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Trippedytrip
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Should I Trip ??
#23377531 - 06/24/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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So Guys i need some advice please ,
I have done 3 times shrooms.
1st: 3g Hawaian Cubensis (Pretty distorted , at start i fighted the trip and after a while as i was with experienced users it felt better and got in the flow and really enjoyed it with a final comedown sex-session)
2nd: 1.5 and 3rd 1g not really intense just few visuals and high awareness.
So my question is :
I am 19 now. I have passed now a crucial stage of my life where i had DP from weed/stress/anxiety and finally a breef psychosis all about 4-5 months.
I am recovering now little by little but its hard and i have kinda lost my meaning to life, the north sight and the person i was.
What do you guys think ??
Would help me a lot having good advice from serious consumers )
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Only you can answer that question, if your past experiences have proved meaningful/insightful for you than I'd say your safe to embark on your next journey. Maybe go with 2 or 2.5 grams if you're looking to keep it light but still have a trip.
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Eclipse3130 said: Only you can answer that question
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Yes i think that is true and have a great respect to shroomies 
The thing is , I have been living 4 months in such a stressy/mind chattering/anxious situation where i have messed up really with myself , i have flew way to much and have lost totally my conscious part(my face in a fact). My 2nd inner self kicked me really in the ass and tought me how should i really be in life with others . It is very hard to keep on life in society but i slowly are recovering.
Any shroom strain you could suggest that has had any great impact on you?
Thanks Guys
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NO YOU SHOULD NEVER TRIP. Unless you want your psychosis back.
You admit weed played role in psychosis development. Shrooms are stronger than weed. You admit stress led to psychosis. Tripping IS stress.
Several decades ago, experimental psychotherapy with LSD managed to help some people. But it was psychotherapy what helped, not LSD itself. So it's not like you trip and everything is cool. It's a huge risk for you, and it's not worth it.
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Eclipse3130 said: Only you can answer that question, if your past experiences have proved meaningful/insightful for you than I'd say your safe to embark on your next journey. Maybe go with 2 or 2.5 grams if you're looking to keep it light but still have a trip.
Did you even read the post? That part about OP's psychosis.
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Re: Should I Trip ?? [Re: kyu]
#23377856 - 06/24/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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He ??
I had a very brief Psychosis episode , It was the final episode of my breakdown i had about 5 months getting always worse. Started with Depression , then DP from weed in a way and Anxious/Stressfull life job moments . I enjoyed my trip with shrooms and i am smoking little by little now. It was induced by not knowing how really drugs work or either appreciating them and myself and my perception.
I think when my mind is strong enough i am good to go.
I have enjoyed weed and other drugs a lot before.
I dont kinda understand your post , it wont bring my psychosis back unless i bring it back .
You kinda like afraiding people?
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I conquered DP through smoking and taking psychedelics, strangely enough DP was caused from a bad shroom trip. DP is ocd anxiety and unwillingness to deal with the emotions and feelings of life and reality.
psychedelics have improved my wisdom knowledge and mental state tremendously, trip as much as you want , psychosis is fake and is rather you causing the psychosis upon yourself.
good luck on ur trip and journey
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Trippedytrip said: He ??
I had a very brief Psychosis episode , It was the final episode of my breakdown i had about 5 months getting always worse. Started with Depression , then DP from weed in a way and Anxious/Stressfull life job moments . I enjoyed my trip with shrooms and i am smoking little by little now. It was induced by not knowing how really drugs work or either appreciating them and myself and my perception.
I think when my mind is strong enough i am good to go.
I have enjoyed weed and other drugs a lot before.
I dont kinda understand your post , it wont bring my psychosis back unless i bring it back .
You kinda like afraiding people?
So you tripped already right? well what's done is done. There's lots of evidence showing Psilocybin mushrooms to be beneficial for mental health problems. I haven't seen one single CAUSAL study that proves smoking weed CAUSES psychosis. I don't think I've even read a causal study that proves any conclusive psychosis link with weed.
