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OfflineDr.Wongburger
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Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this * 2
    #23379266 - 06/25/16 12:49 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Britain certainly has showed the way they feel about migrants.



"The people of the United Kingdom ... have declared their independence from the European Union, and have voted to reassert control over their own politics, borders and economy." — Donald Trump

http://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/international/story/2016/jun/24/reactions-britains-vote-leave-european-union/628793/



“It feels like 17 million people voted that they don’t want me here. Like we are unwanted and some kind of European scum,” -Charlotte Bussey, a 41-year-old resident


http://www.latimes.com/world/europe/la-fg-brexit-forward-20160624-snap-story.html

What do you guy's think of this? Any Brits here? How do you feel about it?



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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Dr.Wongburger] * 2
    #23379444 - 06/25/16 02:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

We made our currency plummet in value and now everyone in Europe hates us. Huge triumph.

This is a terrible outcome in my opinion and that of everyone I've spoken to about it. Northern Ireland will have their revenge on the rest of the UK for this.


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23379447 - 06/25/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Shroomopotamus] * 2
    #23379499 - 06/25/16 02:55 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Why are people shock about this Britain was besides germeny propping the eu up. They get nothing out of the eu besides debt


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: tump]
    #23379730 - 06/25/16 05:16 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I wonder if my Mum will be deported... She's a migrant.


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23380679 - 06/25/16 12:23 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Very interesting. Why do you believe this has come about?


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23382275 - 06/25/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Their country was turning half muslim,like ours is turning half mex,gotta do something about it


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: 5150]
    #23382283 - 06/25/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Brexit vote caused me muslim to Brleave the country and fell to netherlands

I hope family is safe here to practice our sharia law sorry if english bad it is how you say my new languages


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Pnut]
    #23382285 - 06/25/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I am thinking of learning germaning because they friendly are to my people


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Pnut]
    #23382292 - 06/25/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

immigrants probably work constantly
that's why
no one wants to hire a college or high school person unless they're really stupid jobs
I've seen factories full of these people, want to talk about affirmative action


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Konyap] * 2
    #23382301 - 06/25/16 09:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yes I am hardworking Netherlands muslim clock builder now, the UK doesnt have time for my retro briefcase clocks, and clock vests


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Pnut]
    #23382808 - 06/26/16 02:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes I am hardworking Netherlands muslim clock builder now, the UK doesnt have time for my retro briefcase clocks, and clock vests




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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23382833 - 06/26/16 02:34 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Dr.Wongburger said:

“It feels like 17 million people voted that they don’t want me here. Like we are unwanted and some kind of European scum,” -Charlotte Bussey, a 41-year-old resident






You misquoted the article.

Quote:

Andrea Vidmar, a newlywed hairstylist from Croatia, wondered if Europeans who are not British would be forced to leave. She has lived in London for two years and is hoping to buy a home and start a family.

“It feels like 17 million people voted that they don’t want me here. Like we are unwanted and some kind of European scum,” she said, visibly shaken.




I think most of the anger is coming about from the migrants coming over from the middle east, based on what i've seen from videos and what not. I wouldn't be very if some migrants came to my town, set up centers for Sharia Law, or went around at night telling people that they couldn't be homosexual, or drink beer, or do anything that isn't allowed in their religious law. However, I think this also affects migrants from other areas as well. One of my friends over there said his girlfriend is polish, and that he thinks that she may be deported.

Am I wrong about it being mostly about the migrant issue? Could someone kindly paint a better picture for me of what's all going on over there? Feel free to go into detail, I'm genuinely interested.


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: EllisDSox]
    #23382861 - 06/26/16 03:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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BERSERK DESTROYER said:
We made our currency plummet in value and now everyone in Europe hates us. Huge triumph.

This is a terrible outcome in my opinion and that of everyone I've spoken to about it. Northern Ireland will have their revenge on the rest of the UK for this.



"WE WILL NEVER RECOVER!!!11!!!1" literally recovered

oh the horror!


