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Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) * 9
    #23378638 - 06/24/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

SO Ive been recently hunting some good ol pan cyans in the wild...

Unsure where to put it(i dont wanna dry em) so I made this heatless cold extraction by fermenting the mushrooms. It takes just a day or two. Filtered and refrigerated or frozen afterwards.

I used water kefir juice for the 2nd ferment(you ferment muscovado sugar for the 1st ferment) and the results are extravagant!!

you may add citrus juices too for the 2nd ferment. I put in calamondin... faster and heavier onsets.

overfermented water kefir is literally a BOMB. It produces NATURAL CARBONATION. So it may EXPLODE. So make sure you burp your refrigerated kefir tea once a week maybe. Or since youre microdosing it and takes a sip every other day then you dont have to burp it.


cheers.


here's the tek

You need:

mushrooms


water kefir juice brewed from tibicos grains (without the water kefir / tibicos GRAINS, you wont be able to pull this off)





citrus of your choice




its pretty simple.

Once you have the filtered water kefir juice(after a couple of days brewing), just mix in your citrus juice, and mushrooms in a bowl. You may also add GINGER to help with the taste and nausea.




Once mixed in, you may now put it in a GLASS bottle to ferment/extract the actives for a day or two. This is called the '2nd fermentation'. The first fermentation is when you make 'water kefir juice'.







after the 2nd fermentation, you may now filter out the mushrooms and other additives bits and bottle it up, add a bit of HONEY(this will add more 'flavor' to you brew and will also act as preservatives), refrigerate and you're done!



This is perfect for microdosing also.


ENJOY YOUR MAGIK MASHRUM SODA


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute] * 1
    #23378646 - 06/24/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Hows it taste thou?


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23378660 - 06/24/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Please post detailed recipe


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: VedicSoma]
    #23378695 - 06/24/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

:whathesaid:

I like the idea of this. Much better than taking jars of honey to festivals.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23378696 - 06/24/16 08:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

tastes like water kefir. you may add lemon to make it more tolerable.

i dont have any problems with the taste. I love plain water kefir.

and since you have the psilocybin together with the probiotics bacteria and yeast, you get to naturally preserve the 'magic' as well.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: VedicSoma]
    #23378705 - 06/24/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

you need tibicos (water kefir grains) first and foremost.

you ferment some muscovado sugar for you to have that same liquid where you will ferment the mushrooms.

first ferment lasts for about 3 days to a week.

then you filter out the tibicos grains and start a new batch.

the liquid filtrate will now then be used to do your mushroom brew. I like to rip the mushies in bits and pieces by hand.

the 2nd fermentation will last for 1-2 days.

filter out the mushroom solids, squeeze all the liquids out too. at this point you may add more water kefir juice from the filtered mushrooms to get all the goodies out.

when youre done, make sure you refrigerate your fermented mushroom tea for they will continue to ferment and be more on the sour side.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23378715 - 06/24/16 08:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks hey. I have kefir, just never occurred to me to do this with it.

You're a champ. :thumbup:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23378721 - 06/24/16 09:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

In all my years in the shroomery,
I think this is the greatest idea I may ever contribute to the community...

its pretty revolutionary if you ask me. It may take some time but its all worth it.

I hope you guys try this out because its very reliable, especially if you have that mushrooms thats lookin like you wont be able to dry in time.

hehehe.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Northerner]
    #23378738 - 06/24/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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Thanks hey. I have kefir, just never occurred to me to do this with it.

You're a champ. :thumbup:





you gotta try this bro. seriously. youll love it.

cheers.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23378746 - 06/24/16 09:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I go to pretty trashy festivals from time to time and I like to be able to share my mushies around. The thing is dry they are sketchy as fuck so I have been making jars of honey to take. But of course that's waaaay sweet and sits pretty heavy with a lot of people. This seems like the solution. I could probably make it dank strong as well so a mouthful is enough to do the job. :sunny:

Love it!


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Northerner]
    #23378760 - 06/24/16 09:13 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

ye bro. just enough water kefir juice to submerge all the mushrooms and you get a killer suspension.

be warned though that a mouthful is all it takes...

hehehe. to combat the sourness you may still add honey just before you drink it to get it on the sweeter side.

add lots of lemon too.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23378764 - 06/24/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

a sip is enough (maybe couple of mils) to stimulate a micro dose experience.

hehe enjoy.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23378928 - 06/24/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I've bookmarked this page, you just made a lot of people really happy man.

I'll come back and let you know how it goes. :sunny:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Northerner]
    #23379051 - 06/24/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ive already made lots and lots of people happy with this. Im sure you will too. :wink:)

thanks for the heads up.

at first I was very hesitant to do this cuz I was thinking psilocybin and psilocin would be broken down along with the process, now that we know they wont, theres a whole new frontier to explore! :smile:)

ready-to-drink-mushroom-softdrinks anyone? hahaha


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Edited by pablokabute (06/25/16 11:40 PM)


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23386856 - 06/27/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)



Panaeolous cyanescens fiesta!

2nd fermentation in a 1.5L jug...


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23387659 - 06/27/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'll be trying this. Have zero experience fermenting and no idea where to get kefir, but I'll do some more research.

Thanks for the post!!


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23388025 - 06/27/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Panaeolous cyanescens fiesta!

2nd fermentation in a 1.5L jug...



Hola! that's a shitload of pan cyans in there man. That stuff is going to be fire!

You did use dry shrooms though hey?


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Northerner]
    #23388298 - 06/27/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Tripping2Adventure]
    #23388395 - 06/27/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I'll be trying this. Have zero experience fermenting and no idea where to get kefir, but I'll do some more research.

Thanks for the post!!




i encourage you :smile:)
pls do.

find some live cultures group there in the US you might even get your tibicos grains for free.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Northerner]
    #23388401 - 06/27/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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Panaeolous cyanescens fiesta!

2nd fermentation in a 1.5L jug...



Hola! that's a shitload of pan cyans in there man. That stuff is going to be fire!

You did use dry shrooms though hey?





fresh from the fields. theyre still bubblin up as we speak. i think ill ferment these guys for maybe 2 days... :smile:)
I add lotsa calamondin juice in this one too.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23388464 - 06/27/16 05:36 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)



very active carbonation!!

i have to burp em this morning...

I suspect, the water kefir suspension also protects the magic from oxidation... when the liquid spills and dries, thats the only time the liquid becomes vibrant bluish...


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23388499 - 06/27/16 05:47 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Have you ever tested its shelf life?


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: healing] * 1
    #23388810 - 06/27/16 07:25 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What dose would you compare a swig to? Done it with cultivated cubes yet?


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #23390614 - 06/28/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: healing]
    #23392126 - 06/28/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Have you ever tested its shelf life?




ill keep some suspension to check for it. 2 weeks and no noticeable difference observed.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #23392148 - 06/28/16 08:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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What dose would you compare a swig to? Done it with cultivated cubes yet?




for this batch... maybe 1.5g for a swig.

yesterday I drank some... i was burping and the bottle spew some liquid... i feel tempted to drink it and the trip was really good. I saw in the woods what seems like little ethereal faeries, lots and lots sorta like a mirage... sometimes they transform to small fluttering butterflies then revert back to being tracers... lots and lots. the outdoors are very overwhelming yet very calming...


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23400780 - 07/01/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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a sip is enough (maybe couple of mils) to stimulate a micro dose experience.

hehe enjoy.



If you feel like it's an "experience" it's probably not a microdose. Microdosing is more like taking a daily multivitamin. Sure it's good for you, but you don't feel immediate effects.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23401846 - 07/01/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

pablokabute said:
a sip is enough (maybe couple of mils) to stimulate a micro dose experience.

hehe enjoy.



If you feel like it's an "experience" it's probably not a microdose. Microdosing is more like taking a daily multivitamin. Sure it's good for you, but you don't feel immediate effects.




A swig would hit more than a slight buzz..might not be 'microdose' but I like it at that dose.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute] * 1
    #23403081 - 07/02/16 04:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting, get back at us with the shelf life.

Also try to make a tek for newbs if this legitimately has long shelf life like dry mushrooms

Cus i don't even know wtf kefir water is, watching videos of it on Youtube as we speak .


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23403166 - 07/02/16 05:48 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Ive already made lots and lots of people happy with this. Im sure you will too. :wink:)

thanks for the heads up.

at first I was very hesitant to do this cuz I was thinking psilocybin and psilocin would be broken down along with the process, now that we know they wont, theres a whole new frontier to explore! :smile:)

ready-to-drink-mushroom-softdrinks anyone? hahaha





Why not just make tea and cool it down? Isnt it the same thing?

i dont know, im just not seeing what is so revolutionary about all this


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23403222 - 07/02/16 06:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Ive already made lots and lots of people happy with this. Im sure you will too. :wink:)

thanks for the heads up.

at first I was very hesitant to do this cuz I was thinking psilocybin and psilocin would be broken down along with the process, now that we know they wont, theres a whole new frontier to explore! :smile:)

ready-to-drink-mushroom-softdrinks anyone? hahaha





Why not just make tea and cool it down? Isnt it the same thing?

i dont know, im just not seeing what is so revolutionary about all this



fermented drinks are naturally carbonated. think kombucha.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Munchauzen]
    #23403613 - 07/02/16 09:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for clearing that up

Something tells me that cant taste very good at all


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    #23404511 - 07/02/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Actually after reading abit about this, they say it actually tastes super sweet, cus u can mix it with pomegranate (or any fruit) since its probiotic it will keep fermenting the sugars in that.

