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Offlinebeforethedawn
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    #23375533 - 06/23/16 10:47 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Money is our reality, reality is difficult to obtain and handle, Stoicism and Darwinism, quantum uncertainty, such is the philosophy of the past, such is the philosophy of the future. It will never change but there's no way to be certain.

Time represents nothing,
time presents nothing,
nothing is in the present,
nothing is in the represented.
With nothing in between.
Time is about nothing,
time is in nothing.
Time is IN the Present.
Time repeats.

Nothing has been said. I have presented nothing. This is total nonsense. But that's not what I said.

The present is spiritual wealth. They present money. We say it is "about time", so money represents nothing, we "save it for later." We're getting nowhere. You can bank on this.

Fine, don't believe me. There's no room for belief here. This is reality. The assumption is reality is love. Do you believe in a thing called Love?



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Re: Money [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23375540 - 06/23/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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beforethedawn said:
The assumption is reality is love. Do you believe in a thing called Love?



Absolutely and totally. With all my heart.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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Re: Money [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23375555 - 06/23/16 10:54 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

So then,

what I said was beautiful

making you feel love.

It's true, if you believe it.

So the truth is beautiful.

Love is the truth.


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Re: Money [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23375573 - 06/23/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

It's a bit of a wafty theory, but I believe that love is somehow the underlying force of the entire universe.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Money [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23375956 - 06/24/16 02:55 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

You are precisely on the right track my friend.

Stay in touch. :heart:


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Re: Money [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23376020 - 06/24/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I feel so. Many synchronicities have started to appear in my path again. Falling into unconditional love first showed me the power and frequency of synchronicities when one is true to ones heart. Wallowing in pain for a year or so for reasons I shall not go into at this moment I mostly lost sight of them. However a recent change in path to follow my heart again has brought them back in abundance.

I might be a victim of madness, confirmation bias, or any number of the fallibilities of the human condition, but in my simple mind I know one thing; I'm damn sure there's a higher power/intelligence in existence, and if I really work hard on focusing in the right way, then I'm fucking damn sure there's some way to interpret what it provides in the most rudimentary manner. And it's language seems to be something more akin to love than anything else I could describe.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Money [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23379736 - 06/25/16 05:17 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Once again I come back to remind you that all of what you just said is correct. :smile:

Look for patterns in the present. Use time to see where you should start - what do you obsess over?

How does it connect to something in the present?

Look for patterns.

Then, retrace the steps (if you feel you are going the wrong way, or are trapped)

I explained it to my schizophrenic brother tonight, and he went straight into it, no effort needed.

If you connect, your intelligence is their intelligence. It is dumb to overcomplicate, so they will be too dumb to understand.

:heart:

If you rationalise, just see how it FEELS to rationalise AT THAT POINT.

Say you got to stop looking for patterns because you got to feed the kids. GOOD FEELING.

Say you got to stop looking for patterns because it's all nonsense and probability. BAD FEELING.


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Re: Money [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23381058 - 06/25/16 02:55 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

In my experience love is just a fleeting hope people cling to that doesn't help you when you need it the most, and yet you yearn for it, pursue it, in the hopes that something will change.

I'm very doubtful of a higher power or intelligence, because such a thing must really get a kick out of watching people dance into oblivion on this planet. Beyond love, hope, joy, sorrow, and sadness is a void. To it all things go an none return. It seems as though that is to be our fate, to consume ourselves. Then when the dust settles we are nothing but a footnote in eternity. And the universe goes on.

Also what I have learned is just because you believe in something does not make it so.


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Re: Money [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23381241 - 06/25/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

beforethedawn said:
Once again I come back to remind you that all of what you just said is correct. :smile:

Look for patterns in the present. Use time to see where you should start - what do you obsess over?

How does it connect to something in the present?

Look for patterns.

Then, retrace the steps (if you feel you are going the wrong way, or are trapped)

I explained it to my schizophrenic brother tonight, and he went straight into it, no effort needed.

