly but it would basically be a small water resavoir which you fill with verm and mist well. It's said to help with pinning on top as well IIRC. I'm not much of a cake guy though, better let someone else elaborate.
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23380397 - 06/25/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Supalemonhaze said: Some people use something to make a dent at the top of the cake (the bottom of the jar). Forgot what they use exactly but it would basically be a small water resavoir which you fill with verm and mist well. It's said to help with pinning on top as well IIRC. I'm not much of a cake guy though, better let someone else elaborate.
When I did cakes I just made a pocket by sprinkling sterile verm on top. Kind of like a doughnut pattern. Even used clean plastic jar lids under them which would hold some water short term after misting. I boiled the lids between dunks and drained them off if any water pooled from the cakes after dunks. Seemed to work well for me back then imo.
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: Supalemonhaze]
#23380402 - 06/25/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I read a post recently made by Adden (who grows some fantastic cakes) saying he just drops a scoop of verm on top of the cake, then waits a day or two to mist (misting gently from above) to prevent the verm from washing off.
Here's the link, third post from the top: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23369156/fpart/2#23369156
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: psilo.jts]
#23380411 - 06/25/16 10:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was having problems keeping a nice thick verm layer on my cakes as well. I changed the way I rolled and it seemed to work out well. Fill the jar lid about half with fresh verm then saturated it with water. I didnt dunk my caked after birth so I heavily misted it till it was dripping with water. As soon as you finish misting or pulling from dunk and placing the cake on the lid full of saturated verm quickly bury your cake, lid and all, into a bag of vermiculite. Then scoop verm on top and gently press it against the cake. After puling it out of your verm bag you will have a heaping cake covered in vermiculite. Be careful when misting it to leave as much verm as you can on the cake as the verm soaks in the water
Here's a pic of my current cakes. You cant see any myc through the verm layer. Nice and thick and keeps moisture and humidity optimum between misting. (no fanning) The lid under my cake is nice too because now I can pick up my cake by the lid and give it a good misting on all sides instead of just from above. Remember that the reason you do a roll is to replicate a casing layer. Having your whole cake exposed to the elements with a tiny nothing layer of verm kind of defeats that pourpose.
And here's a pic of my cakes before I started using this method Notice the overlay/stroma build-up on the bottom of the cake. I was reading the overlay link I sent you and they say some people choose to scratch this layer with a fork or something. Seemed a little extreme to me. I ended up breaking these cakes up and casing them in tupperware with decent results.
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: ComebackKid]
#23380538 - 06/25/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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80+ is fine for fruiting, ditch the fan and dont let the sun overheat your FC. dont do anything drastic to your cakes, no offence but you're only gonna fuck things up. every new guy does it
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spacechildo
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: ComebackKid]
#23380544 - 06/25/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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ComebackKid said: I was having problems keeping a nice thick verm layer on my cakes as well.
dunk and rinse your cakes and try just burying them in a bowl of verm. let them sit for a while and dont mist for half a day or so until the verm has stuck to the cake. burying is better/more effective than rolling IMO.
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: spacechildo]
#23380800 - 06/25/16 01:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
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ComebackKid said: I was having problems keeping a nice thick verm layer on my cakes as well.
dunk and rinse your cakes and try just burying them in a bowl of verm. let them sit for a while and dont mist for half a day or so until the verm has stuck to the cake. burying is better/more effective than rolling IMO.
You didn't read the rest of my post
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Re: how to lower and control temperature in SGFC due to being summer and house doesnt have A/C *PICS* [Re: ComebackKid]
#23380814 - 06/25/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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