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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23372986 - 06/23/16 09:06 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Where can I get a rocket launcher?




Readily available via the black market, that's the whole point of the thread. Come on Fal  :usa:


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Maroon]
    #23373016 - 06/23/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm asking for proof. Are you not familiar with burden of proof. You made some claims, you must prove them .


My claim is any prohibition of any item has proven time and time again to increase unregulated trade is said item, making it harder to manage and control. It also increases surrounding crimes.

So is this what we really think solves the issue?




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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Maroon] * 1
    #23373431 - 06/23/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Again all of you are ignoring this one simple fact;

All prohibition increases unregulated markets. This will increase unregulated gun sales and associated crimes. Is this what we think solves the issues at hand?




and again, no one is seriously proposing a blanket ban on guns.


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Glameow] * 1
    #23373915 - 06/23/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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All prohibition increases unregulated markets.



rocket launchers aren't that easy to access in the US black market.



Can you guys provide proof for your claims that's it's harder to get rocket launchers in certain markets. Thanks
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I'm asking for proof. Are you not familiar with burden of proof. You made some claims, you must prove them.

My claim is any prohibition of any item has proven time and time again to increase unregulated trade is said item



Exactly, so it's actually you that needs to prove your claim.  That's exactly why I asked where I can find rocket launchers.


Yes, I am familiar with 'burden of proof', but are you familiar with 'proving a negative'?

The best I can do to prove there are no places where rocket launchers are easy to get is to tell you that I am unaware of any such places.  That's why I asked where rocket launchers are easy to get.  If you answer the question, you prove your point.


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23374214 - 06/23/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

DAAAAAAAMNNN

:thatsaten:


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23374302 - 06/23/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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That's exactly why I asked where I can find rocket launchers.






Took me about 10 seconds on google.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/566128252


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Enlil]
    #23374312 - 06/23/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Here is an inert M72 LAW Rocket Launcher tube.




it also states that it can be shipped to your door (non FFL), this is a toy.

this is about the same as using the fact they sell grenades at ArmyNavy to argue here.


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: airclay]
    #23374353 - 06/23/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

It was actually an accurate response to the question. It is not a 'toy'.


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: airclay]
    #23374627 - 06/23/16 06:03 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

It's not a toy at all.  If you get a live round, it will fire it.  Rocket launchers are easy to get.  Rockets are a bit harder.


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Enlil]
    #23374776 - 06/23/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Guns and Drugs are two completely different things.

A gun is an instrument of death, a tool designed with the purpose to kill and end life.

Drugs (Psychoactives) are a tool to alter a persons state of sobriety temporarily.

In general they make people feel good, relaxed, less tensed, they satisfy a very natural curiosity that's ingrained in us and ultimately if any harm is to be caused it only harms the person taking the drugs (directly/physically). At worst, you OD and die. Your mistake, your life taken.

There's a much bigger demand for drugs than there is for guns. Most people don't have a dying urge to murder people and living things, but we do have a strong curiosity and desire to alter our sobriety. Supply and Demand.

It makes no sense whatsoever to prohibit drugs. It's tyrannical to tell an adult they cannot do something with their own bodies, yet countries like the USA deem it perfectly ok to sell people instruments of murder that can kill lots of people in very little time.

Where is the sense in that?

Drugs prohibition and Guns prohibition are very different beasts. It's actually laughable to think the USA wants to jail people for smoking a blunt but lets you walk around with an assault weapon without hassle.

Restrict guns. Tightly. Legalise drugs.

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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: YeOlde]
    #23375013 - 06/23/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

THen explain to me where your awareness impacts this issue.


We have millions of examples of prohibiting items increasing unregulated trading making it harder to control said prohibited item

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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Enlil]
    #23375094 - 06/23/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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It's not a toy at all.  If you get a live round, it will fire it.  Rocket launchers are easy to get.  Rockets are a bit harder.





I really hope this is tongue in cheek facetiousness


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: airclay]
    #23375103 - 06/23/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

He asked for a launcher...not the ammo.


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Enlil]
    #23375224 - 06/23/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

gotdammit

if I told you I was hungry you'd reply w "hi hungry, I'm enlil" huh?


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: airclay]
    #23375243 - 06/23/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

fuck the "justice" system.


fuck the "health care" system.


and fuck giving illegal aliens any benefits or aid.  We cant take care of our veterans or our elderly but we will fucking help refugees and illegal aliens? 

its law makers and politicians that need killing.  not innocent people for Christs sake, shoot the people who have it coming.  get a clue.  god damn


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: airclay] * 1
    #23375389 - 06/23/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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gotdammit

if I told you I was hungry you'd reply w "hi hungry, I'm enlil" huh?



"Hungry" is an adjective.  I know the difference between an adjective and a proper noun.  I do have a doctorate, after all.


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Enlil]
    #23375720 - 06/24/16 12:18 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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That's exactly why I asked where I can find rocket launchers.






Took me about 10 seconds on google.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/566128252



As airclay noted, I think it was implied we were talking about a complete set (launcher and rocket).

Regardless, I assume that is for a legal purchase.  Now can anyone tell me where I can get a rocket launcher on the black market?  Is it easier or more difficult?


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23375778 - 06/24/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

If you have the money you can buy human boys and girls let alone rocket launchers. If you have the money you can have someone killed too. So easy depends on your $

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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23375846 - 06/24/16 01:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

No one is saying you can't get those things.  The question is whether making them illegal makes them more difficult to obtain.


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Re: We know alcohol prohibition fails, drug prohibition fails, so what about gun prohibition? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23375908 - 06/24/16 02:25 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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its law makers and politicians that need killing.  not innocent people for Christs sake, shoot the people who have it coming.  get a clue.  god damn




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