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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: Sub-Easy]
    #27309154 - 05/14/21 11:39 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

my kombucha ferments in a few days. maybe do some more research :shrug:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: Munchauzen]
    #27309537 - 05/15/21 08:38 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

If I understand this right then the probiotic bacteria prevent any bad bacteria or molds etc. to come in but that does not solve the problem of psilocybin shelve life. For this you would need refrigeration or freezing at some point. What makes this so great?
I could drink a regular dried mushroom tea and chase it with komboucha and that may be very similar.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: LittleBoard]
    #27309925 - 05/15/21 02:41 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Ok, so like a dog with a bone, I looked into it.

My yogurt was made in fridge, but yogurt and kifer can be made in a day or two in the right condition. I guess the lactose sugar is broken down fast by the little guys.

Also kombucha, in theory can be made in a week.

Also (mountain dew flavord) or young tij, like I was saying, in about a week, if I remember correctly.

But that's it.

Kombucha really takes two and a half weeks, up to five months. From start to finish.

Admittedly, he did say extraction. Just the wording was confusing.

It's not a big point, but in order to understand what a person is making, it's good to understand what is being made.

Regardless, all of these methods sound great.

Anything can be fermented to an edible point. Even cow manure can be made into wine, and meat into something like cheese. So I wonder if you can't just ferment the mushrooms by themselves in some way. Wine maybe, if you can find something to convert the protein into sugar. One ferment proses I've tried is to bury acorns by a river for a year. They turn into candy. Old Indian trick.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: LittleBoard]
    #27310086 - 05/15/21 04:48 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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LittleBoard said:
If I understand this right then the probiotic bacteria prevent any bad bacteria or molds etc. to come in but that does not solve the problem of psilocybin shelve life. For this you would need refrigeration or freezing at some point. What makes this so great?
I could drink a regular dried mushroom tea and chase it with komboucha and that may be very similar.





These store well, if I remember correctly, up to 2-3 months, refrigerated(but thats only because they ran out around that time).

I did this for novelty. You can drink your tea and chase with kombucha if you want to.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #27777956 - 05/15/22 09:24 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Hey since op is still active I hope I can get some help here.  I have a couple of questions.
1. Do you ferment the muscovado sugar with the water kefir for the 1st fermentation?  If not when do you use it.

2.  What amounts of ingredients do you use. measurements or even about how much.

I might have more questions once I have these answered I REALLY want to try this Tek.  Anyways if questions can't be answered I think this is a fun Tek for people to know about this amazing sounding process.
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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: wild_aussie]
    #27779797 - 05/16/22 03:54 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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wild_aussie said:
Hey since op is still active I hope I can get some help here.  I have a couple of questions.
1. Do you ferment the muscovado sugar with the water kefir for the 1st fermentation?  If not when do you use it.

2.  What amounts of ingredients do you use. measurements or even about how much.

I might have more questions once I have these answered I REALLY want to try this Tek.  Anyways if questions can't be answered I think this is a fun Tek for people to know about this amazing sounding process.
Thanks for your knowledge and time.





1. Yes, you ferment muscovado sugar or brown sugar or washed sugar together with the water kefir grains for the 1st ferment. And then after around 2 days, you filter out the grains, restart the fermentation and use the water kefir juice filtrate to use in fermenting your mushrooms(thus called 2nd ferment).

2. I just eyeball, when the stirred sugary water is sweet enough for my taste, I go with that,then add the water kefir grains(also called tibicos grains).  For the mushrooms, you can squeeze in as much as you want, just make sure theyre fully saturated with your water kefir juice(which you get from your 1st ferment).


No problem, you can ask however many questions you want.

Have fun. You can also post back with your results. :smile:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #27780211 - 05/16/22 12:31 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Quote:

pablokabute said:
Quote:

LittleBoard said:
If I understand this right then the probiotic bacteria prevent any bad bacteria or molds etc. to come in but that does not solve the problem of psilocybin shelve life. For this you would need refrigeration or freezing at some point. What makes this so great?
I could drink a regular dried mushroom tea and chase it with komboucha and that may be very similar.





These store well, if I remember correctly, up to 2-3 months, refrigerated(but thats only because they ran out around that time).

I did this for novelty. You can drink your tea and chase with kombucha if you want to.




In the first couple pages op you said you had a batch you tried at 4 months and you said was still good with no potency lost refrigerated of course


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: wild_aussie]
    #27784889 - 05/19/22 08:31 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Quote:

wild_aussie said:
Quote:

pablokabute said:
Quote:

LittleBoard said:
If I understand this right then the probiotic bacteria prevent any bad bacteria or molds etc. to come in but that does not solve the problem of psilocybin shelve life. For this you would need refrigeration or freezing at some point. What makes this so great?
I could drink a regular dried mushroom tea and chase it with komboucha and that may be very similar.