But if you keep it longer/the more sugar you put in it, the more alcoholic it will get.


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    #23405901 - 07/03/16 01:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

there some some sort of synergistic flow about it. and since its fermented, technically, its already spoiled so naturally, it also acts as a preservative. you wanna know why its revolutionary, you would have do the ferment and test the potency to understand.

whats good about it is that you dont have to make tea by heating, somehow making it a more efficient method of extracting... and since psilocin breaks down with heat, maybe there are more psilocin in there than whats available with traditional heating method.
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Ive already made lots and lots of people happy with this. Im sure you will too. :wink:)

thanks for the heads up.

at first I was very hesitant to do this cuz I was thinking psilocybin and psilocin would be broken down along with the process, now that we know they wont, theres a whole new frontier to explore! :smile:)

ready-to-drink-mushroom-softdrinks anyone? hahaha





Why not just make tea and cool it down? Isnt it the same thing?

i dont know, im just not seeing what is so revolutionary about all this




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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Teemo 6T3]
    #23405905 - 07/03/16 01:18 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Actually after reading abit about this, they say it actually tastes super sweet, cus u can mix it with pomegranate (or any fruit) since its probiotic it will keep fermenting the sugars in that.

But if you keep it longer/the more sugar you put in it, the more alcoholic it will get.




yea you can mix any fruit juice you want for the 2nd ferment (after draining the water kefir grains cuz some fruit juices might hurt the culture). citrus might extract the goodies better.

i use calamondin or lemon when available.

sweetness depends on how long you ferment.

the product i end up tastes closer to maybe watered down sweety apple cider vinegar... and the potency, as ive observed, is not hurt.


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    #23405910 - 07/03/16 01:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Interesting, get back at us with the shelf life.

Also try to make a tek for newbs if this legitimately has long shelf life like dry mushrooms

Cus i don't even know wtf kefir water is, watching videos of it on Youtube as we speak .




oh I will make a proper tek with lots of pics... wait for it. :smile:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23405922 - 07/03/16 01:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Thanks for clearing that up

Something tells me that cant taste very good at all




acquired taste.

i love plain water kefir.

some people find the smell a bit foul... well thats only because its... LIVE.

the taste depends on how mindful you are with fermenting... 1 day for the 2nd fermentation with the shrooms in it tastes more agreeable than longer fermentation times... the longer it sits, the more apple cider-y the taste would become. i have no problem downing huge amounts of it. no nausea too, probably because you filter the fibers out. together with the live probiotics are the magic compounds...

now for my next fermentation, im planning to ferment together with the shrooms, some MAOI plant matter, perhaps ground up syrian rue. that would totally kick ass.

and if the nausea is still there, why not ferment the shrooms together with ginger...

theres a whole new world to discover...

and to me, its pretty revolutionary...


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    #23405939 - 07/03/16 01:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Thanks for clearing that up

Something tells me that cant taste very good at all




acquired taste.

i love plain water kefir.

some people find the smell a bit foul... well thats only because its... LIVE.

the taste depends on how mindful you are with fermenting... 1 day for the 2nd fermentation with the shrooms in it tastes more agreeable than longer fermentation times... the longer it sits, the more apple cider-y the taste would become. i have no problem downing huge amounts of it. no nausea too, probably because you filter the fibers out. together with the live probiotics are the magic compounds...

now for my next fermentation, im planning to ferment together with the shrooms, some MAOI plant matter, perhaps ground up syrian rue. that would totally kick ass.

and if the nausea is still there, why not ferment the shrooms together with ginger...

theres a whole new world to discover...

and to me, its pretty revolutionary...




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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: openmindedcanvas]
    #23409263 - 07/04/16 04:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Wow I can't wait for the results.  A detailed tek with pics would be magnificent.  Excellent work.


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    #23409368 - 07/04/16 05:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Wow I can't wait for the results.  A detailed tek with pics would be magnificent.  Excellent work.





ya ill be working on it. im just a little lazy. hahaha. but ill definitely do it in the days to come. :smile:

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    #23409411 - 07/04/16 06:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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there some some sort of synergistic flow about it. and since its fermented, technically, its already spoiled so naturally, it also acts as a preservative. you wanna know why its revolutionary, you would have do the ferment and test the potency to understand.

whats good about it is that you dont have to make tea by heating, somehow making it a more efficient method of extracting... and since psilocin breaks down with heat, maybe there are more psilocin in there than whats available with traditional heating method.
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Ive already made lots and lots of people happy with this. Im sure you will too. :wink:)

thanks for the heads up.

at first I was very hesitant to do this cuz I was thinking psilocybin and psilocin would be broken down along with the process, now that we know they wont, theres a whole new frontier to explore! :smile:)

ready-to-drink-mushroom-softdrinks anyone? hahaha




Why not just make tea and cool it down? Isnt it the same thing?

i dont know, im just not seeing what is so revolutionary about all this







Making the tea is a lot quicker tho and since psilocin and psilocybin dont like light and oxygen its not necessarily more potent.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23409458 - 07/04/16 07:03 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

One reason why Im doing what Im doing...

...is that.. I spilled some fermented mushroom tea on a wooden table... its color is light brownish... after a while when I come back and it has dried out... it stained blue... I dont see that happening from heated tea.

which leads me to think... the magic is preserved and protected in the concoction. I dont have anything to verify this but its just my gut feel...

making the tea from fresh mushrooms is a lot quicker to do but when you dont see yourself partaking in a good while and wanna dry your mushrooms, which may take a while, why not just ferment the fresh mushrooms and store the liquid afterwards..


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    #23409483 - 07/04/16 07:15 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

In a feremented liquid youll probably see a lot more degradation than in a dry vaccum sealed bag. If its enough to noticably reduce  potency is another question.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23409528 - 07/04/16 07:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

OP why not blend up the mushrooms in some water before fermenting?

or just dice up the fresh mushrooms beforehand


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    #23409550 - 07/04/16 07:54 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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In a feremented liquid youll probably see a lot more degradation than in a dry vaccum sealed bag. If its enough to noticably reduce  potency is another question.




the longest sampled batch I took was around a month old and no noticeable potency loss. a buddy of mine has been making traditonal tea stored for up to a year with marked potency loss. not to mention the smell was horrible, smells like shit sludge. I think when its fermented, the actives are protected a tad bit more but thats just my 2 cents.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #23409556 - 07/04/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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OP why not blend up the mushrooms in some water before fermenting?

or just dice up the fresh mushrooms beforehand





I shred and clean em by hand thats why theyre on the coarse side.


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In a feremented liquid youll probably see a lot more degradation than in a dry vaccum sealed bag. If its enough to noticably reduce  potency is another question.




the longest sampled batch I took was around a month old and no noticeable potency loss. a buddy of mine has been making traditonal tea stored for up to a year with marked potency loss. not to mention the smell was horrible, smells like shit sludge. I think when its fermented, the actives are protected a tad bit more but thats just my 2 cents.




I wasnt talking about storing tea. I was talking about drying the mushrooms and than vaccum sealing them which should be superior for long term storage. If you store them in a fermented liquid parts of the actives will probably fall victim to oxidation which could be a problem if you plan on storing it for a year or longer


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23409590 - 07/04/16 08:19 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, a dehydrator and a foodsaver are a growers best friend


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    #23409597 - 07/04/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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One reason why Im doing what Im doing...

...is that.. I spilled some fermented mushroom tea on a wooden table... its color is light brownish... after a while when I come back and it has dried out... it stained blue... I dont see that happening from heated tea.

which leads me to think... the magic is preserved and protected in the concoction. I dont have anything to verify this but its just my gut feel...

making the tea from fresh mushrooms is a lot quicker to do but when you dont see yourself partaking in a good while and wanna dry your mushrooms, which may take a while, why not just ferment the fresh mushrooms and store the liquid afterwards..



Color change doesn't necessarily mean its potent.. itsw just an indiacation of oxidation of the active compounds.

Also when your making tea the potency is not affected, the temperature is not that high to fuck with the compounds, and also its in water, the information that your getting of the compounds being degraded is when its in crystallised form, and not in a liquid


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    #23409623 - 07/04/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Props to you on the recipe! Looks like an acquired taste tho but id be willing to try. Get a airlock if you ever get serious into fermentation. It is fascinating how long these drinks can last with the correct preservation techniques. Taking into account ph and acid level. YOur recipe could likely be pasuturized and still be highly potent.cheers


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    #23412236 - 07/04/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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One reason why Im doing what Im doing...

