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Re: Zappaisgod passed away (I'm serious) [Re: SprewellSleeve]
    #23427762 - 07/09/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Anyone know how he passed yet?  I'm curious.


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Re: Zappaisgod passed away (I'm serious) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23427776 - 07/09/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Never going to know for sure. shLong didn't want to press the issue and ask. Said he'd update us if she (zappas family) had anything more to say and he hasn't (and it's been quite a while) so I'm guessing we won't be hearing more detail from her in the future.

Just an educated guess but probably heart failure. I don't recall him really talking about having any medical issues it was all just so sudden, he was getting up there in age and was a smoker/drinker. It'd be a safe bet it was heart failure.


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Re: Zappaisgod passed away (I'm serious) [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23427779 - 07/09/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Hmm well sucks either way. Hopefully they got the shroomery in heaven.  :lol:


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Re: Zappaisgod passed away (I'm serious) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23427840 - 07/09/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I'm deeply affected by the death of Zappa.  i didn't know him well, but I got along ok.  And as someone who faced death, I can only have compassion.

I only hoped it was quick and painless, and he didn't suffer.


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Re: Zappaisgod passed away (I'm serious) [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23428165 - 07/10/16 01:00 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Man its like really depressing me thinking how I'll never see that guy around again. He was the first one I ever talked to in private on this site. Fuck I'm gonna miss him. :sad:


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Re: Zappaisgod passed away (I'm serious) [Re: Enjoywho]
    #23428184 - 07/10/16 01:11 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Enjoywho said:
Anyone know how he passed yet?  I'm curious.



We're never going to know.. Sorry.

A heart issue or similar are a safe bet, however.

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Re: zappaisgod has passed away [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23428186 - 07/10/16 01:12 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Zappa, you were always nice to me.

A good soul, indeed.


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Re: Zappaisgod passed away (I'm serious) [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23429664 - 07/10/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

starfire_xes said:
I'm deeply affected by the death of Zappa.  i didn't know him well, but I got along ok.  And as someone who faced death, I can only have compassion.

I only hoped it was quick and painless, and he didn't suffer.




I fought with that old ass Nigga all the time. But I respected his opinion and made me think. I'd stop when browsing as there's a lot of names over the years that I stop and read as I've developed connections. Sucks I didn't get to say goodbye.


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Re: zappaisgod has passed away [Re: Masked]
    #23431155 - 07/11/16 03:08 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Masked said:
Icelander passed away? :sad:



His last post didn't sound like that.

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The reality is no one wants to go there or almost no one. It's one reason I left before and the reason I'll leave again. I'm heading in a different direction and I don't really have anything to offer in general philosophical debate. I've  tried and failed to engage people directly in the  subject of my interest.  No one wants to get familiar with that  material.  It's just that old habits die hard and I've come to call this place home for a pretty large chunk of my life. It was really fun for me once and I have met some really interesting folk here who are mostly dead or gone now.  So maybe it's best I concede this one and let it go. I can't debate you because I don't understand you.  It's pointless to try because it's like a foreign language that I don't speak.  That's just the way it is. Best of luck to you here



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Re: zappaisgod has passed away [Re: endogenous]
    #23431203 - 07/11/16 04:02 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I was supposed to meet him late August.  R.I.P. Zig.  The dissenter should be applauded, not condemned.  He provided a huge service to our community.


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Re: zappaisgod has passed away [Re: TheMovement]
    #23433973 - 07/12/16 03:22 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

We almost always disagreed -- but sorry to hear about zig.


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Re: zappaisgod has passed away [Re: endogenous] * 1
    #23434344 - 07/12/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

endogenous said:
Quote:

Masked said:
Icelander passed away? :sad:



His last post didn't sound like that.