I haven't seen ANY to do with shrooms (that doesn't mean it doesn't exist of course) but I'd love to see one.
I think genetics are the answer to psychosis personally. Being anxious is far more harmful to your health, so worrying about it will do you no good. The other poster doesn't know what your future holds so don't worry.
I would advise caution though in general. That's just my sensible side talking, but I've not seen any science that proves tripping on shrooms will causes stress or psychosis.
Brain scans of people on shrooms shows Psilocybin decreases activity in the brain in many regions. My understanding of psychosis is it has links to overactive dopamine pathways hence why anti-psychotics tend to be D2 receptor antagonists, so with that knowledge I wouldn't draw any conclusion shrooms will harm you, they primarily work on 5-HT2a serotonin pathways.
-------------------- My Psychedelic experiences: LSD - 30+ times (2 hits min / max 3 hits) every time. Shrooms - 4 times (2.5 - 3.5g) DMT - 5 times (Powerful breakthrough only once) Life can be one hell of a bitter pill to swallow so I chose acid instead -YeOlde
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Re: Should I Trip ?? [Re: kyu]
#23378029 - 06/24/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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kyu said: NO YOU SHOULD NEVER TRIP. Unless you want your psychosis back.
You admit weed played role in psychosis development. Shrooms are stronger than weed.
Ok first off psychedelics have been shown to treat and even cure mental illnesses before it's not as black and white as many people think. Also the "shrooms are stronger" argument is not even a real argument. That's not how this stuff works. Just because something is stronger doesn't mean it's worse or more likely to do what you say.
Psychedelic can make you sane or insane it depends entirely on how you use them and what your attitude towards it is. I just don't know what this guy's exact attitude towards it would be and I don't know him so that's why I can't recommend that he take them but just because has the psychosis does not mean he can't or shouldn't. He could greatly benefit if he does it properly I just don't know if he can do it properly which is why I'm saying only he can decide if he should.
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Re: Should I Trip ?? [Re: YeOlde]
#23378051 - 06/24/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for answering !
The thing is yes it is all in my mind .
It had gotten always worse but i wanted to open my eyes and see it though because i was truly escaping from all my "fake problems" i had created up and stories.
The thing is i have fried my brain up from wrong ilusions/realities of my self past and totally lost the person wich I was. I am now twice as prepared for life and think how i must act but it is hard to move on in society. The egoism and self-thinking/living alone has brought me into that state and weed/other drugs has triggered it. I hadnt DP until i looked up in the internet for symptoms and said Oh i have them so i have DP.
What really bothers me is that i had a Astral Projection and had really leveled upon a conscious state as i at first used weed smart until all the other shit came.
I think i just have no conscious part no more of me i am just a mind. My mind has also shrinked though because i have been in such an unlogically long trip and i hate myself for taking it to the extreme point and hurting the loved ones.
I wont see a long time in the mirror again.
Thanks for your posts
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Trippedytrip said: Thanks for answering !
The thing is yes it is all in my mind .
It had gotten always worse but i wanted to open my eyes and see it though because i was truly escaping from all my "fake problems" i had created up and stories.
The thing is i have fried my brain up from wrong ilusions/realities of my self past and totally lost the person wich I was. I am now twice as prepared for life and think how i must act but it is hard to move on in society. The egoism and self-thinking/living alone has brought me into that state and weed/other drugs has triggered it. I hadnt DP until i looked up in the internet for symptoms and said Oh i have them so i have DP.
What really bothers me is that i had a Astral Projection and had really leveled upon a conscious state as i at first used weed smart until all the other shit came.
I think i just have no conscious part no more of me i am just a mind. My mind has also shrinked though because i have been in such an unlogically long trip and i hate myself for taking it to the extreme point and hurting the loved ones.
I wont see a long time in the mirror again.