...is that.. I spilled some fermented mushroom tea on a wooden table... its color is light brownish... after a while when I come back and it has dried out... it stained blue... I dont see that happening from heated tea.

which leads me to think... the magic is preserved and protected in the concoction. I dont have anything to verify this but its just my gut feel...

making the tea from fresh mushrooms is a lot quicker to do but when you dont see yourself partaking in a good while and wanna dry your mushrooms, which may take a while, why not just ferment the fresh mushrooms and store the liquid afterwards..



Color change doesn't necessarily mean its potent.. itsw just an indiacation of oxidation of the active compounds.

Also when your making tea the potency is not affected, the temperature is not that high to fuck with the compounds, and also its in water, the information that your getting of the compounds being degraded is when its in crystallised form, and not in a liquid





yea but having to taste it firsthand, can I just say the potency was superb?

and by looking at the color of the tea... not having any hint of blue, then appears the stain after spilling some, can I say the actives are being protected from the liquid suspension from oxidation? no?


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    #23412247 - 07/04/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Props to you on the recipe! Looks like an acquired taste tho but id be willing to try. Get a airlock if you ever get serious into fermentation. It is fascinating how long these drinks can last with the correct preservation techniques. Taking into account ph and acid level. YOur recipe could likely be pasuturized and still be highly potent.cheers




thanks for the heads up.

airlocks are expensive af. might as well construct some from corks and sturdy hose. hehe.

yea if one pasteurizes the brew, you can be stuck at your 'desired' taste. becuz the longer this hangs out the more fermented the taste would become. even refrigerated... but I like the 'live' part so Id pass.

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    #23412270 - 07/04/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

also... if you have your shrooms in this fermented tea form, getting a sip every now and then for microdosing would be way convenient... and the onset is really fast too.

anyway, I just do this whenever I hunt for pan cyan, because drying them is a pain in the ass. not to mention when you dry em, they stain so much that I think most of the compounds get oxidized and gets lost.

Ive been drying before and side by side, fermenting them is just way convenient (dare I say more potent)... its like extraction in a way. after you hunt, you ferment em all. after a day or two, you filter out the solids, refrigerate the tea and youre done. thats the idea.


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One reason why Im doing what Im doing...

...is that.. I spilled some fermented mushroom tea on a wooden table... its color is light brownish... after a while when I come back and it has dried out... it stained blue... I dont see that happening from heated tea.

which leads me to think... the magic is preserved and protected in the concoction. I dont have anything to verify this but its just my gut feel...

making the tea from fresh mushrooms is a lot quicker to do but when you dont see yourself partaking in a good while and wanna dry your mushrooms, which may take a while, why not just ferment the fresh mushrooms and store the liquid afterwards..



Color change doesn't necessarily mean its potent.. itsw just an indiacation of oxidation of the active compounds.

Also when your making tea the potency is not affected, the temperature is not that high to fuck with the compounds, and also its in water, the information that your getting of the compounds being degraded is when its in crystallised form, and not in a liquid





yea but having to taste it firsthand, can I just say the potency was superb?

and by looking at the color of the tea... not having any hint of blue, then appears the stain after spilling some, can I say the actives are being protected from the liquid suspension from oxidation? no?




The liquid suspension is actually the problem why constant oxidation will occur and as its already been said color =/= potency.

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also... if you have your shrooms in this fermented tea form, getting a sip every now and then for microdosing would be way convenient... and the onset is really fast too.

anyway, I just do this whenever I hunt for pan cyan, because drying them is a pain in the ass. not to mention when you dry em, they stain so much that I think most of the compounds get oxidized and gets lost.

Ive been drying before and side by side, fermenting them is just way convenient (dare I say more potent)... its like extraction in a way. after you hunt, you ferment em all. after a day or two, you filter out the solids, refrigerate the tea and youre done. thats the idea.




Actually when you dry them theres going to be much less oxidation because it only takes a few hours. When theyre dry, vaccum sealed and in the freezer they should be good for years.

When you ferment them there will be constantly oxidation in the liquid


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Props to you on the recipe! Looks like an acquired taste tho but id be willing to try. Get a airlock if you ever get serious into fermentation. It is fascinating how long these drinks can last with the correct preservation techniques. Taking into account ph and acid level. YOur recipe could likely be pasuturized and still be highly potent.cheers




thanks for the heads up.

airlocks are expensive af. might as well construct some from corks and sturdy hose. hehe.

yea if one pasteurizes the brew, you can be stuck at your 'desired' taste. becuz the longer this hangs out the more fermented the taste would become. even refrigerated... but I like the 'live' part so Id pass.

do you brew anything?




Yea I do a little bit .Not fantastic at it but learning....beer wine.. etc THis idea is really great because the fermentation doesn't take that long vs a wine or beer fermentation that would take months.

Expensive? lol You can get like three for 6-7 bucks but like you said, you can construct one as well. I have larger 7-8 gallon stainless steel water jug I converted into a primary fermenter. I just tape an airlock on top. You just need the measurements of the opening on your jug to buy the correct bung. Airlocks are universal.

I can understand the "desired" taste thing completely. Just gotta be careful with closed lids and active fermentations. Bottles can go bang in the middle of the night.:lol:


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    #23412904 - 07/05/16 07:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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    #23419087 - 07/07/16 02:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

updated with the simple fermentation tek.


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    #23428752 - 07/10/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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    #23430217 - 07/10/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This is awesome. I drink water kefir daily and never even thought to give this a try. My next fresh run will defiantly try this out.


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    #23430282 - 07/10/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This is awesome. I drink water kefir daily and never even thought to give this a try. My next fresh run will defiantly try this out.





I have heard nothing but good things for my brew's recipients. A good estimate dose would be... fill your bottle with kefir and if half of the mushroom bits are submerged in water kefir, then youre assured to have a good strong brew. you can make it stronger but its really all up to you. 2nd ferment for 1-2days would be enough. you can take longer inside the fridge...

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Very excited to hear about this one thanks for passing it along! Big time kombucha fan here and you've just inspired some experimentation with probiotic psilocybin health tonics for microdosing. :grin:




Im surprised myself that the actives werent hurt by the fermentation process. So when I sampled some batches I made, I got really excited and told myself 'this is a good idea for the shroomery peeps to try out',

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    #23449153 - 07/17/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

:cheersyoufuck:


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    #23449271 - 07/17/16 09:29 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

This sounds very interesting, I want to try this!


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    #23451555 - 07/17/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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This sounds very interesting, I want to try this!




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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #23807834 - 11/06/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Hey guys I just found a way to recycle tons of my mushroom trimmings Ive been collecting all these years (all those myc and substrate I trim from the base of the stem of dried cubensis).


dried trimmings water kefir!




I shall sample some in a few days. I'm pretty excited.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #23807915 - 11/06/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Anyway, Id like to add that this mushroom kefir tea preserves well...

the oldest I tried was about 4months without much potency loss
.. refrigerated. 

If you leave it outside, the kefir SCOBY may die off...


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    #23808172 - 11/06/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I'm interested to see the comparison in potency between the two


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    #23808996 - 11/07/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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I'm interested to see the comparison in potency between the two




I stored the dried trimmings in an airtight plastic box...my collection for maybe 2years...  I dont know if they degraded or what but since its in the dried form, this new fermentation project might pack more punch than the fresh pan cyan kefir...

im doing a 2 day fermentation before i filter out and sample. :smile:


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    #23809054 - 11/07/16 09:35 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)



1-day fermentation...

this is a liter of bottle...


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    #23810887 - 11/07/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

That looks like it would taste terrifying:lol: are you gunna dose tmwr?


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    #23811178 - 11/07/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

Ill filter this good. settling the sediments and all... so I end with a clear drink...

Ill take a sip tomorrow to check the taste and potency.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #23812255 - 11/08/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

excellent!!!
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    #23812632 - 11/08/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

really sounds like a cool idea for reducing nausea if you have fresh shrooms and you don't want to consume them right away.
Testing new consumption methods, great stuff
I mean look at weed, they have a million ways, this is a cool thing,
my dad makes kombucha, I don't really like the taste but if it were mushroom infused I probably would


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    #23813767 - 11/08/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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excellent!!!
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    #23813786 - 11/08/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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really sounds like a cool idea for reducing nausea if you have fresh shrooms and you don't want to consume them right away.
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my dad makes kombucha, I don't really like the taste but if it were mushroom infused I probably would





if youd like to further reduce nausea, you may well add some freshly grated ginger in the brew as well. brewing is most especially helpful if you hunt for shrooms thats soaking wet, too stubborn to dry off completely.

Id like to brew some kombucha (havent tried it), but taking care of water kefir is quite a job already (you filter the grains and brew again every 2 days), you should try experimenting with kombucha, it should probably work. :smile:


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thanks for sharing brother i may try this someday on cube.. bookmarked!


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    #23925643 - 12/14/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Bruh you discovered your own way to make the fizz, the lucky few far in between who stumbled upon the shroom pro-biotic soda..

I try to tell people all the time they don't understand how fucking revolutionary this shit is..

