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colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question)
    #23376288 - 06/24/16 06:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

okay, so what im wondering is this.

does mycelium have a better time colonizing when it has a single standard temperature at all times? for instance, when kept in incubation.

or does mycelium have a better time colonizing when the temperature fluctuates on natures natural cycle of day/night?

The reason i ask is because ive been using a TiT for YEARS, and this is the first time ive ever really even thought NOT to use it. i have a little reptile heater running in the bottom of the closet i have my jars in, but it literally only raises about 3-4F at the most in that chamber. which i think is necessary in my cold ass mountain basement(averaging 65-71F).

however, my jars are now getting indirect sunlight all day, and run through a natural temp cycle. im wondering if this is truly the healthier route by scientific standards.

i mean i did a little peek and the jars i can see at the front are all colonizing nicely so far. and this is MS to WBS day 5. hopefully it keeps growing nicely. fingers are crossed haha.

anyway, per the questions; what do you guys think about the effect on colonization?


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23376293 - 06/24/16 06:54 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Just keep it room temp 68-72. 65-75 is just fine.


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23376307 - 06/24/16 07:01 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Just keep it room temp 68-72. 65-75 is just fine.




well yeah im planning to do exactly that. but what im wondering more so is how indirect light and a natural day/night temp cycle effects the growth of mycelium. where as i used to keep my jars in complete darkness with a 100% standard 76F temp. (sometimes higher, sometimes lower when testing, but it always kept its temp on point with the temp gauge running it.)

worded like this might be more on point as well...

does this indirect light and natural day/night temperature cycle have a direct benefit to mycelial growth? and if so, why?


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23376321 - 06/24/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

yes, a 12/12 light cycle is beneficial to the myc/mushrooms at all stages of growth. Mushrooms have a circadian rhythm like we do.

Oh, and im not sure about the "temp cycle" but fluctuating temps is normal. just like a fluctuating rh is normal. temps falling and climbing would change the rh and have it fluctuate, which is good during fruiting, so there's that.


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: mupetmower]
    #23376326 - 06/24/16 07:08 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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yes, a 12/12 light cycle is beneficial to the myc/mushrooms at all stages of growth. Mushrooms have a circadian rhythm like we do.




i was waiting for that word to come up, it was on the tip of my tongue lol. i was wondering if they had the same circadian rhythm as we did, in which case it is of course beneficial. good to know :smile: thanks buddy!


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23376331 - 06/24/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

:rockon:

sorry i dont know more.


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: mupetmower]
    #23376339 - 06/24/16 07:11 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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:rockon:

sorry i dont know more.




lol i doubt many here are real mycologists capable of answering all the  questions i have in a way that would scientifically prove everything i seem to want proven sometimes :p

but your simple answer here is more than i was looking for honestly. helps me understand the mycelium growth a little better. everything i can learn to help increase the odds of a good grow; im all for it.


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23376351 - 06/24/16 07:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

well, i think you'd be surprised. the TC's here, and a few others probably know more about psychedelic mushroom cultivation and biology than most "real mycologists" do.

only reason i was able to give that answer was from reading just a little of what they have said.


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: mupetmower]
    #23376359 - 06/24/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

the light cycle is more important then the temps, but you do want a steadyish temp , no drastic temp swings but a few degrees won't hurt anything, it is more of an issue with grains anyway.


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: mupetmower]
    #23376366 - 06/24/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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:rockon:

sorry i dont know more.



well, i think you'd be surprised. the TC's here, and a few others probably know more about psychedelic mushroom cultivation and biology than most "real mycologists" do.

only reason i was able to give that answer was from reading just a little of what they have said.




actually youre probably right. while ive been doing this hobby for quite a while myself, i never got into the agar or LC, or any of the advanced stuff i had always wanted to try. its only now that im finally deciding to sort of take that leap and learn more about everything so i can learn as much as possible and grow with confidence each and every time. i also need to start agar like immediately when my grains full colonize!

a lot of the TC's and other veteran members here seem to have delved in ALL parts of this hobby from one end to the other, and im sure they know more about the inner working of this stuff than anyone who simply went to college and read a few books!


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: cronicr]
    #23376371 - 06/24/16 07:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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the light cycle is more important then the temps, but you do want a steadyish temp , no drastic temp swings but a few degrees won't hurt anything, it is more of an issue with grains anyway.




ah ok good to know as well, thank you. so the reptile heater set to a sensor gauge to manage around 72-74 would probably be best then im assuming.

sorry for double post woops. usually hit edit like this time.


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23376388 - 06/24/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

if it is above 64F in your house/room then i would just not use the heater.


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: mupetmower]
    #23376397 - 06/24/16 07:27 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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if it is above 64F in your house/room then i would just not use the heater.




i mean yeah for the most part. it can drop to 56-58 at the lowest end sometimes at night. which is what i dont like. i could just run it at night only. maybe makes the best sense in this situation.


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23376405 - 06/24/16 07:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

oh wow. then yeah maybe you do want it. is it possible to heat the entire room to at least 68F, instead of just where they are? that would be more ideal.


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: mupetmower]
    #23376411 - 06/24/16 07:31 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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oh wow. then yeah maybe you do want it. is it possible to heat the entire room to at least 68F, instead of just where they are? that would be more ideal.




of course. thats what my wife suggested actually lol. i have a few space heaters sitting around. i could just move one in there for the nights. leave it on low to start and see how it effects the temps.

i dont know what it is about living elevated, but it can get nice and hot during the day when the sun is beating down through all the windows. but as soon as night comes around, it gets fucking cold. and all the wind up here doesnt help either im sure :p


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23376415 - 06/24/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

i would rather have that, over just heating the area the stuff is in.


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: mupetmower]
    #23376424 - 06/24/16 07:34 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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i would rather have that, over just heating the area the stuff is in.




ill try that then. cant hurt. ill obviously keep it regulated so i dont end up with something stupid like 90 degrees because the heating element decided to crap out and overheat to shit... which happened to a buddy of mine a while back ;p


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Re: colonization difference at single standard temp or fluctuating day/night temps(question) [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23376442 - 06/24/16 07:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

then it would definitely be better to heat the room, away from the stuff then right next to it =p


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