Quote:

Icelander said:
The reality is no one wants to go there or almost no one. It's one reason I left before and the reason I'll leave again. I'm heading in a different direction and I don't really have anything to offer in general philosophical debate. I've  tried and failed to engage people directly in the  subject of my interest.  No one wants to get familiar with that  material.  It's just that old habits die hard and I've come to call this place home for a pretty large chunk of my life. It was really fun for me once and I have met some really interesting folk here who are mostly dead or gone now.  So maybe it's best I concede this one and let it go. I can't debate you because I don't understand you.  It's pointless to try because it's like a foreign language that I don't speak.  That's just the way it is. Best of luck to you here



https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23072873#23072873



If you look through some of his other recent post history, he mentions he knows that his time is coming soon. I think he had some sort of degenerative disease.


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Re: zappaisgod has passed away [Re: shLong]
    #23434666 - 07/12/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Peace, Zappa, I'm sure we'll hear your rants again some day, on another forum in another world.

We didn't always agree but at least he would reach out to you if you were open to new ideas. Sent me some really great music one time...

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Re: zappaisgod has passed away [Re: Chakra Shock]
    #23434724 - 07/12/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I still cant believe hes gone. Too sad

Im used to deaths, though, having lost my 19 year old brother at age 16

I hope his family is doing alright


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Re: zappaisgod has passed away [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 7
    #23436999 - 07/13/16 05:25 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I realize it's a bit late for my eulogy, but it took me a long time to find the words. It came to me last night as I was shitposting in the romp. I thought it would be appropriate to paste it here as well. I loved ziggy, he was one of my favorite posters by a mile and I feel like I got a lot out of our interactions, though I wish I could have talked to him much more before he went.

I think I'm still in denial about it. I keep expecting him to pop out saying "GOTCHA!" but intellectually I'm pretty sure this is for real. I'm probably going to ugly cry once I've fully accepted it.

He was a really good guy... I didn't like him after my first few exchanges with him, solely based on his politics, but as I watched his interactions with other regs and slowly began to piece together a picture of the man he really was, I found myself developing very warm and admiring feelings for him. What ultimately made his political positions easy for me to stomach was the fact that they made sense. That doesn't mean that I personally agree with them, or even think they're justified in some absolute sense, but when I consider where he's coming from-- as the head of an upper middle class family, a self-made and self-employed man who really did fight for everything he has-- it changed my perspective. I came to see his political views, which I still disagree with passionately and unequivocally, not just as justified, but even perhaps noble, given the details that I'd learned. He was fighting, as he always has, for his family, and for a world he could feel good about leaving to his daughter, to his grandchildren.

For me, personally, I'm blessed by my family and upbringing. My parents dedicated 200% of themselves to raising my brother and I and they continue to be there for us without fail. They have never faltered, they have never expressed regrets, and their love for us has never been in doubt, never been mitigated by the challenges that sometimes come up for them and between us. I know that many people don't get that benefit. I got the sense ziggy was there for his wife and daughter the same way my parents have been there for each other and for my brother and me, and IMO that is the greatest gift a person can give-- to themselves, to their children, even to the world. Our political differences seem so small and insignificant compared to that inestimable gift. I don't think I ever told him that I felt that way, but I like to hope he could feel the love, as I certainly did from him. The strength of his commitment to his family only seemed more poignant when I learned (somewhat recently) that he was orphaned from an early age. I have a big-ass vocabulary, but I'm speechless when I try to think of what to say about that. There are just no words.

The only one-on-one conversations we had were through PM. Though we never established an ongoing correspondence, those exchanges seemed to confirm my perception of him as thoughtful, good-natured, perhaps even tender-hearted. He recommended a number of novels for me to read and talked about his experiences with the southern drag scene. I actually went to him for advice and support when I was going through China Syndrome in the doomed old Romp last year. He told me to stay strong, to keep fighting and to pick my battles wisely. I told him I was thinking of quitting the shroomery and he asked me to stay, but I still tried to quit about a month later, in August. We continued to be friends on facebook and he would often show up with hilarious jibes on my status updates. My favorite was on the one where I was complaining about the lack of air conditioning on my campus, he went on a brief rant about what a pussy I was and closed with "suck it up, buttercup" and I just laughed so hard at that for some reason. But I unfriended him when I couldn't get him to stop bashing Muslims on my timeline. I added him again later on, but his comments were less frequent after that. I wish I had chosen a less alienating way to deal with that situation. I'm very lucky that I returned from my attempt at quitting the shroomery on time to at least have another few debates in the unsafe space of the pub and exchange another few PM's with him before it was too late.