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    #23927382 - 12/14/16 07:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Bruh you discovered your own way to make the fizz, the lucky few far in between who stumbled upon the shroom pro-biotic soda..

I try to tell people all the time they don't understand how fucking revolutionary this shit is..

I use ginger bug,, ! and it tastes a little better than sprite!





Ow maaaan.. that's heartwarming, you just made my day. Thanks for looking at it the same way as I do. :smile:

Ginger bug is great!! It should definitely address that nausea issue right in the head!! I don't know how much tyramine is in this probiotic drinks, or if it's something of concern, but it might also be interesting to add some MAO-I with the brewing, perhaps ground Syrian rue or heavily beat up caapi vine. Hehe


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    #23928358 - 12/15/16 04:34 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Depending on what is fermented the brew could contain a lot of tyramine but it should be fine as long as you keep the syrian rue/caapi dose on the lower side. Tyramine is only a big concern with irreversible and with unselective MAOIs. The harmala MAOI in syrian rue/caapi are both reversible and selective for MAO-A (at least in low to mid doses). This doesnt make them 100% safe and Serotonin syndrome can still occur but as long as you dont overdo it youll be fine.


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    #23941976 - 12/19/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Depending on what is fermented the brew could contain a lot of tyramine but it should be fine as long as you keep the syrian rue/caapi dose on the lower side. Tyramine is only a big concern with irreversible and with unselective MAOIs. The harmala MAOI in syrian rue/caapi are both reversible and selective for MAO-A (at least in low to mid doses). This doesnt make them 100% safe and Serotonin syndrome can still occur but as long as you dont overdo it youll be fine.




with this water kefir brew, its just unrefined sugar and some citrus...

I personally dont think it could generate that much tyramine to be of concern though. thanks for the info.


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    #23942073 - 12/19/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Look good OP great idea. Whilst I'm surprised it works I'm also not.  During the fermentation all available oxygen is being taken up by the yeast and bacteria coupled with the heavier than air co2 layer you basically have a great storage medium imo... Also post ferment you have a slight alcoholic content which is also a preservative.


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Will this work with dried mushrooms too?


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    #23945708 - 12/21/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Look good OP great idea. Whilst I'm surprised it works I'm also not.  During the fermentation all available oxygen is being taken up by the yeast and bacteria coupled with the heavier than air co2 layer you basically have a great storage medium imo... Also post ferment you have a slight alcoholic content which is also a preservative.





They store really good to confirm what you just said... it too has a slight alcoholic tart since I store em for a good long while, long enough to maybe convert that last bits of sugar to alcohol. you should try doing this, you seem to know a lot about brewing, do you brew anything right now? :smile:


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Will this work with dried mushrooms too?




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    #23946514 - 12/21/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The kefir fermentation also produces alcohol so I can guarantee its in there.
I work with wine but have mucked around with kombucha aswell.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pineninja]
    #23953178 - 12/24/16 12:59 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The kefir fermentation also produces alcohol so I can guarantee its in there.
I work with wine but have mucked around with kombucha aswell.




Occassionally, I add honey while refrigerated so the probiotics have something to eat too, raising their alcohol content even more I think...

id like to make some wine too, any personal tips? When I have my own vineyard!! xD


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23959540 - 12/26/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Actually after reading abit about this, they say it actually tastes super sweet, cus u can mix it with pomegranate (or any fruit) since its probiotic it will keep fermenting the sugars in that.

But if you keep it longer/the more sugar you put in it, the more alcoholic it will get.




yea you can mix any fruit juice you want for the 2nd ferment (after draining the water kefir grains cuz some fruit juices might hurt the culture). citrus might extract the goodies better.

i use calamondin or lemon when available.

sweetness depends on how long you ferment.

the product i end up tastes closer to maybe watered down sweety apple cider vinegar... and the potency, as ive observed, is not hurt.




Are you using calamondin or lemon in the first or second soak? Also are you freezing any liquid into cubes? Do you experience much nausea at all using this method?


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    #23959591 - 12/27/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Wowsers, thats some yummy sounding recipe good sir, will certainly give it a try, taaaa ! Being a sugar addict i might add some maple sirup to the mix,, yeeehaw !


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: PlantStudy]
    #23959673 - 12/27/16 02:10 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Actually after reading abit about this, they say it actually tastes super sweet, cus u can mix it with pomegranate (or any fruit) since its probiotic it will keep fermenting the sugars in that.

But if you keep it longer/the more sugar you put in it, the more alcoholic it will get.




yea you can mix any fruit juice you want for the 2nd ferment (after draining the water kefir grains cuz some fruit juices might hurt the culture). citrus might extract the goodies better.

i use calamondin or lemon when available.

sweetness depends on how long you ferment.

the product i end up tastes closer to maybe watered down sweety apple cider vinegar... and the potency, as ive observed, is not hurt.




Are you using calamondin or lemon in the first or second soak? Also are you freezing any liquid into cubes? Do you experience much nausea at all using this method?





You filter the tibicos grains out then proceed with the 2nd fermentation(you may say 2nd soak) with whatever fruit juice together with the shrooms, I prefer calamondin because it never goes out of season here... Theyre good without freezing, chilled in the fridge would suffice... Not much nausea personally, I have a tough stomach though so that might be another variable.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: ozzinated]
    #23959679 - 12/27/16 02:13 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Wowsers, thats some yummy sounding recipe good sir, will certainly give it a try, taaaa ! Being a sugar addict i might add some maple sirup to the mix,, yeeehaw !





Just make sure you add the maple syrup for the 2nd ferment, the time you add the shrooms in.. so the tibicos grains wont get hurt... I find honey ferments have this interesting taste to it that cane sugar doesnt have. Try it. :wink:


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    #23959751 - 12/27/16 03:30 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I would love to try this.


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    #23959774 - 12/27/16 04:21 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I would love to try this.





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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23959928 - 12/27/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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pablokabute said:
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Actually after reading abit about this, they say it actually tastes super sweet, cus u can mix it with pomegranate (or any fruit) since its probiotic it will keep fermenting the sugars in that.

But if you keep it longer/the more sugar you put in it, the more alcoholic it will get.




yea you can mix any fruit juice you want for the 2nd ferment (after draining the water kefir grains cuz some fruit juices might hurt the culture). citrus might extract the goodies better.

i use calamondin or lemon when available.

sweetness depends on how long you ferment.

the product i end up tastes closer to maybe watered down sweety apple cider vinegar... and the potency, as ive observed, is not hurt.




Are you using calamondin or lemon in the first or second soak? Also are you freezing any liquid into cubes? Do you experience much nausea at all using this method?





You filter the tibicos grains out then proceed with the 2nd fermentation(you may say 2nd soak) with whatever fruit juice together with the shrooms, I prefer calamondin because it never goes out of season here... Theyre good without freezing, chilled in the fridge would suffice... Not much nausea personally, I have a tough stomach though so that might be another variable.




What exactly goes in the first batch other than the  tibicos grains?

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23960578 - 12/27/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I would love to try this.





You should and post back! Thanks for reading. :wink:



I make my own kombucha, but my scobys are kinda just sitting around. I'll dedicate a batch and make some fizz!


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: PlantStudy]
    #23961261 - 12/27/16 07:40 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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What exactly goes in the first batch other than the  tibicos grains?

thanks





just plain water (not chlorinated, spring water works best) and unrefined sugar (maybe sucanat), if not available, you can use refined sugar + a teaspoon of blackstrap molasses per liter... this suspension should ferment for 2-3 days depending on the ambient temperature.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: GRAVE]
    #23961283 - 12/27/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I would love to try this.





You should and post back! Thanks for reading. :wink:



I make my own kombucha, but my scobys are kinda just sitting around. I'll dedicate a batch and make some fizz!





I dont have a kombucha scoby, I only keep tibicos grains for convenience's sake. you should definitely do a kombucha ferment and see how it goes. :wink:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #23961289 - 12/27/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The kefir fermentation also produces alcohol so I can guarantee its in there.
I work with wine but have mucked around with kombucha aswell.




Occassionally, I add honey while refrigerated so the probiotics have something to eat too, raising their alcohol content even more I think...

id like to make some wine too, any personal tips? When I have my own vineyard!! xD



Better the fruit better the wine, so start with that.:thumbup:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #23961548 - 12/27/16 11:04 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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I would love to try this.





You should and post back! Thanks for reading. :wink:



I make my own kombucha, but my scobys are kinda just sitting around. I'll dedicate a batch and make some fizz!





I dont have a kombucha scoby, I only keep tibicos grains for convenience's sake. you should definitely do a kombucha ferment and see how it goes. :wink:




I have never used  tibicos grains b4, do they dissolve completely and if not can you reuse them?


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: PlantStudy]
    #23961585 - 12/27/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Oh no. They dont dissolve. They multiply and they can virtually live FOREVER with lots of care. I constantly give them away. That pic in the original post of my grains is around 2 years old now. I only keep around 2 tablespoon at a time. Any excess are given away...

