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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23381165 - 06/25/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I dont know though. i just cant see it...




Then a higher dose or a different psychedelic. I remember it took me about 13 or 14 mushroom trips to REALLY get it and see death clearly is not the end. I was shown evidence. I am an extreme skeptic btw but even that wasn't enough for psilocybin.

IME the 2 main lessons from mushrooms are that "Humans know nothing" and death is not the end and it's such an overly human view to think that is. The only thing that tricks us into thinking "death is the end of it all" is our biology because that's its job. Our biology's job is to make us think when we die it's over but the only thing that's over when you "die" is your biology. Your biology isn't there to make you happy or give you enlightenment it's there to keep you from dying.
Once you take a proper mushroom/DMT trip to the point where you can see past your biological conditioning you will know this.

There is no end to any of this.



I would like to do dmt.

ok so this awareness that exists when we die... Where is it? is it still in our physical bodys or is it just floating in the breeze so to speak?


Can you explain the evidence you have seen etc? I just still dont really get it. I have pondered this idea for years and i always just come back to the conclusion of when we die our consciousness is ceased to exist. I know you probably feel like your talking to a brick wall but some further explanation would be good!


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: Bigfeely123] * 1
    #23381168 - 06/25/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I don't know you'd make that conclusion considering LSD and mushrooms are MUCH more of a mind bender than weed.




I know but at the end of the day I still know that I'm probably right...and I think you know that..

I have seen this countless times and it was never solely because of the LSD, shrooms, 2C-B etc. it was always because that person would continue to smoke pot and drag themselves into that trippy mindset.

People who take psychedelics but don't smoke weed never really have this problem unless they use a ton. It's the weed man.


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: Rainman13] * 1
    #23381190 - 06/25/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I would like to do dmt.

ok so this awareness that exists when we die... Where is it? is it still in our physical bodys or is it just floating in the breeze?


Can you explain the evidence you have seen etc? I just still dont really get it. I have pondered this idea for years and i always just come back to the conclusion of when we die our consciousness is ceased to exist. I know you probably feel like your talking to a brick wall but some further explanation would be good!




Well I haven't done DMT yet but I still got this realization from mushrooms. It just showed me how primitive that idea you have is; that once the brain shuts off consciousness ceases to exist. It just peddled at me how utterly stupid and child-like that idea is. I don't know how to really explain it because I cannot take higher dimensional knowledge and download it into this lower reality. There are no words.

Mushrooms took me to the waiting place between life and death, it's hard to explain how you know this. It proved this to me because it showed me magic was real among other things as well as the soul and its eternal nature. You can feel its eternal nature. You just haven't gone deep enough.

Also just the fact that you can even have an experience like this, even if it's just a hallucination of a drug experience it's still..happening and you're still seeing and feeling this stuff and this experience should be impossible. You come to a point where it doesn't even matter if what you're experiencing is real or not because you still experience it...

Look past your biological conditioning. Study biology more then take a higher dose of mushrooms. I have a feeling you've just forgotten what it's like.

"ok so this awareness that exists when we die... Where is it?"

Beneath the ego. And yes the ego is another biological trick (mechanism) put in place NOT to make you happy or knowledgeable but to keep the whole show of life going because that's biology's only job.


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23381223 - 06/25/16 03:49 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Bigfeely123 said:
I don't know you'd make that conclusion considering LSD and mushrooms are MUCH more of a mind bender than weed.




I know but at the end of the day I still know that I'm probably right...and I think you know that..

I have seen this countless times and it was never solely because of the LSD, shrooms, 2C-B etc. it was always because that person would continue to smoke pot and drag themselves into that trippy mindset.

People who take psychedelics but don't smoke weed never really have this problem unless they use a ton. It's the weed man.




So... when did you conduct these highly elaborate scientific experiments you speak of and how long did it take to reach this conclusion?

I can safely assume, without making an ass out of myself, that more than half of the people who use psychedelics probably (probably being an understatement) use pot.


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: Bigfeely123] * 1
    #23381227 - 06/25/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It's the weed dude.


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 1
    #23381233 - 06/25/16 03:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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...and I think you know that..





