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Offlinecrowseed
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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #25608418 - 11/12/18 03:07 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Great tek! I did something similar with fly agaric and apples, to make fly agaric and apple cider vinegar. I used wild yeasts collected from the air (just leave apple peel out on a plate for a couple of weeks). It eventually becomes vinegar, so you don't have to store it in the fridge.

I just microdose it and it makes you feel so alive.



hate to post just to nitpick, but aren't their wild yeasts found in the apples/peels themselves? When I made cider/plum wine this way I didn't need to let it sit out for a couple weeks, seems like that'd just risk introducing contaminants. Although, vinegar seems pretty foolproof when you leave applestuff open, I've found forgotten apple products that should've spoiled/rotted before but they just became vinegar. But still, perhaps a less pure vinegar than if you sealed off the apple peels in a vessel. anyways, i'm just bored

I post in the name of learning, not nitpicking, I swear..




Yes everything will have wild yeasts on the outside of them as they're in the air everywhere. If you're using the skin and haven't washed the apple then no need to leave the apple out to get exposure to them. If you've bought them in packaging from a supermarket, it's probably worth it. Sometimes I get no fermentation and just get apple juice.

Once you've got the culture going, you can just transfer a bit of the liquid to the next bottle/jar.

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: crowseed]
    #25610026 - 11/12/18 04:50 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

, gotta respect the fizz! 4 the fizz! Is sacred, the fizz! Has healing attributes, the fizz! Is a form a communication.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Deemstar]
    #25612872 - 11/13/18 07:27 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Deemstar said:
, gotta respect the fizz! 4 the fizz! Is sacred, the fizz! Has healing attributes, the fizz! Is a form a communication.





magicshroom soda man, gotta love the fizz hahaha


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: pablokabute]
    #25624751 - 11/19/18 08:07 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

This is so cool.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Philo DuFresne]
    #25625775 - 11/19/18 04:44 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Omg I know what I'm doing with my stubs now!


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: RalphieRamone]
    #25686709 - 12/18/18 03:41 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

This is a neat tek. Thanks for sharing


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #25707211 - 12/28/18 07:17 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

oh yes, save to threads


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! [Re: Champloo]
    #25722428 - 01/04/19 08:46 AM (5 years, 26 days ago)

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Champloo said:
This is a neat tek. Thanks for sharing



:getstoned:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26092915 - 07/06/19 10:14 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't done mushroom water kefir, but I've done a LOT of milk kefir, water kefir, and kombucha.

I used to do a secondary ferment with sugar and jamaica (hibiscus flowers) and the carbonation was insane. As in, "painted the ceiling pink insane" when I opened one without slowly bleeding it first. BTW, those hibiscus flowers really stain.

So I just want to warn anyone new to fermenting kefir, if you end up bottling or otherwise sealing a water kefir ferment, you MUST use good strong bottles intended for carbonated beverages. I use flip-top lever bottles from the brewing store, or some fancy beer brands come in them and you can save them.

The decorative ones you can find at kitchen stores (for making decorative bottles of preserved oranges, etc like you see in Italian restaurants) are much thinner glass and are NOT safe. They'll go off like bombs.

I didn't know this, and I was fortunate that when I opened one, it was pointed away from me, because the bottle literally broke at the neck, and the neck and lid went... somewhere. I never found it; I was outside at the time.

I still sweat thinking about that because I was effectively holding a glass hand grenade. I was dumb and just got super-lucky. So yeah, keep it cracked to bleed off the pressure, or use real brewing bottles.

FWIW, I don't do water kefir anymore because it became a headache trigger, but kombucha seems to be fine (also doesn't produce bombs!) so I may try this technique with kombucha sometime.

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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: FiddyYearsDark]
    #26092984 - 07/06/19 11:07 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

great safety tips.

headache trigger? I wonder why is that?

anyway, more and more, Im more inclined to think im more of a kombucha guy(havent had any cultures to play with yet), as opposed to water kefir. doing it every 2 days i think isnt for me. with kombucha you can, like, do the rounds every couple of weeks, right?... milk kefir is even more painful to replenish the milk in the culture so no thank you. hahahaha


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26093344 - 07/06/19 03:08 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

Tyramines causing headaches? Maybe?

I inherited migraines, so pretty much a stiff breeze will give me a headache. Anything, really.

It's like being a 16-year-old boy with erections, only with headaches, not boners. They just show up randomly, any old time, and I'm lucky when I can identify a trigger.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26206507 - 09/24/19 12:51 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

followed link in your sig to find this gem!

wow, I love kombucha and kefir, actually many fermented drinks and foods!

almost couldn't read whole thread before running to grab the Art of Fermentation by Sandor Katz, dusting it off now and getting excited about this lol. 

New to forums and have yet to start first grow, planned first harvest around new year- regardless this has opened many a door for us, thank you, sir, for posting this up and keeping it visible!

haha, love this!  :mushroomtwirl:  :gay:  :dancer:  :irishtoast:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: TeaforTwo] * 1
    #26212211 - 09/26/19 08:30 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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followed link in your sig to find this gem!

wow, I love kombucha and kefir, actually many fermented drinks and foods!

almost couldn't read whole thread before running to grab the Art of Fermentation by Sandor Katz, dusting it off now and getting excited about this lol. 

New to forums and have yet to start first grow, planned first harvest around new year- regardless this has opened many a door for us, thank you, sir, for posting this up and keeping it visible!

haha, love this!  :mushroomtwirl:  :gay:  :dancer:  :irishtoast:





just make sure you freeze or refrigerate after your 2nd fermentation, else, your solution would turn to vinegar hahaha heating it a bit might also stop the continuous fermentation..

tell us how it goes! :wink:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26212481 - 09/27/19 12:25 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Cool recipe!  I haven't had kefir in ages, but I'll be keeping this in mind for down the road!


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: teonanacatl83]
    #26215174 - 09/28/19 04:25 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

thannnkyuu


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: mi.ro.ku]
    #26215309 - 09/28/19 06:56 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

no prob. thanks for reading. I hope all o' you guys can do this and report back :P peeeace


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'The second seal: “All CONTAMINATED things and events are unsatisfactory.”'



"I envy you. You North Americans are very lucky. You are fighting the most important fight of all - you live in THE HEART OF THE BEAST."

--Anonymous Guerilla, or is he..


Edited by pablokabute (09/28/19 08:17 AM)


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #26228486 - 10/03/19 09:32 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

great idea! :congrats:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: Primal Glitch]
    #26229016 - 10/04/19 07:29 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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Primal Glitch said:
great idea! :congrats:




I feel like I wanna acknowledge this so the thread goes to the top xD


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'The second seal: “All CONTAMINATED things and events are unsatisfactory.”'



"I envy you. You North Americans are very lucky. You are fighting the most important fight of all - you live in THE HEART OF THE BEAST."

--Anonymous Guerilla, or is he..


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: Primal Glitch]
    #26229405 - 10/04/19 11:27 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Hi. Thanks for writing this tek.

Will there be much loss by doing this or will the fermentation process pull out all the good stuff from the shrooms?

ex. If i put 10 gram in 1 liter, will it be about 1 gram equivalent for each 1 deciliter?


Edited by Coffeeholic (10/04/19 01:41 PM)


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: Coffeeholic]
    #26230281 - 10/04/19 06:49 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

it is in my understanding that the actives in the mushrooms are very water soluble so there might not be so much loss after all..


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