They multiply faster when you ferment for only 2 days or less for the 1st fermentation, you replenish the sugar water solution and so on... My specific culture ferment fast but dont multiply easily, because of too much strain I put up with them before, I used to leave them for 2 weeks for a couple of cycles... I like it that way though, I wont have much use for too much grains anyway.. as long as they can ferment and look healthy, Im ok with it.


The longer you ferment, you run the risk of starving the grains, they weaken and thats the time they dissolve. If you can find the right groups online, they share tibicos grains - you only pay for postage.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pineninja]
    #23964460 - 12/29/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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The kefir fermentation also produces alcohol so I can guarantee its in there.
I work with wine but have mucked around with kombucha aswell.




Occassionally, I add honey while refrigerated so the probiotics have something to eat too, raising their alcohol content even more I think...

id like to make some wine too, any personal tips? When I have my own vineyard!! xD



Better the fruit better the wine, so start with that.:thumbup:




A buddy of mine gave me this wine yeast from canada... its called LALVIN , Saccharomyces cerevisiae... is there a way to extend the life or maybe culture my own yeast from this one packet I have...? xD


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    #23978222 - 01/03/17 09:21 AM (7 years, 25 days ago)



Here's a finished product... All fizzed up!


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    #23978831 - 01/03/17 01:18 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

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    #23980014 - 01/03/17 09:00 PM (7 years, 25 days ago)

So delish! XD


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #24218758 - 04/04/17 07:00 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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The kefir fermentation also produces alcohol so I can guarantee its in there.
I work with wine but have mucked around with kombucha aswell.




Occassionally, I add honey while refrigerated so the probiotics have something to eat too, raising their alcohol content even more I think...

id like to make some wine too, any personal tips? When I have my own vineyard!! xD



Better the fruit better the wine, so start with that.:thumbup:




A buddy of mine gave me this wine yeast from canada... its called LALVIN , Saccharomyces cerevisiae... is there a way to extend the life or maybe culture my own yeast from this one packet I have...? xD



I've at least read about people doing this with purchased cheese cultures, you should be able to grow any live culture out if done right. Just gotta do a little sterile procedure or something of the like.

If I understand your tek correctly I can do this with any alcoholic brewing project? Odd that spore germination/attached bacteria don't mess up the brew?


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #24219440 - 04/05/17 02:12 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

You can keep a wine yeast culture going for as long as you would want i imagine though the effort involved would make it only really suitable to a specific purpose.
Most wineries here will use the yeast on a needs basis, mostly from freeze dried stock but I do know of a few that keep a culture through vintage feeding it with fresh juice.


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    #24496275 - 07/20/17 12:34 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

up for new readers.. :smile:


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    #25132463 - 04/12/18 05:25 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

New reader here, I love the idea, and my GF really loves making waterkefir. I really love drinking it :lol:

I don't do shrooms that often anymore, but do find it a highly interesting ROA, with all the probiotic goodness in there.

Since I only trip about once a year, if I'd be doing this, I'd be pasteurizing, even though live tastes SOOOO much better (regular live waterkefir vs pasteurized I mean).


I do have a couple questions, pertaining more to the kefir culture.

In light of  the previous questions about yeast, can you also plate out kefir on agar?

Last time we had tibicos grains (this time around we have some sort of liquid form of kefir apparently?!?) they started going a bit brownish after a while (they started out whitish), and the taste was also growing worse and worse every time, so we eventually got rid of the culture. Is it necessary/possible/recommended/beneficial to grow the culture out in the fridge in sterilized liquids if you want to keep it healthy for years? I mean alongside the normal fermenting of sugarwaters, as a starter, so not to drink it.


The liquid form my GF has now could apparently also be transferred to new bottles of sugarwater, to ferment the next batch. Any idea on how long this can go on in "kitchen area cleanliness" without getting unwanted shit in there?

And finally, do you happen to know if I can grow tibicos grains from the liquid form?

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    #25133055 - 04/12/18 11:49 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

Nice tek!


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    #25134534 - 04/13/18 12:12 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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New reader here, I love the idea, and my GF really loves making waterkefir. I really love drinking it :lol:

I don't do shrooms that often anymore, but do find it a highly interesting ROA, with all the probiotic goodness in there.

Since I only trip about once a year, if I'd be doing this, I'd be pasteurizing, even though live tastes SOOOO much better (regular live waterkefir vs pasteurized I mean).


I do have a couple questions, pertaining more to the kefir culture.

In light of  the previous questions about yeast, can you also plate out kefir on agar?

Last time we had tibicos grains (this time around we have some sort of liquid form of kefir apparently?!?) they started going a bit brownish after a while (they started out whitish), and the taste was also growing worse and worse every time, so we eventually got rid of the culture. Is it necessary/possible/recommended/beneficial to grow the culture out in the fridge in sterilized liquids if you want to keep it healthy for years? I mean alongside the normal fermenting of sugarwaters, as a starter, so not to drink it.


The liquid form my GF has now could apparently also be transferred to new bottles of sugarwater, to ferment the next batch. Any idea on how long this can go on in "kitchen area cleanliness" without getting unwanted shit in there?

And finally, do you happen to know if I can grow tibicos grains from the liquid form?

Thanks for this write up!





you know.. I was thinking the same thing about plating water kefir but havent really tried doing it...

maybe this year.. :smile:


my culture included in the pic, I think is not that healthy or robust but theyre very much alive and fizzing so it doesnt matter for me.. Ive seen fat grains before, they behave like that way before.. you just have to culture every 2 days.. sometimes I forget mine so they go for 4 or over 4 days so they crumble, I think it just means more surface area... you just use purified or filtered water.. best would be spring water.. they dont like alkaline and distilled water.  ive been keeping the same culture for over 2 yrs.. when they multiply, I just give all the surplus grains away...


water kefir grains are immortal.. they could go oni with their lives indefinitely.

from what ive heard, you cant grow tibicoa grains in liquid form... but maybe if you got tiny crystalline grains in the liquid, maybe theu can grow out as big tibicos grains..


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    #25134628 - 04/13/18 01:24 AM (5 years, 9 months ago)

They might be immortal, but they are also susceptible to other organisms, meaning if you don't watch it, eventually you'll culture out some nasty stuff in your "healthy" lemonade. I've tasted it going increasingly worse every batch. I think I first noticed it about 10 batches before we chugged it. But then it was only very faint. By the time we threw it out, we sipped a fresh glass, looked at each other, and were like "No... that's going out."


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: LizardWizard]
    #25139778 - 04/14/18 09:55 PM (5 years, 9 months ago)

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They might be immortal, but they are also susceptible to other organisms, meaning if you don't watch it, eventually you'll culture out some nasty stuff in your "healthy" lemonade. I've tasted it going increasingly worse every batch. I think I first noticed it about 10 batches before we chugged it. But then it was only very faint. By the time we threw it out, we sipped a fresh glass, looked at each other, and were like "No... that's going out."





from what i heard, grains can be recovered... you just have to follow strict guidelines like never going more than 2 days fermenting, taking note of the water source and how they react to it, adding a pinch of sodium bicarb or natural sea salt, using least processed sugar like muscovado sugar..


I have a very severe acid reflux and hyperacidity, its the WORST, and I cured myself using water kefir. .


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #25543693 - 10/17/18 04:20 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #25583300 - 11/01/18 03:27 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Great tek! I did something similar with fly agaric and apples, to make fly agaric and apple cider vinegar. I used wild yeasts collected from the air (just leave apple peel out on a plate for a couple of weeks). It eventually becomes vinegar, so you don't have to store it in the fridge.

I just microdose it and it makes you feel so alive.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: crowseed]
    #25583346 - 11/01/18 04:41 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Great tek! I did something similar with fly agaric and apples, to make fly agaric and apple cider vinegar. I used wild yeasts collected from the air (just leave apple peel out on a plate for a couple of weeks). It eventually becomes vinegar, so you don't have to store it in the fridge.

I just microdose it and it makes you feel so alive.





I would love to take a sip from that please young sir hehehe

i love cider vinegars as it is.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: crowseed]
    #25608113 - 11/11/18 09:43 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Great tek! I did something similar with fly agaric and apples, to make fly agaric and apple cider vinegar. I used wild yeasts collected from the air (just leave apple peel out on a plate for a couple of weeks). It eventually becomes vinegar, so you don't have to store it in the fridge.

I just microdose it and it makes you feel so alive.



hate to post just to nitpick, but aren't their wild yeasts found in the apples/peels themselves? When I made cider/plum wine this way I didn't need to let it sit out for a couple weeks, seems like that'd just risk introducing contaminants. Although, vinegar seems pretty foolproof when you leave applestuff open, I've found forgotten apple products that should've spoiled/rotted before but they just became vinegar. But still, perhaps a less pure vinegar than if you sealed off the apple peels in a vessel. anyways, i'm just bored

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25608151 - 11/11/18 10:04 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Wild yeasts are everywhere and abundant.
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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25608418 - 11/12/18 03:07 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Great tek! I did something similar with fly agaric and apples, to make fly agaric and apple cider vinegar. I used wild yeasts collected from the air (just leave apple peel out on a plate for a couple of weeks). It eventually becomes vinegar, so you don't have to store it in the fridge.