These store well, if I remember correctly, up to 2-3 months, refrigerated(but thats only because they ran out around that time).

I did this for novelty. You can drink your tea and chase with kombucha if you want to.




In the first couple pages op you said you had a batch you tried at 4 months and you said was still good with no potency lost refrigerated of course





They store well so long as its refrigerated IME. Im not sure how long it holds outside the fridge though.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #27789757 - 05/23/22 05:57 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Do you recommend a glass container with a locking washer cap.  Or will a plastic 2 liter work.  Not that I want anything I'm drinking fermenting in plastic lol.  Just curious I see in your pic is a glass bottle.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: wild_aussie]
    #27789787 - 05/23/22 06:26 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

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Do you recommend a glass container with a locking washer cap.  Or will a plastic 2 liter work.  Not that I want anything I'm drinking fermenting in plastic lol.  Just curious I see in your pic is a glass bottle.





Hey man I saw your pm, I tried replying once but my response somehow got lost while typing and wasnt able to reply again. I will respond to your pm again wait.

Btw, if you are to purchase some water kefir grains, purchase 'water' kefir grains or tibicos grains, and NOT kefir grains because its a totally different set of fermenting organisms. Kefir grains are used to make 'milk' kefir.

Some say water kefir fermentation is aerobic, while some say its anaerobic. Glass container is great. Locking washer cap set loosely is what I do(I do aerobic). Some even just cover the lid with cloth and a rubberband.

If you have glass, always use glass.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #27790816 - 05/24/22 03:54 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Thanks 👍


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #28428856 - 08/10/23 05:58 PM (5 months, 17 days ago)

seems very good idea
i want to try it with some fresh mushrooms cause i do not have a dehydrator
trying to find some water kefir in my area


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: kimpot7834]
    #28429270 - 08/11/23 01:53 AM (5 months, 16 days ago)

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seems very good idea
i want to try it with some fresh mushrooms cause i do not have a dehydrator
trying to find some water kefir in my area





Keep us posted :smile:


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #28463994 - 09/10/23 05:02 AM (4 months, 17 days ago)

This is pretty awesome, I may have to give this a go. Thank you for this contribution!!


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #28473591 - 09/18/23 10:35 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

mush soda. lovely!
any pics from anyone ?


need to try this with libs, since its in season.
gonna try both butcha / kefir.
and to add taste/colour through 2nd fermentation.
and bottle it in some cute bottles


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: pablokabute]
    #28589246 - 12/19/23 02:08 AM (1 month, 10 days ago)

Hey read this thread and I am really psyched I am a long time kombucha brewer.

And would love to try a kombucha infused version.

Did you ever make it?


How do you use dried shrooms?
Make regular mushroom tea and just add this water in the second fermentation?

I was thinking of brewing a regular English Breakfast tea for 10 minutes then seep in the dried shrooms for another 10 minutes and then do the first fermentation. But this would require at least a week of fermentation!

Great thread and awesom idea thanks for posting it!


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: taipana]
    #28607725 - 01/02/24 09:01 PM (27 days, 1 hour ago)

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taipana said:
Hey read this thread and I am really psyched I am a long time kombucha brewer.

And would love to try a kombucha infused version.

Did you ever make it?


How do you use dried shrooms?
Make regular mushroom tea and just add this water in the second fermentation?

I was thinking of brewing a regular English Breakfast tea for 10 minutes then seep in the dried shrooms for another 10 minutes and then do the first fermentation. But this would require at least a week of fermentation!

Great thread and awesom idea thanks for posting it!





If I am to do it, Id complete the first fermentation of kombucha, and add your dried and powdered mushrooms for max surface area, or you can even use fresh ones, 2nd ferment in a day or two or three and then filter out your mushrooms, bottle, and refrigerate.


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Re: Fermented mushroom tea is the BOMB!! (tek) [Re: taipana]
    #28610800 - 01/05/24 05:23 PM (24 days, 5 hours ago)

Actives are wat
Quote:

taipana said:
Hey read this thread and I am really psyched I am a long time kombucha brewer.

And would love to try a kombucha infused version.

Did you ever make it?


How do you use dried shrooms?
Make regular mushroom tea and just add this water in the second fermentation?

I was thinking of brewing a regular English Breakfast tea for 10 minutes then seep in the dried shrooms for another 10 minutes and then do the first fermentation. But this would require at least a week of fermentation!

Great thread and awesom idea thanks for posting it!





But your procedure sounds like it would work too


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