The last political debate I had with ziggy was about the bathroom bill. You all know how close to my heart transgender rights are, and how difficult it can be for me not to take this sort of dispute very personally. Ziggy was against the idea that people should be allowed to choose the bathroom without oversight. He thought that confirmed trans people should be placed on some kind of national registry so that they could use the properly gendered bathroom without giving predators a free pass to go into the women's room. I'd never heard anybody making that argument before, and for me it conjured up images of ethnic cleansings, which always seem to make LGBT people of any ethnicity into part of their program. But through our interactions, he basically taught me how to countenance that level of disagreement without just completely imploding. He taught me how to joke and to laugh about these issues, without sacrificing their importance. And he taught me how to be friends with people who disagree with me, even on the really, really important things. For him, politics was very personal indeed, but never something to get in the way of a friendship. I can't count on anybody else to be that way, but I can certainly learn from his example, and I think that with time, maybe I can even set a similar example for others to follow. I will never meet another person of ziggy's singular character and unique quality, but I can try to learn from his example, and continue to make friends among the ranks of my so-called enemies, to treat their dissent from my positions with concern, respect, and a wicked sense of humor, no matter how personal those positions might be.

A few days before he passed, we arranged what was to be our first phone conversation. I ended up not making the call, for several reasons, none of which are good enough for me to feel anything but a very sad and heavy regret. I didn't contact him about missing the call or rescheduling it, either. I took it for granted that we would get another chance, so I just completely blew him off mere days before his disappearance. I flaked on my one and only chance to talk to one of the sweetest and most interesting and honorable people I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. I don't know if he would have been hurt by that or not, but purely for missing my only chance to talk to him, I regret it enormously. Tears well up in my eyes when I realize that I'll never get that chance again. There are few things that I truly wish with all my heart that I could go back and do differently, and this is one of them...


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Re: zappaisgod has passed away [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23437082 - 07/13/16 06:27 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

You don't have to regret anything.  :hug:

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Re: zappaisgod has passed away [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23437408 - 07/13/16 09:18 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Perhaps he is around but wants the shroomery to think he isn't. He told me numerous times "the shroomery members you meet irl are so out of character, the ones you meet that seem like assholes turn out to be so nice, and the ones who seem nice can turn out to be so weird."

I don't read the pub much. Obviously. I would have good reason to believe though if ZIG was trolled by a shroomerite irl that he'd want the entire shroomery to think he no longer existed. Also, I'm not sure if his wife was ever fond of the web site. I had plans to meet up with him in Manhatten if I ever took a trip to NY. I always end up going back and forth to Texas or to see family in the NorthWest. I just never make it out to New York. Otherwise though I'd still love to see him there.

I hope he is well and this is just a mistake :peace:


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Re: Zappaisgod passed away (I'm serious) [Re: shLong]
    #23437412 - 07/13/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

shLong said:
Quote:

Enjoywho said:
Anyone know how he passed yet?  I'm curious.



We're never going to know.. Sorry.

A heart issue or similar are a safe bet, however.




Indeed, we may never know.


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Re: Zappaisgod passed away (I'm serious) [Re: imachavel]
    #23437787 - 07/13/16 12:34 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

A god does not simply pass away :tmckenna:


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Re: zappaisgod has passed away [Re: shLong]
    #23570561 - 08/23/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I hope it isn't too much trouble bumping an old thread, but I just wanted to add that I remember ZappaisGod and some of the discussions we had real fondly. Ive been missing him since Ive returned to the Shroomery a couple weeks ago, and its a bummer to have just heard. I bought "Sheik Yerbouti" on CD years ago mostly because I was enamored with ZappaisGod's profile and wanted to listen to what he liked. The collection has only grown, but I think I am going to see if I can't find that CD. Rock on buddy, may you always have someone to argue with.


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