I just microdose it and it makes you feel so alive.



hate to post just to nitpick, but aren't their wild yeasts found in the apples/peels themselves? When I made cider/plum wine this way I didn't need to let it sit out for a couple weeks, seems like that'd just risk introducing contaminants. Although, vinegar seems pretty foolproof when you leave applestuff open, I've found forgotten apple products that should've spoiled/rotted before but they just became vinegar. But still, perhaps a less pure vinegar than if you sealed off the apple peels in a vessel. anyways, i'm just bored

I post in the name of learning, not nitpicking, I swear..




Yes everything will have wild yeasts on the outside of them as they're in the air everywhere. If you're using the skin and haven't washed the apple then no need to leave the apple out to get exposure to them. If you've bought them in packaging from a supermarket, it's probably worth it. Sometimes I get no fermentation and just get apple juice.

Once you've got the culture going, you can just transfer a bit of the liquid to the next bottle/jar.

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: crowseed]
    #25610026 - 11/12/18 04:50 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

, gotta respect the fizz! 4 the fizz! Is sacred, the fizz! Has healing attributes, the fizz! Is a form a communication.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Deemstar]
    #25612872 - 11/13/18 07:27 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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, gotta respect the fizz! 4 the fizz! Is sacred, the fizz! Has healing attributes, the fizz! Is a form a communication.





magicshroom soda man, gotta love the fizz hahaha


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #25624751 - 11/19/18 08:07 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

This is so cool.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Philo DuFresne]
    #25625775 - 11/19/18 04:44 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: RalphieRamone]
    #25686709 - 12/18/18 03:41 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

This is a neat tek. Thanks for sharing


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #25707211 - 12/28/18 07:17 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Champloo]
    #25722428 - 01/04/19 08:46 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

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This is a neat tek. Thanks for sharing



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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26092915 - 07/06/19 10:14 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't done mushroom water kefir, but I've done a LOT of milk kefir, water kefir, and kombucha.

I used to do a secondary ferment with sugar and jamaica (hibiscus flowers) and the carbonation was insane. As in, "painted the ceiling pink insane" when I opened one without slowly bleeding it first. BTW, those hibiscus flowers really stain.

So I just want to warn anyone new to fermenting kefir, if you end up bottling or otherwise sealing a water kefir ferment, you MUST use good strong bottles intended for carbonated beverages. I use flip-top lever bottles from the brewing store, or some fancy beer brands come in them and you can save them.

The decorative ones you can find at kitchen stores (for making decorative bottles of preserved oranges, etc like you see in Italian restaurants) are much thinner glass and are NOT safe. They'll go off like bombs.

I didn't know this, and I was fortunate that when I opened one, it was pointed away from me, because the bottle literally broke at the neck, and the neck and lid went... somewhere. I never found it; I was outside at the time.

I still sweat thinking about that because I was effectively holding a glass hand grenade. I was dumb and just got super-lucky. So yeah, keep it cracked to bleed off the pressure, or use real brewing bottles.

FWIW, I don't do water kefir anymore because it became a headache trigger, but kombucha seems to be fine (also doesn't produce bombs!) so I may try this technique with kombucha sometime.

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: FiddyYearsDark]
    #26092984 - 07/06/19 11:07 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

great safety tips.

headache trigger? I wonder why is that?

anyway, more and more, Im more inclined to think im more of a kombucha guy(havent had any cultures to play with yet), as opposed to water kefir. doing it every 2 days i think isnt for me. with kombucha you can, like, do the rounds every couple of weeks, right?... milk kefir is even more painful to replenish the milk in the culture so no thank you. hahahaha


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26093344 - 07/06/19 03:08 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Tyramines causing headaches? Maybe?

I inherited migraines, so pretty much a stiff breeze will give me a headache. Anything, really.

It's like being a 16-year-old boy with erections, only with headaches, not boners. They just show up randomly, any old time, and I'm lucky when I can identify a trigger.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26206507 - 09/24/19 12:51 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

followed link in your sig to find this gem!

wow, I love kombucha and kefir, actually many fermented drinks and foods!

almost couldn't read whole thread before running to grab the Art of Fermentation by Sandor Katz, dusting it off now and getting excited about this lol. 

New to forums and have yet to start first grow, planned first harvest around new year- regardless this has opened many a door for us, thank you, sir, for posting this up and keeping it visible!

haha, love this!  :mushroomtwirl:  :gay:  :dancer:  :irishtoast:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TeaforTwo] * 1
    #26212211 - 09/26/19 08:30 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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followed link in your sig to find this gem!

wow, I love kombucha and kefir, actually many fermented drinks and foods!

almost couldn't read whole thread before running to grab the Art of Fermentation by Sandor Katz, dusting it off now and getting excited about this lol. 

New to forums and have yet to start first grow, planned first harvest around new year- regardless this has opened many a door for us, thank you, sir, for posting this up and keeping it visible!

haha, love this!  :mushroomtwirl:  :gay:  :dancer:  :irishtoast:





just make sure you freeze or refrigerate after your 2nd fermentation, else, your solution would turn to vinegar hahaha heating it a bit might also stop the continuous fermentation..

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26212481 - 09/27/19 12:25 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Cool recipe!  I haven't had kefir in ages, but I'll be keeping this in mind for down the road!


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: teonanacatl83]
    #26215174 - 09/28/19 04:25 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: mi.ro.ku]
    #26215309 - 09/28/19 06:56 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

no prob. thanks for reading. I hope all o' you guys can do this and report back :P peeeace


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26228486 - 10/03/19 09:32 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

great idea! :congrats:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: Primal Glitch]
    #26229016 - 10/04/19 07:29 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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great idea! :congrats:




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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: Primal Glitch]
    #26229405 - 10/04/19 11:27 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Hi. Thanks for writing this tek.

Will there be much loss by doing this or will the fermentation process pull out all the good stuff from the shrooms?

ex. If i put 10 gram in 1 liter, will it be about 1 gram equivalent for each 1 deciliter?


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: Coffeeholic]
    #26230281 - 10/04/19 06:49 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

it is in my understanding that the actives in the mushrooms are very water soluble so there might not be so much loss after all..


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26247050 - 10/12/19 10:19 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

So glad to have stumbled on this! Been making kefir and kombucha for years and years. What a great idea to add a little flavor lol. Have you tried the kombucha with mushies yet? Once my fruits are ready ill try a batch of both and was even thinking of trying dried shrooms and percolate them to extract the components of the menstruum then adding results to the batch and let ferment with the rest.
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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TheSofaKing]
    #26247595 - 10/12/19 02:30 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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So glad to have stumbled on this! Been making kefir and kombucha for years and years. What a great idea to add a little flavor lol. Have you tried the kombucha with mushies yet? Once my fruits are ready ill try a batch of both and was even thinking of trying dried shrooms and percolate them to extract the components of the menstruum then adding results to the batch and let ferment with the rest.
But anyways great write up can't wait to try this/ these





I would love to see a write up on some kombucha or hear from anyone who as tried it. I found one person on the shrooms subreddit that said they successfully made some shroom booch.  They just made some tea and mixed it in before the second fermentation. I also think some cold water extract mixed with enough kombucha would be virtually undetectable.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TheSofaKing]
    #26249424 - 10/13/19 10:06 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Was also looking around the lines of making a mushroom mead lol.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TheSofaKing]
    #26250444 - 10/13/19 06:58 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

:irishtoast: move to Denver and patent that chit and open a local pub business!  :rockon:

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TheSofaKing] * 1
    #26251198 - 10/14/19 07:06 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Got lots of family in the Denver area. Have been supplying steamboat springs, Hayden and Craig's local farmers markets with pearl oysters and a few veggies with a handful of other goods. Would love to be involved with the magic research that's been passed in Denver but I feel its a matter of time before the allow it everywhere. The times they are a changing


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TheSofaKing]
    #26255282 - 10/16/19 02:48 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

sabotage the kombucha and kefir crowd via micro dosing xD


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    #26256684 - 10/16/19 05:55 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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sabotage the kombucha and kefir crowd via micro dosing xD



  Lol have made some capsules awhile back and using one everyother day its been nice atmosphere just need something to wash them down with haha


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TheSofaKing]
    #26257191 - 10/16/19 10:24 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

been microdosing every other day or longer, maybe once every 3-4 days @200mg powdered shrooms and then capsulated.. :smile:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26257883 - 10/17/19 08:17 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Do you feel a difference? Or benefits from it? I know it has helped me and opened opportunities that I don't feel would have happened otherwise. Maybe it's just me. Lol


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TheSofaKing]
    #26258135 - 10/17/19 10:12 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

i get things done and better. i get more focused and have better insights. mind is calmer. could be placebo but whatever works works. :wink:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26258522 - 10/17/19 12:55 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Haha mos def. I got 5 kids and they all seem to speak a different energy lol

Here's my current kabooch lol



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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TheSofaKing]
    #26258600 - 10/17/19 01:22 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

i will definitely discontinue doing water kefir. it doesnt suit me anymore. repleneshing sugarwater every 2-3 days is a PITA. I will get ahold of some kombucha scoby soon. I already have the glass jar for it :smile:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26258659 - 10/17/19 01:43 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I got kefir in milk and grape juice just not water lol ya the booch is a lil easier. Sometimes forget about it though lmao


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TheSofaKing]
    #26259634 - 10/17/19 08:40 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Sometimes forget about it though lmao





thats what I want hahaha, repleneshing every 2 just aint for me anymore right now... hopefully I get my booch before the year ends, how long do you normally do a batch of your booch? thanks.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26260346 - 10/18/19 08:45 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Sometimes forget about it though lmao





thats what I want hahaha, repleneshing every 2 just aint for me anymore right now... hopefully I get my booch before the year ends, how long do you normally do a batch of your booch? thanks.