Edited by TioWWW999 (06/26/16 03:28 AM)


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: TioWWW999] * 3
    #23382864 - 06/26/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

To everyone who was disappointed after seeing the results on friday morning



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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Konyap]
    #23382875 - 06/26/16 03:33 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Konyap said:
immigrants probably work constantly
that's why
no one wants to hire a college or high school person unless they're really stupid jobs
I've seen factories full of these people, want to talk about affirmative action



Poles doing low skilled cheap labor (also getting free benefits at the same time) and lowering the wages isn't the best thing for ordinary blue collar workers you know?


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: 404]
    #23382932 - 06/26/16 04:12 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I think most of the anger is coming about from the migrants coming over from the middle east, based on what i've seen from videos and what not.



There's a lot of hate for the Slavs coming over from Eastern Europe too.
I've heard comparisons of Easterners being regarded similarly to how some see Mexicans in our society here across the pond.

While Brexit may prove it's self more beneficial than detrimental in the long run, the reasoning for the referendum seems like poor ground to stand on.
I see a lot of Brits here hating on neoconservative Americans, but y'all have a similar crowd of xenophobic racists who love Farage.


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: TioWWW999]
    #23382935 - 06/26/16 04:13 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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BERSERK DESTROYER said:
We made our currency plummet in value and now everyone in Europe hates us. Huge triumph.

This is a terrible outcome in my opinion and that of everyone I've spoken to about it. Northern Ireland will have their revenge on the rest of the UK for this.



"WE WILL NEVER RECOVER!!!11!!!1" literally recovered

oh the horror!




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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Pnut]
    #23383236 - 06/26/16 07:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes I am hardworking Netherlands muslim clock builder now, the UK doesnt have time for my retro briefcase clocks, and clock vests





neanderthal cock blocker?


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23383371 - 06/26/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Britain certainly has showed the way they feel about migrants.









i wouldn't be too worried about what a tabloid says


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: demiu5]
    #23383388 - 06/26/16 09:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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demiu5 said:
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Dr.Wongburger said:
Britain certainly has showed the way they feel about migrants.







i wouldn't be too worried about what a tabloid says




is that because you dont live int he UK or is it because you like to believe that
millions of immigrants entering a country are wealthy enough that they wont need
jobs because they're self sustaining


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8609827/UK-jobs-Migrants-take-the-jobs-from-young-Britons.html
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/487645/Migrants-take-British-workers-jobs-says-official-study
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3554769/Leaked-jobs-report-reveals-civil-servants-concern-EU-influx.html


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23383436 - 06/26/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

clearly, not ALL jobs are being taken by immigrants


the tabloid, also clearly, states "ALL"



hype and fear mongering


as well, the first article you posted claims a steady increase in low-skilled jobs being given (NOT TAKEN) to migrants since 1997.  this is a few years after the EU fiasco began


from the 2nd article:

Quote:

“Even as our economy starts to pick up, and new jobs are created, there is a risk that young people in Britain won’t get the chances they deserve because businesses will continue to look elsewhere,” he will say.





risk doesn't equal certainty, chance doesn't equal certainty.  by definition. 


further, the article doesn't state "young British-born residents", it says young people in Britain.  why do, presumably, British-born residents DESERVE a chance over anyone else? 

oh wait, i'm sorry, no one actually made this quote, according to the article, as it has a future-tense verb.  he WILL say.  so it hasn't been said yet by that specific person the article is basing this on

of course business will look elsewhere.  this is how modern industrialism generally functions.  hire the person willing to work for the least amount.  look at how many millions of jobs the USA outsourced over the last two decades.  how many jobs does Britain outsource?