If you connect, your intelligence is their intelligence. It is dumb to overcomplicate, so they will be too dumb to understand.

:heart:

If you rationalise, just see how it FEELS to rationalise AT THAT POINT.

Say you got to stop looking for patterns because you got to feed the kids. GOOD FEELING.

Say you got to stop looking for patterns because it's all nonsense and probability. BAD FEELING.




Today I picked up a place for a fair price and the seller commented on how it is a "feel good" place.  Yes, privacy and space feels good, beautiful trees and plants feel good, shade feels good, looking at nature feels good, having one neighbor and that's it feels good.  They feel good selling it I feel good buying it my realtor feels good making money on a quick deal.  It is possible to have a win win win situation, given proper circumstances where all can win.  Not typical, but possible.


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Re: Money [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23383059 - 06/26/16 06:01 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Time is money and genuine love can't be bought.

I believe selfless love is genuine care and selfish love is selfish desire, which is okay but it's not real love.


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Re: Money [Re: sudly]
    #23383525 - 06/26/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

sudly said:
Time is money and genuine love can't be bought.

I believe selfless love is genuine care and selfish love is selfish desire, which is okay but it's not real love.



BOOM. Bang on sudly, right with ya on that. I see you posting more of this kinda thing recently. You feel you're attitude towards such concepts is changing or are you just talking about it more?


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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Re: Money [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23383855 - 06/26/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Not to ignore anyone else but I too have noticed a big change in sudly. :smile:

What's really beautiful and enlightening is to find reality couldn't have been any other way.

The only logically possible world is a perfect world.


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Re: Money [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23385072 - 06/26/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe I summarised it better :shrug:
It's the same belief I've had for a while now.


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Re: Money [Re: sudly]
    #23385231 - 06/26/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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sudly said:
Time is money and genuine love can't be bought.

I believe selfless love is genuine care and selfish love is selfish desire, which is okay but it's not real love.




But how do you determine whether or not something is genuine? People are usually motivated by something that causes them to act, usually guilt. Or maybe it's something that occurs below awareness.

And how can you be sure that you can't buy genuine love? I sure there are at least some instances of it occurring.


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Re: Money [Re: Thanatos10]
    #23385456 - 06/26/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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But how do you determine whether or not something is genuine? People are usually motivated by something that causes them to act, usually guilt. Or maybe it's something that occurs below awareness.




Axiomatically.
E.g. Someone is with their partner because they care about them and want what's best for them.
Or
Someone is with their partner for their own convenience and are taking them for granted.

Motivation may come around as a need for some people because as the saying goes, "necessity is the mother of invention."

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And how can you be sure that you can't buy genuine love? I'm sure there are at least some instances of it occurring.




Because respect is usually something you have to earn.
In a way you can buy respect but you can also buy fake boobs so I wouldn't consider it real.


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Re: Money [Re: sudly]
    #23385701 - 06/26/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Isn't it usually because they want something in return or is it because society tends to sometimes value the saint like behavior some show (like a loved one taking care of you when you no longer can).


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Re: Money [Re: Thanatos10]
    #23385789 - 06/26/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

More money more better...more money more happy? Not always.

"Time is money and genuine love can't be bought"

Having traveled extensively in 3rd world nations I can tell you this is patently false.


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Re: Money [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #23385952 - 06/26/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Time is money doesn't have to mean anything about happiness, it's just that time has to be spent to make money.

So how'd you figure out you can buy true love in a third world country?


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Re: Money [Re: Thanatos10]
    #23385960 - 06/26/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I'd like to think morals are to blame.


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Re: Money [Re: sudly]
    #23385991 - 06/26/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

When resources are scarce relationships...real ones...can be based on the distribution of those resources. Hungry people can't love...only fed ones. The hungry ones just want to survive. Maybe if you haven't seen real poverty this is not easy to accept. Real poverty doesn't exist in the US by the way...


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