Done a few experiments . no think its ready at the 14 day mark but I normally go around the 40 day mark but have had good results with longer just have to add some sugar to it every so often, normally when the Scoby starts to turn white. If u don't add the sugar it'll  end up a vinegar. Still useful but not when not desired lol.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TheSofaKing] * 1
    #26289104 - 10/31/19 06:24 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

goodnews, I just adopted my first booch scoby.

will report back to this thread once I made the infusion :wink:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26289232 - 10/31/19 07:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Congrats man , new experiments are exciting! Enjoy


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TheSofaKing]
    #26289283 - 10/31/19 08:10 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Congrats man , new experiments are exciting! Enjoy



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Congrats man , new experiments are exciting! Enjoy





here in the Philippines, most commercial growers follow a 3-week substrate composting/fermentation cycle prior to bagging and spawning of oyster mushrooms. They swear it ups their yield.. I was thinking of inoculating the substrate with kombucha juice instead of sugar, do you think that would work though? ideas? hehehe


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute] * 1
    #26309628 - 11/09/19 03:46 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Got my kombucha going again. For a new scoby I just bought a bottle of unpasteurized buch from the Whole Wallet and added it to the 2 qts tea/sugar. The first time it took about 1.5 weeks to form a thin skin on top. Threw out that batch except for the skin and did it again. That time the skin thickened to a proper scoby and now it's cooking along really strong.

I took one bottle, stuffed a lot of dried shrooms into it. Its been in the fridge for a couple of weeks. Just now drank about 4 oz of it. The shroom bits had turned blue-black, not surprising considering the acidity. The buch had a definite mushroomy taste.

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: FiddyYearsDark]
    #26309800 - 11/09/19 05:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Hoo boy. Yeah. That works. Difficult to type. After an hour I just had that hyper real sensation, but now everything is wooooooo


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    #26311016 - 11/10/19 05:37 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

lol! very cool :dancer:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TeaforTwo]
    #26318950 - 11/14/19 01:46 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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    #26319223 - 11/14/19 07:36 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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you could make a some good coin off this shit at music festivals




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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: basilic85]
    #26686341 - 05/21/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Up we go. For other people to see


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26699247 - 05/27/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Just posting to keep this around for when my harvest comes in. Love kefir, love the idea of preserving fresh product this way. Can't wait to try it! Pablo, do you have any suggestions as far as quantities for doing this with cubensis? I wonder if the probiotic bacteria help with nausea too.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: General_Interest]
    #26708328 - 05/31/20 01:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Just posting to keep this around for when my harvest comes in. Love kefir, love the idea of preserving fresh product this way. Can't wait to try it! Pablo, do you have any suggestions as far as quantities for doing this with cubensis? I wonder if the probiotic bacteria help with nausea too.





As far as quantities go, you can try, maybe 100 fresh gs to 375ml of water kefir juice.. so thats a 100g fresh to a bottle of wine.

I have an acid reflux disorder and water kefir helped me combat it(but now I medicate with turmeric tea) so I would say yes, it helps with nausea and hyperacidity as well.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26759281 - 06/20/20 07:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quality idea, will be trying this one. :takingnotes:


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    #26820480 - 07/13/20 05:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I was making kefir back in a day but it never came to my head to ferment some mush.
I have started making kombucha, gonna try it out with some :mushroom: soon
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    #26821823 - 07/13/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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I was making kefir back in a day but it never came to my head to ferment some mush.
I have started making kombucha, gonna try it out with some :mushroom: soon
genius idea man. :spliff:





Haven't tried it with kombucha tea yet but it should work imo.


I tried it with water kefir ganoderma, now  thats a very undesirable taste. Like, you have to force-drink it because you know it has medicinal qualities. Like the bitterness somehow amplified and took on new tastes on the bitterness 'spectrum'. Id drink some if I have some. Cant say no to that.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26822039 - 07/13/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I own a kombucha brewery and can't wait to experiment with this..As far as shelf life goes our product has a 9 month shelf life but technically it never goes bad, ages much like wine does but needs to keep refrigerated. 9 months was a random date the Dept of Ag and myself agreed on since we never have product on the shelf that long.


Also, your friend storing tea at room temp...that scares me. If it is just brewed with water, no fermentation, I'd be willing to bet it has harmful bacteria growing in it after a week due to the pH.


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    #26822288 - 07/14/20 03:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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I own a kombucha brewery and can't wait to experiment with this..As far as shelf life goes our product has a 9 month shelf life but technically it never goes bad, ages much like wine does but needs to keep refrigerated. 9 months was a random date the Dept of Ag and myself agreed on since we never have product on the shelf that long.


Also, your friend storing tea at room temp...that scares me. If it is just brewed with water, no fermentation, I'd be willing to bet it has harmful bacteria growing in it after a week due to the pH.





Wow. How does your kombucha brewery pay off? Is it any good?

Yea man. My friend who stores his at room temp dont know shit about spoilage and shit. I remember seeing some of his work form some type of crust on top, he just shakes it off to break the crust and shit.


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    #26822289 - 07/14/20 03:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Quality idea, will be trying this one. :takingnotes:




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I was making kefir back in a day but it never came to my head to ferment some mush.
I have started making kombucha, gonna try it out with some :mushroom: soon
genius idea man. :spliff:





Haven't tried it with kombucha tea yet but it should work imo.


I tried it with water kefir ganoderma, now  thats a very undesirable taste. Like, you have to force-drink it because you know it has medicinal qualities. Like the bitterness somehow amplified and took on new tastes on the bitterness 'spectrum'. Id drink some if I have some. Cant say no to that.





Taste gets boosted what ever you put in it on second ferment no doubt, with medicinals idk if its possible to make it taste better, maybe adding some sugars and let it steep in the fridge for a couple of weeks.

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I own a kombucha brewery and can't wait to experiment with this..As far as shelf life goes our product has a 9 month shelf life but technically it never goes bad, ages much like wine does but needs to keep refrigerate.




yeah it so much better when its aged, the carbonation is unbelievably smooth and leveled out.
I am thinking to start running bigger scale myself with this brew.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #27306761 - 05/13/21 08:20 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Nice TEK Pablokabute!!!

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I have some buch to bottle today. I'll try tossing some in one bottle for the 2nd fermentation, and will report back!


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    #27307203 - 05/13/21 03:39 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Following to see how your kombucha experiment goes. Wonder if lacto-fermented shrooms would be any good or just totally revolting haha


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    #27309054 - 05/14/21 09:24 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Not a naysayer, or a know it all. Actually, just the opposite. I don't know what Keefer is. Is it like something related to yogurt. Iv made yogurt, win, sour krout, vinegar, cheese, and miso.

My understanding is that unless you ferment something for a couple months, until the alcohol or vinegar, or whatever applies.....the rotten bacteria will make you sick. So are you using the right word, when you say "ferment"? Or is it more of an extraction, using something (Keefer) that is already fermented.

Also, I Know how to make tij. Or however its spelled. And that is an exception. It's Honey and water. But before it turns into wine, it literally turns into mountain dew soda, and has such low alcohol content, that you can even give it to kids. Now that might be a hit at the next festival.....if you used shrooms honey to make it.


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    #27309094 - 05/14/21 09:59 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

kefir is a culture you use to ferment things, similar to a scoby. I'm pretty sure that properly fermenting food is safe to eat at all stages. fermentation doesn't remove toxins released by harmful bacteria, which would still make you sick.


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    #27309099 - 05/14/21 10:11 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

So I guess that's the confusion.

He said the first ferment takes a couple days, and the second takes a couple days.

Nothing I've ever heard of can ferment in a couple days.

So it's an extraction, using something that is already fermented?

Like putting a hotdog in vinegar.

The vinegar took two months to ferment.

The hotdog just got stuck in it to be pickled.


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    #27309130 - 05/14/21 10:58 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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So I guess that's the confusion.

He said the first ferment takes a couple days, and the second takes a couple days.

Nothing I've ever heard of can ferment in a couple days.

So it's an extraction, using something that is already fermented?

Like putting a hotdog in vinegar.

The vinegar took two months to ferment.

The hotdog just got stuck in it to be pickled.






Unsure where to put it(i dont wanna dry em) so I made this heatless cold EXTRACTION by fermenting the mushrooms.