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Edited by demiu5 (06/26/16 09:39 AM)


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: demiu5]
    #23385207 - 06/26/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

demiu5 said:
clearly, not ALL jobs are being taken by immigrants


the tabloid, also clearly, states "ALL"



hype and fear mongering


as well, the first article you posted claims a steady increase in low-skilled jobs being given (NOT TAKEN) to migrants since 1997.  this is a few years after the EU fiasco began


from the 2nd article:

Quote:

“Even as our economy starts to pick up, and new jobs are created, there is a risk that young people in Britain won’t get the chances they deserve because businesses will continue to look elsewhere,” he will say.





risk doesn't equal certainty, chance doesn't equal certainty.  by definition. 


further, the article doesn't state "young British-born residents", it says young people in Britain.  why do, presumably, British-born residents DESERVE a chance over anyone else? 

oh wait, i'm sorry, no one actually made this quote, according to the article, as it has a future-tense verb.  he WILL say.  so it hasn't been said yet by that specific person the article is basing this on

of course business will look elsewhere.  this is how modern industrialism generally functions.  hire the person willing to work for the least amount.  look at how many millions of jobs the USA outsourced over the last two decades.  how many jobs does Britain outsource?





Guess what happens when the immigrant isn't there to compete for jobs?  The native gets the position and gets paid more money, why is that such a difficult concept to understand?


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: qman]
    #23385316 - 06/26/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Basically all of the tabloids who push these stupid propaganda and fear mongering headlines are owned by Rupert Murdoch - they are our versions of Fox news and whatnot.

The votes were swung by mainly an older generation scared, confused and a bit bigoted for the 'safety' of their grand childrens future ect and by fascist fuckers who have made their views more apparent since the since the Brexit win.

A member of Parliment was murdered last week - she was a woman who worked in charity for Oxfam, campained for refugees and migrants and for fairness all round. She was murdered by a fellow British white man in the name of Britain First a rascist sect.

As for the natives getting the jobs for more money - It's the majority of 'natives' sitting on the dole claiming all of the maximum child benefits and housing benefits and dole money they can get their hands on. If they bettered themselves in the first place to go and work then there would be no problem. You can't tarnish everybody who is not from this country a "scrounging, illegal immigrant". A lot are economic migrants, some are refugees and some are asylum seekers. If a country is going to offer great benefits wether you work or not in comparison to your shitty little shack in the middle of eastern europe or your war torn country getting hit by OUR bombs, that is not the immigrants fault, blame the government you voted in.

I have worked with people from all over the globe in the past twelve or so years and they are all hard working tax payers. A polish woman was a dishwasher for me, but she was a qualified maths teacher in Poland. The country did not pay teachers well at the time and she has been here for about six years washing dishes and cleaning, rents her own private flat, dosen't use food banks and pays for her own transport.

The immigrant card has been truly and officially played.

The UKIP and Tory parties have been outed for their public lies in the past couple of days, OUT voters did not even know what they were voting for. OUR GREAT COUNTRY, WE HAVE IT BACK! Yeah, the great country you have been living happily for for forty or more years. The union that has seen you benefit from many rights, workers rights. If you want your country back before the EU then happily take your outside toilets back that you share with neighbours, sharing one bath water with seven siblings and your boiled sheeps arseholes for dinner. Oh no wait! you're probably going to order a curry from the takeaway tonight for Sammy Mohammed, but he's ok coz he does a decent vindaloo.....

Basically from some mental laws, Scotland will push it all back around and we will be back in the EU with maybes a tiny difference in conditions. Tories tried to pull a fast one, hasn't worked.


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: qman]
    #23385356 - 06/26/16 07:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

demiu5 said:
clearly, not ALL jobs are being taken by immigrants


the tabloid, also clearly, states "ALL"



hype and fear mongering


as well, the first article you posted claims a steady increase in low-skilled jobs being given (NOT TAKEN) to migrants since 1997.  this is a few years after the EU fiasco began


from the 2nd article:

Quote:

“Even as our economy starts to pick up, and new jobs are created, there is a risk that young people in Britain won’t get the chances they deserve because businesses will continue to look elsewhere,” he will say.





risk doesn't equal certainty, chance doesn't equal certainty.  by definition. 


further, the article doesn't state "young British-born residents", it says young people in Britain.  why do, presumably, British-born residents DESERVE a chance over anyone else? 

oh wait, i'm sorry, no one actually made this quote, according to the article, as it has a future-tense verb.  he WILL say.  so it hasn't been said yet by that specific person the article is basing this on

of course business will look elsewhere.  this is how modern industrialism generally functions.  hire the person willing to work for the least amount.  look at how many millions of jobs the USA outsourced over the last two decades.  how many jobs does Britain outsource?