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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23381275 - 06/25/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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AuroraBorealis88 said:
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Bigfeely123 said:
I don't know you'd make that conclusion considering LSD and mushrooms are MUCH more of a mind bender than weed.




I know but at the end of the day I still know that I'm probably right...and I think you know that..

I have seen this countless times and it was never solely because of the LSD, shrooms, 2C-B etc. it was always because that person would continue to smoke pot and drag themselves into that trippy mindset.

People who take psychedelics but don't smoke weed never really have this problem unless they use a ton. It's the weed man.



I sort of agree with you here. I mean i dont personally know op so i cant say for certian this is his problem BUT i see where your coming from and weed can be
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Rainman13 said:

I would like to do dmt.

ok so this awareness that exists when we die... Where is it? is it still in our physical bodys or is it just floating in the breeze?


Can you explain the evidence you have seen etc? I just still dont really get it. I have pondered this idea for years and i always just come back to the conclusion of when we die our consciousness is ceased to exist. I know you probably feel like your talking to a brick wall but some further explanation would be good!




Well I haven't done DMT yet but I still got this realization from mushrooms. It just showed me how primitive that idea you have is; that once the brain shuts off consciousness ceases to exist. It just peddled at me how utterly stupid and child-like that idea is. I don't know how to really explain it because I cannot take higher dimensional knowledge and download it into this lower reality. There are no words.

Mushrooms took me to the waiting place between life and death, it's hard to explain how you know this. It proved this to me because it showed me magic was real among other things as well as the soul and its eternal nature. You can feel its eternal nature. You just haven't gone deep enough.

Also just the fact that you can even have an experience like this, even if it's just a hallucination of a drug experience it's still..happening and you're still seeing and feeling this stuff and this experience should be impossible. You come to a point where it doesn't even matter if what you're experiencing is real or not because you still experience it...

Look past your biological conditioning. Study biology more then take a higher dose of mushrooms. I have a feeling you've just forgotten what it's like.

"ok so this awareness that exists when we die... Where is it?"

Beneath the ego. And yes the ego is another biological trick (mechanism) put in place NOT to make you happy or knowledgeable but to keep the whole show of life going because that's biology's only job.



Your right i sort have forgotten what a good trip is like. It has been a while.

I still cant see what your saying though. I do see what you mean but i just dont see it... Ill get back to you if i am ever enlightened on the matter.

Whats every body elses take on this?


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: Rainman13]
    #23381307 - 06/25/16 04:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ok well I guess my question for you is how can you understand what I mean but not see what I'm saying?

Also I don't expect this to make sense because a lot of this disclosed knowledge is like I said just not explainable. Every single thing I said pertaining to biology was correct though, was it the part about biology that you didn't understand? Because that was the part of what I said that was actually factual. It all has to do with our biology, our biology trying to filter the way things really are and it does a damn good job at it. It's just that we're too stuck in our humanness to see that the ego is an illusion along with "death".

To me the idea that when you die it's "over" is simply far too human

Thus pertaining to biological conditioning. Most of your ideas you only hold because you are human. Once you strip away all your humanness they don't hold up. It's put there for biology. That's it.


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23381336 - 06/25/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

What i mean is I understand what you are saying but i don't agree with it. Because i have never experienced what you speak of.


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: Rainman13]
    #23381354 - 06/25/16 04:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Just because you haven't experienced something you disagree with it? Well that's just degrading everything. You're pretty much cutting yourself off at that point. You're sealing yourself away and putting up imaginary walls to make yourself feel better but there are no walls to be put up.


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23381379 - 06/25/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Just because you haven't experienced something you disagree with it? Well that's just degrading everything. You're pretty much cutting yourself off at that point. You're sealing yourself away and putting up imaginary walls to make yourself feel better but there are no walls to be put up.



:facepalm: What i mean is how can i agree with what your saying when i have never experinced what your saying?

Look dude your obviously on another level that i am not on... I just havent been there yet. How can you expect me to understand something so complex straight away from reading a few paragraphs.


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: Rainman13] * 1
    #23381393 - 06/25/16 04:37 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Look dude your obviously on another level that i am not on... I just havent been there yet. How can you expect me to understand something so complex straight away from reading a few paragraphs.