Thanks for your posts
This is no problem at all. I'd hate for you to miss out on the beneficial aspects of mushrooms (especially mushrooms) just because of an unfounded fear.
You have to recognise that psychoactives can change your outlook on life for the better or worse (but usually better, that's what the studies suggest) and for me, I have had mental health problems MASSIVELY improved by Magic Mushrooms and LSD, but shrooms I would say are the safer bet.
I think when asking these question you should really look at facts like the way I did.
I had severe Depression, Anxiety and PTSD that's been hugely improved since using Psychedelics. Especially shrooms. No anti depressent offered me such a benefit.
It would be wrong to assume there's no risk whatsoever, you'd have to be sensible here and know a psychedelic can alter your mindset, but you don't get anywhere in life without taking risks.
Lots of people have breakdowns and depressive spells (psychosis not so often as say Depression / Suicidal thoughts) so that's pretty "normal" anyway.
It's your life so you need to assess the risks. If it was me, I would do it. Shrooms have no interaction with Dopamine pathways whatsoever, and lessen activity in the brain not increase it - boths things having nothing to do with what we know about psychotic episodes.
Good luck in your choice. I still recommend you do 2g dried, this equates to around 20 fresh mushrooms, I had a good trip on 2g with a tea like method I mentioned.
Ideally I'd say minimise the drugs you take habitually and make something like shrooms something you do monthly (or less). It's worked very well for me.
-------------------- My Psychedelic experiences: LSD - 30+ times (2 hits min / max 3 hits) every time. Shrooms - 4 times (2.5 - 3.5g) DMT - 5 times (Powerful breakthrough only once) Life can be one hell of a bitter pill to swallow so I chose acid instead -YeOlde
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Re: Should I Trip ?? [Re: YeOlde]
#23378200 - 06/24/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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YeOlde said: I have had mental health problems MASSIVELY improved by Magic Mushrooms and LSD, but shrooms I would say are the safer bet.
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Thanks for re-posting ,
The thing is only i have used Weed to harm me not letting be the essence of my true selfe.
That has come all up to a end and has teached me a real life lesson and paw ned my ass hard.thats the price to become strong i guess. I am now 3 weeks without any drug .
Ive read many studies and experienced shroomer friends of mine suggest also thats a good way getting kinda out of that state and enjoy life again
Thankyou
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Trippedytrip said: Thanks for re-posting ,
The thing is only i have used Weed to harm me not letting be the essence of my true selfe.
That has come all up to a end and has teached me a real life lesson and paw ned my ass hard.thats the price to become strong i guess. I am now 3 weeks without any drug .
Ive read many studies and experienced shroomer friends of mine suggest also thats a good way getting kinda out of that state and enjoy life again
Thankyou 
My friend I speak for myself with this as many find benefit with habitual weed smoking but I can tell you smoking weed all the time isn't the way forward. I went through 2 spells in my life with daily smoking both for periods of 2 - 3 years and when I stopped I felt so much better. I really did. Moderation is the key.
Also combining weed with shrooms is not a good idea it can increase paranoia and anxiety for people. I recommend the untainted shroom experience all the way.
Good luck mate I hope it helps you like it did me and many other people, if you choose to trip. I beleive going alone is the best way, be safe at home in your bed, blanket, bit of music in the background and a drink with you. Go into the trip positive and feel confident you're gonna come out better on the other side you might just fulfil that prophecy.
The mind is everything. How you think about things. No drugs I've done have had such a profound way on the way I view things like LSD and Shrooms have.
I agree with your last post. When I come out of a shroom experience I feel so positive and reborn. This benefit is obviously benefited the less often you trip, I'd recommend once a month or more if possible. Don't over do it that's when you're likely increase chances of having shittier experiences and less long term benefit.
Every single experience I had made me feel reborn after and very positive. That's just me though and I think many others would agree.
