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Re: Money [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #23386049 - 06/26/16 10:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I've seen third world poverty and it's more expansive in comparison but that doesn't mean poverty doesn't exist in America either.


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The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development's 5th Annual Homeless Assessment Report to Congress estimated that 1.56 million people, or one in every 200 Americans, experienced homelessness and found shelter between October 1, 2008 and September 30, 2009




It's sounds to me like you're comparing corporate or resource loyalty to love.


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Re: Money [Re: sudly]
    #23386064 - 06/26/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

No. If you feed a starving person they will feel genuine affection for you...you helped them to live...this is not ignored and a valuable quality where resources are scarce. It is ALSO love...the real deal. If you save a persons life they may end up loving you for it...very simple. Fat Americans and Europeans have the luxury to explore "true and untarnished ideas" which are really so much fancy bullshit. Forget notions of true love that require only acceptance. Humans don't really do that..they just talk about it like this thread does. By the way in the US one can ask for help and get it. I have been as poor (distant past) as one can get in the U.S. and I am humbled by third world poverty.


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Re: Money [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #23386107 - 06/26/16 11:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

If someone is in a desperate situation and they're starving then I'm sure you can buy appreciation but that doesn't signify selfless love from the hungry people.

You can care about someone without being in love with them. 
Doctors save people's lives, that doesn't mean the patients who's lives were saved will love their doctors.

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Forget notions of true love that require only acceptance. Humans don't really do that..they just talk about it like this thread does.



Acceptance? Do you mean empathy, compassion or sympathy? Because they're all different.


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Re: Money [Re: sudly]
    #23386273 - 06/27/16 12:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

The world is in total crisis.

Total crisis, a kind of painful age not seen before.

We go one of two ways from here.

These is the darkest age. The darkest. Much worse than the actual Dark Ages.

Either total bliss and light or total annihilation.

You need to realise if you have comfort, food, water, education, internet, you're in like a class of 3% of the world population.

90% of that 3% is brainwashed and apathetic.

Where do you stand?

What are YOU going to do about it?

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By the way if we're having the same thoughts on these forums it's because we're all connected.


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Re: Money [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23386320 - 06/27/16 01:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I think our society is somewhere in between a utopia and a dystopia as I agree that we have a polarised world. 

Unless a nuclear war destroyed most of the worlds technology and all atheists died, we're not going back into conditions similar to that of those in the Dark Ages.

I try not to take my opportunity to live in modern society for granted, I appreciate modern living.

I stand with getting money out of politics with an amendment to overturn 'Citizens United'.    @WOLFPAC.COM

That way funds can be better spent on societies needs rather than on billionaires and war mongering weapons manufacturers.


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Re: Money [Re: sudly]
    #23386461 - 06/27/16 03:03 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

A rainforest is a much better home than your apartment, or what have you, if you have the eyes to see.

The consciousness to see...

Frequencies...

Really all we are doing in modern life is behaving like machines, and doing self-maintenance.

No really.


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Re: Money [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23386490 - 06/27/16 03:33 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Rain forest environments are cool too.

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beforethedawn said: Really all we are doing in modern life is behaving like machines, and doing self-maintenance.




Humans really are just skin covered sacks of meat and bone with electrically conductive innards that act in a similar fashion to how an organic computer would.


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Re: Money [Re: sudly]
    #23386573 - 06/27/16 04:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Hmm, bit of a disconnection with your other previously stated idea?

The body is not 'real', it is part of the environment, the environment is imagination.

The mind can easily turn the body into what it wants it to be, within limits.


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Re: Money [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23388076 - 06/27/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I think emotions like love are the 'software' of humans as I see us as organic computers.

The body is the 'hardware' of a human and when it dies it will rot into the environment and become fertiliser.

Exercise can get you healthy and people can wear clothes but it's incredibly far fetched of you to suggest humans can go through some sort of mentally originated metamorphosis.

What you're describing is called imagination.


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Re: Money [Re: sudly]
    #23388309 - 06/27/16 04:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

get a good job with more pay and you're ok as floyd said


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Re: Money [Re: bass head]
    #23388331 - 06/27/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

:doublefacepalm:


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Re: Money [Re: sudly]
    #23388592 - 06/27/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Wrong...you think but I know...love as a fanciful notion is a fairy tale. The reality is that love is a deal...you give this and I give that...we agree to do this or renegotiate...or split. This is love. All of the noble values you associate with it are part of the agreement made...like respect, understanding...those are just arrangements we make. If your partner breaks the arrangement you split. This does not make it less...survival is the rule and if someone helps you with that, and you reciprocate then it is love. Why is that bad?


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Re: Money [Re: Huehuecoyotl] * 1
    #23388657 - 06/27/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said: The reality is that love is a deal...you give this and I give that...we agree to do this or renegotiate...or split. This is love. All of the noble values you associate with it are part of the agreement made...like respect, understanding...those are just arrangements we make.




Love is a form of giving without expectation of return.
What you're talking about does not sound like that.


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Re: Money [Re: sudly]
    #23389454 - 06/27/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Disagree big time.

Love is what there is without fear.

Love trumps fear.

Fear is what creates all this violence.

We've actually made the truth 'tiresome',

tiresome

BECAUSE WE DON'T LISTEN NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES AN INCARNATION TELLS US!

If you act on violence, without doubt, without fear, you will totally dominate.


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Re: Money [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23390061 - 06/28/16 05:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)



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