Because you have done psilocybin before. If you had never touched the stuff I can see how this would make absolutely no sense but your consciousness has already come in contact with the mushroom. I would assume you're just not listening to them because hell I never tried listening to them but their messages were too loud to ignore and they took me to places where this esoteric "knowledge" was almost common sense like second nature in a way. It's like that for the people I trip with too. I just don't get how anyone couldn't see it even if they tried.

Also I'm not asking you to agree. I'm asking you not to disagree though. You don't have to agree or disagree you just have to open up and really think about things.

It's almost impossible to really think about these things and see them for what they are when you have the ego in the way which is the problem.


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23381427 - 06/25/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Look dude your obviously on another level that i am not on... I just havent been there yet. How can you expect me to understand something so complex straight away from reading a few paragraphs.




Because you have done psilocybin before. If you had never touched the stuff I can see how this would make absolutely no sense but your consciousness has already come in contact with the mushroom. I would assume you're just not listening to them because hell I never tried listening to them but their messages were too loud to ignore and they took me to places where this esoteric "knowledge" was almost common sense like second nature in a way. It's like that for the people I trip with too. I just don't get how anyone couldn't see it even if they tried.

Also I'm not asking you to agree. I'm asking you not to disagree though. You don't have to agree or disagree you just have to open up and really think about things.

It's almost impossible to really think about these things and see them for what they are when you have the ego in the way which is the problem.



in the current state im in (Dead sober) i understand everything your sayng.  but right now i havent seen what you have seen or felt what you have felt so right now what i believe stands for me, because i have nothing else right now to reinforce that of which you are talking about right now.

Im not disregarding what you are saying by any means, if anything it has opened another door but im yet to enter it. You know where im coming from dude?


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: Rainman13]
    #23381450 - 06/25/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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if anything it has opened another door but im yet to enter it. You know where im coming from dude?




Yes I know what you're saying entirely. I'm just saying there's no real reason for you to agree or disagree only to ponder further.


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: Rainman13]
    #23381475 - 06/25/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ok i didnt really word that right before. Its not that i disagree with you its just that i hadnt gotten on that level yet. As we have already established.

AAANNNYYYYWAY.... I do want to eat mushrooms right now but im in a relationship right now and its sort of going down hill and it just doesnt feel right to trip right now.

about two years ago i ate some mushrooms around her. I didnt feel comfortable around her at all so i had to leave the house. The way things are i just know it would send me into a spiral of negative thoughts about it. Because i know the mushrooms will make all this very clear to me... I suppose there is no good time to end a relationship...


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: Rainman13]
    #23381891 - 06/25/16 07:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Well that feeling negative around her on mushrooms 2 years ago might have been a sign that it wasn't going in the right direction. I did shrooms about 2 1/2 years ago near my significant other who at the time was ignorant to the experience. She's come around now though.

I think there actually are "good" times to end a relationship in the sense that they are better than other times but I know what you mean.


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23381994 - 06/25/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yea.. I probably made it out worse than it actually is. Its not that bad actually. But one thing is for certian we are opposites. I smoke lots of weed but she doesnt. She actually hates the smell of it. She doesnt get the whole mushroom thing either.

We have our moments but most of the time its ok. I duno. I think this morning we were just having one of those moments.

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Well that feeling negative around her on mushrooms 2 years ago might have been a sign that it wasn't going in the right direction.




Yea well i dont think i should base my whole life on how i feel on my mushroom trips because they are like a roller coaster. I think i felt uncomfortable around her because she didnt really get it and i was just tripping lol.


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: GuruKhan]
    #23382415 - 06/25/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Doesn't sound crazy at all friend


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: NotRiley]
    #23382450 - 06/25/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Doesn't sound crazy at all friend



what do you mean


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Re: NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS [Re: NotRiley]
    #23382488 - 06/25/16 10:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

This kind of thinking is cool and all but in the real world you'll end up a hobo if you want to live by these kind of thoughts. Yeah it fucking sucks, it really does, but sadly it's not the way how life really is. You can of course make it your reality but I think as time goes on it's only going to harder and harder for these kind of "free spirited" people to live.


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