Good luck
-------------------- My Psychedelic experiences: LSD - 30+ times (2 hits min / max 3 hits) every time. Shrooms - 4 times (2.5 - 3.5g) DMT - 5 times (Powerful breakthrough only once) Life can be one hell of a bitter pill to swallow so I chose acid instead -YeOlde
Edited by YeOlde (06/24/16 06:07 PM)
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Re: Should I Trip ?? [Re: YeOlde]
#23378318 - 06/24/16 06:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah thanks,
The only thing i know that i have learned much about me/life and drug use . I just abused cannabis and myself way to much
I will moderate my cannabis use and shroom here and then because the first trips felt really amazing and i long ago decided go a spiritual path and im the kinda person wich such an aura.
Thanks , do you have any good strain/light potency shroom or should i just try out any strain?
Peace out
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Trippedytrip said: Yeah thanks,
The only thing i know that i have learned much about me/life and drug use . I just abused cannabis and myself way to much
I will moderate my cannabis use and shroom here and then because the first trips felt really amazing and i long ago decided go a spiritual path and im the kinda person wich such an aura.
Thanks , do you have any good strain/light potency shroom or should i just try out any strain?
Peace out
Psilocybe Cubensis is the standard. When I say 2g I mean with those shrooms. That doesn't apply for Liberty caps as they're more potent. The specific strain of Cubensis I enjoyed was B+.
-------------------- My Psychedelic experiences: LSD - 30+ times (2 hits min / max 3 hits) every time. Shrooms - 4 times (2.5 - 3.5g) DMT - 5 times (Powerful breakthrough only once) Life can be one hell of a bitter pill to swallow so I chose acid instead -YeOlde
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kyu said: NO YOU SHOULD NEVER TRIP. Unless you want your psychosis back.
You admit weed played role in psychosis development. Shrooms are stronger than weed.
Ok first off psychedelics have been shown to treat and even cure mental illnesses before it's not as black and white as many people think. Also the "shrooms are stronger" argument is not even a real argument. That's not how this stuff works. Just because something is stronger doesn't mean it's worse or more likely to do what you say.
This is also a very valid point. Shrooms and Weed have binding affinities for different receptor sites. They offer a totally different psychoactive experience and share no similarities what so ever in the body chemically.
-------------------- My Psychedelic experiences: LSD - 30+ times (2 hits min / max 3 hits) every time. Shrooms - 4 times (2.5 - 3.5g) DMT - 5 times (Powerful breakthrough only once) Life can be one hell of a bitter pill to swallow so I chose acid instead -YeOlde
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Re: Should I Trip ?? [Re: kyu]
#23378387 - 06/24/16 06:35 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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kyu said: NO YOU SHOULD NEVER TRIP. Unless you want your psychosis back.
You admit weed played role in psychosis development. Shrooms are stronger than weed. You admit stress led to psychosis. Tripping IS stress.
Several decades ago, experimental psychotherapy with LSD managed to help some people. But it was psychotherapy what helped, not LSD itself. So it's not like you trip and everything is cool. It's a huge risk for you, and it's not worth it.

I personally think you should not use psychedelics if you're recently recovering from some mental health issues. OP, you admit that you're still "slowly recovering." You admit that cannabis had a role to play in your mental health issues.
Be aware that eating mushrooms right now will involve a certain risk factor that probably wouldn't be present if you were to eat them in a year's time, or however long it will take you to consider yourself fully recovered. My 2c.
You should also remind yourself that nobody here -- including myself -- is likely to be a medical professional. Take all the advice here with a grain of salt (mine included), and if you've got any genuine questions or apprehensions, consult an actual professional in real life.
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Re: Should I Trip ?? [Re: Matai]
#23378398 - 06/24/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Matai said: that eating mushrooms right now will involve a certain risk factor that probably wouldn't be present if you were to eat them in a year's time, or however long it will take you to consider yourself fully recovered. My 2c.
This is absolutely true but it's not like it's as significantly dangerous or risky as people make it seem. Especially with psilocybin.
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