Guess what happens when the immigrant isn't there to compete for jobs?  The native gets the position and gets paid more money, why is that such a difficult concept to understand?





it's not a difficult concept by any means.  but what you are describing is isolationism verging on discrimination.  while i'm not opposed to isolationism, that is not the circumstance, currently, with the "Brexit."  it seems the more reasonable solution, if the desired result is to eliminate immigrants and immigrants participating in the labor force, would be to place an end to all immigration immediately.  then, deport all undocumented immigrants. and finally, systematically deport any non-native British citizens

again, for shits and giggles, how many jobs has Britain outsourced?


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Hinny]
    #23385407 - 06/26/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Hinny said:
Basically all of the tabloids who push these stupid propaganda and fear mongering headlines are owned by Rupert Murdoch - they are our versions of Fox news and whatnot.

The votes were swung by mainly an older generation scared, confused and a bit bigoted for the 'safety' of their grand childrens future ect and by fascist fuckers who have made their views more apparent since the since the Brexit win.

A member of Parliment was murdered last week - she was a woman who worked in charity for Oxfam, campained for refugees and migrants and for fairness all round. She was murdered by a fellow British white man in the name of Britain First a rascist sect.

As for the natives getting the jobs for more money - It's the majority of 'natives' sitting on the dole claiming all of the maximum child benefits and housing benefits and dole money they can get their hands on. If they bettered themselves in the first place to go and work then there would be no problem. You can't tarnish everybody who is not from this country a "scrounging, illegal immigrant". A lot are economic migrants, some are refugees and some are asylum seekers. If a country is going to offer great benefits wether you work or not in comparison to your shitty little shack in the middle of eastern europe or your war torn country getting hit by OUR bombs, that is not the immigrants fault, blame the government you voted in.

I have worked with people from all over the globe in the past twelve or so years and they are all hard working tax payers. A polish woman was a dishwasher for me, but she was a qualified maths teacher in Poland. The country did not pay teachers well at the time and she has been here for about six years washing dishes and cleaning, rents her own private flat, dosen't use food banks and pays for her own transport.

The immigrant card has been truly and officially played.

The UKIP and Tory parties have been outed for their public lies in the past couple of days, OUT voters did not even know what they were voting for. OUR GREAT COUNTRY, WE HAVE IT BACK! Yeah, the great country you have been living happily for for forty or more years. The union that has seen you benefit from many rights, workers rights. If you want your country back before the EU then happily take your outside toilets back that you share with neighbours, sharing one bath water with seven siblings and your boiled sheeps arseholes for dinner. Oh no wait! you're probably going to order a curry from the takeaway tonight for Sammy Mohammed, but he's ok coz he does a decent vindaloo.....

Basically from some mental laws, Scotland will push it all back around and we will be back in the EU with maybes a tiny difference in conditions. Tories tried to pull a fast one, hasn't worked.




The UK does NOT have to allow migrants and immigration into the country, that is a choice.

More workers relative to jobs lowers wages for EVERYONE, that also includes the skilled and educated, please explain to us WHY a UK citizen would choose that path for a lower standard of living?  It makes NO sense.

This has nothing to do with newspapers or ignorance, the UK can govern themselves and the voters of the UK know this fact.

Do you have any evidence that the native population uses more tax money on a relative basis than the migrants in the UK?