Research water kefir, they normally take 1-3 days to ferment your unrefined sugar to some 10s of symbiotic culture of yeasts and bacteria suspended in water. Water kefir has a higher population of different species than kombucha.

Will post back in a month or two about the kombucha experiment. I will post again. Thanks for dropping by folks


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: Sub-Easy]
    #27309154 - 05/14/21 11:39 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

my kombucha ferments in a few days. maybe do some more research :shrug:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: Munchauzen]
    #27309537 - 05/15/21 08:38 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

If I understand this right then the probiotic bacteria prevent any bad bacteria or molds etc. to come in but that does not solve the problem of psilocybin shelve life. For this you would need refrigeration or freezing at some point. What makes this so great?
I could drink a regular dried mushroom tea and chase it with komboucha and that may be very similar.


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    #27309925 - 05/15/21 02:41 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, so like a dog with a bone, I looked into it.

My yogurt was made in fridge, but yogurt and kifer can be made in a day or two in the right condition. I guess the lactose sugar is broken down fast by the little guys.

Also kombucha, in theory can be made in a week.

Also (mountain dew flavord) or young tij, like I was saying, in about a week, if I remember correctly.

But that's it.

Kombucha really takes two and a half weeks, up to five months. From start to finish.

Admittedly, he did say extraction. Just the wording was confusing.

It's not a big point, but in order to understand what a person is making, it's good to understand what is being made.

Regardless, all of these methods sound great.

Anything can be fermented to an edible point. Even cow manure can be made into wine, and meat into something like cheese. So I wonder if you can't just ferment the mushrooms by themselves in some way. Wine maybe, if you can find something to convert the protein into sugar. One ferment proses I've tried is to bury acorns by a river for a year. They turn into candy. Old Indian trick.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: LittleBoard]
    #27310086 - 05/15/21 04:48 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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If I understand this right then the probiotic bacteria prevent any bad bacteria or molds etc. to come in but that does not solve the problem of psilocybin shelve life. For this you would need refrigeration or freezing at some point. What makes this so great?
I could drink a regular dried mushroom tea and chase it with komboucha and that may be very similar.





These store well, if I remember correctly, up to 2-3 months, refrigerated(but thats only because they ran out around that time).

I did this for novelty. You can drink your tea and chase with kombucha if you want to.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #27777956 - 05/15/22 09:24 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Hey since op is still active I hope I can get some help here.  I have a couple of questions.
1. Do you ferment the muscovado sugar with the water kefir for the 1st fermentation?  If not when do you use it.

2.  What amounts of ingredients do you use. measurements or even about how much.

I might have more questions once I have these answered I REALLY want to try this Tek.  Anyways if questions can't be answered I think this is a fun Tek for people to know about this amazing sounding process.
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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: wild_aussie]
    #27779797 - 05/16/22 03:54 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Hey since op is still active I hope I can get some help here.  I have a couple of questions.
1. Do you ferment the muscovado sugar with the water kefir for the 1st fermentation?  If not when do you use it.

2.  What amounts of ingredients do you use. measurements or even about how much.

I might have more questions once I have these answered I REALLY want to try this Tek.  Anyways if questions can't be answered I think this is a fun Tek for people to know about this amazing sounding process.
Thanks for your knowledge and time.





1. Yes, you ferment muscovado sugar or brown sugar or washed sugar together with the water kefir grains for the 1st ferment. And then after around 2 days, you filter out the grains, restart the fermentation and use the water kefir juice filtrate to use in fermenting your mushrooms(thus called 2nd ferment).

2. I just eyeball, when the stirred sugary water is sweet enough for my taste, I go with that,then add the water kefir grains(also called tibicos grains).  For the mushrooms, you can squeeze in as much as you want, just make sure theyre fully saturated with your water kefir juice(which you get from your 1st ferment).


No problem, you can ask however many questions you want.

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #27780211 - 05/16/22 12:31 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Quote:

LittleBoard said:
If I understand this right then the probiotic bacteria prevent any bad bacteria or molds etc. to come in but that does not solve the problem of psilocybin shelve life. For this you would need refrigeration or freezing at some point. What makes this so great?
I could drink a regular dried mushroom tea and chase it with komboucha and that may be very similar.





These store well, if I remember correctly, up to 2-3 months, refrigerated(but thats only because they ran out around that time).

I did this for novelty. You can drink your tea and chase with kombucha if you want to.




In the first couple pages op you said you had a batch you tried at 4 months and you said was still good with no potency lost refrigerated of course


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: wild_aussie]
    #27784889 - 05/19/22 08:31 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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wild_aussie said:
Quote:

pablokabute said:
Quote:

LittleBoard said:
If I understand this right then the probiotic bacteria prevent any bad bacteria or molds etc. to come in but that does not solve the problem of psilocybin shelve life. For this you would need refrigeration or freezing at some point. What makes this so great?
I could drink a regular dried mushroom tea and chase it with komboucha and that may be very similar.





These store well, if I remember correctly, up to 2-3 months, refrigerated(but thats only because they ran out around that time).

I did this for novelty. You can drink your tea and chase with kombucha if you want to.




In the first couple pages op you said you had a batch you tried at 4 months and you said was still good with no potency lost refrigerated of course





They store well so long as its refrigerated IME. Im not sure how long it holds outside the fridge though.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #27789757 - 05/23/22 05:57 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Do you recommend a glass container with a locking washer cap.  Or will a plastic 2 liter work.  Not that I want anything I'm drinking fermenting in plastic lol.  Just curious I see in your pic is a glass bottle.


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    #27789787 - 05/23/22 06:26 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Do you recommend a glass container with a locking washer cap.  Or will a plastic 2 liter work.  Not that I want anything I'm drinking fermenting in plastic lol.  Just curious I see in your pic is a glass bottle.





Hey man I saw your pm, I tried replying once but my response somehow got lost while typing and wasnt able to reply again. I will respond to your pm again wait.

Btw, if you are to purchase some water kefir grains, purchase 'water' kefir grains or tibicos grains, and NOT kefir grains because its a totally different set of fermenting organisms. Kefir grains are used to make 'milk' kefir.

Some say water kefir fermentation is aerobic, while some say its anaerobic. Glass container is great. Locking washer cap set loosely is what I do(I do aerobic). Some even just cover the lid with cloth and a rubberband.

If you have glass, always use glass.


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    #27790816 - 05/24/22 03:54 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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    #28428856 - 08/10/23 05:58 PM (5 months, 15 days ago)

seems very good idea
i want to try it with some fresh mushrooms cause i do not have a dehydrator
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    #28429270 - 08/11/23 01:53 AM (5 months, 15 days ago)

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seems very good idea
i want to try it with some fresh mushrooms cause i do not have a dehydrator
trying to find some water kefir in my area





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    #28463994 - 09/10/23 05:02 AM (4 months, 16 days ago)

This is pretty awesome, I may have to give this a go. Thank you for this contribution!!


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    #28473591 - 09/18/23 10:35 AM (4 months, 7 days ago)

mush soda. lovely!
any pics from anyone ?


need to try this with libs, since its in season.
gonna try both butcha / kefir.
and to add taste/colour through 2nd fermentation.
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    #28589246 - 12/19/23 02:08 AM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Hey read this thread and I am really psyched I am a long time kombucha brewer.

And would love to try a kombucha infused version.

Did you ever make it?


How do you use dried shrooms?
Make regular mushroom tea and just add this water in the second fermentation?

I was thinking of brewing a regular English Breakfast tea for 10 minutes then seep in the dried shrooms for another 10 minutes and then do the first fermentation. But this would require at least a week of fermentation!

Great thread and awesom idea thanks for posting it!


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    #28607725 - 01/02/24 09:01 PM (25 days, 11 hours ago)

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Hey read this thread and I am really psyched I am a long time kombucha brewer.

And would love to try a kombucha infused version.

Did you ever make it?


How do you use dried shrooms?
Make regular mushroom tea and just add this water in the second fermentation?

I was thinking of brewing a regular English Breakfast tea for 10 minutes then seep in the dried shrooms for another 10 minutes and then do the first fermentation. But this would require at least a week of fermentation!

Great thread and awesom idea thanks for posting it!





If I am to do it, Id complete the first fermentation of kombucha, and add your dried and powdered mushrooms for max surface area, or you can even use fresh ones, 2nd ferment in a day or two or three and then filter out your mushrooms, bottle, and refrigerate.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: taipana]
    #28610800 - 01/05/24 05:23 PM (22 days, 15 hours ago)

Actives are wat
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taipana said:
Hey read this thread and I am really psyched I am a long time kombucha brewer.

And would love to try a kombucha infused version.

Did you ever make it?


How do you use dried shrooms?
Make regular mushroom tea and just add this water in the second fermentation?

I was thinking of brewing a regular English Breakfast tea for 10 minutes then seep in the dried shrooms for another 10 minutes and then do the first fermentation. But this would require at least a week of fermentation!

Great thread and awesom idea thanks for posting it!





But your procedure sounds like it would work too


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