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: demiu5]
    #23385434 - 06/26/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

demiu5 said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

demiu5 said:
clearly, not ALL jobs are being taken by immigrants


the tabloid, also clearly, states "ALL"



hype and fear mongering


as well, the first article you posted claims a steady increase in low-skilled jobs being given (NOT TAKEN) to migrants since 1997.  this is a few years after the EU fiasco began


from the 2nd article:

Quote:

“Even as our economy starts to pick up, and new jobs are created, there is a risk that young people in Britain won’t get the chances they deserve because businesses will continue to look elsewhere,” he will say.





risk doesn't equal certainty, chance doesn't equal certainty.  by definition. 


further, the article doesn't state "young British-born residents", it says young people in Britain.  why do, presumably, British-born residents DESERVE a chance over anyone else? 

oh wait, i'm sorry, no one actually made this quote, according to the article, as it has a future-tense verb.  he WILL say.  so it hasn't been said yet by that specific person the article is basing this on

of course business will look elsewhere.  this is how modern industrialism generally functions.  hire the person willing to work for the least amount.  look at how many millions of jobs the USA outsourced over the last two decades.  how many jobs does Britain outsource?





Guess what happens when the immigrant isn't there to compete for jobs?  The native gets the position and gets paid more money, why is that such a difficult concept to understand?





it's not a difficult concept by any means.  but what you are describing is isolationism verging on discrimination.  while i'm not opposed to isolationism, that is not the circumstance, currently, with the "Brexit."  it seems the more reasonable solution, if the desired result is to eliminate immigrants and immigrants participating in the labor force, would be to place an end to all immigration immediately.  then, deport all undocumented immigrants. and finally, systematically deport any non-native British citizens

again, for shits and giggles, how many jobs has Britain outsourced?




"verging on discrimination"

Discriminating who does or does NOT enter one's country is the only rational stance a government can take with it's immigration policy.

The UK most likely outsourced millions of jobs out of their country, just like the US, EU, Japan, and others.

Citizens in those countries want to see globalization and immigration policies changes, Trump and this vote are perfect examples of that sentiment.


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: qman]
    #23385445 - 06/26/16 08:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

then the government is the one to blame.  not the immigrants.  don't be frustrated at people trying to do the best they can for themselves.

be frustrated, even angry, at the government which allows what you see as unfit to take place


to note: i wasn't thinking discrimination in the realm of which immigrants can come in.  i certainly don't disagree with a heavy screening process and not in the name of terrorism or any bullshit like that.  i was speaking in terms of job-discrimination


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: demiu5]
    #23385474 - 06/26/16 08:17 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

demiu5 said:
then the government is the one to blame.  not the immigrants.  don't be frustrated at people trying to do the best they can for themselves.

be frustrated, even angry, at the government which allows what you see as unfit to take place


to note: i wasn't thinking discrimination in the realm of which immigrants can come in.  i certainly don't disagree with a heavy screening process and not in the name of terrorism or any bullshit like that.  i was speaking in terms of job-discrimination




The government is 100% at fault, they allow these shitty trade agreements, they allow migrants to illegally enter their countries.

The migrants are only doing what rational people would do, moving to a nicer place for a higher standard of living.

The German people are not happy with Merkel, when the shit hits the fan one day, I hope she has her escape plan in place.


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Re: Great Britain is leaving the EU -Brexit- look's like the migrant's caused this [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #23385666 - 06/26/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

What's really funny is the high demand for a re-vote by the "younger generation". Hmmm.. What happened the first time? To lazy?

Was it only when things got "emotional" and every one was filled with "emotion" because they realized that being lazy and not voting does in fact make a difference but in a negative manner towards their desires?

Not saying that's how it was. I feel this is how Liberal people function over here in the US, they get emotional. It's when emotion is involved that "Shit gets real" for them.

By all mean's I'm not calling them all Liberals but from what I hear from other people I know in person, I hear a vast majority of the younger people there are.

If they all voted the first time, then it wont make a difference and why demand another voting session?

"Over 3 million UK residents signed a petition on Parliament's site demanding a second vote take place, the largest petition the government's website has ever seen. Parliament must debate any proposal with over 100,000 signatures."

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/britain-revote-stop-brexit-081452041.html


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