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Offlinebotaanik
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beginners growkits
    #2337510 - 02/15/04 03:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Hello!

I'm new to mushroom cultivation. I have read much about every thing about mushrooms & their cultivation on the net(theres still more reading to do). I thought, I'll start with some good growkit. But theres so many different shops selling very different kind of kits. I'm asking that what kind growkit you recomand to beginner? The growkit name is welcome and the shop whos selling it. I don't know if this is aginst this forum guidelines(if it is then PM me!). It could be already set growkit or some package to start my mushroom cultivation.

by best whises
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Re: beginners growkits [Re: botaanik]
    #2337609 - 02/15/04 04:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Follow PF Tek, forget grow kit they are ripoff's


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: botaanik]
    #2337624 - 02/15/04 04:09 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I agree, I'd just get a syringe and make your own jars and stuff. PF is pretty easy to follow, and you don't need that many ingredients to do a basic first grow.


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: CrazyJulio]
    #2337635 - 02/15/04 04:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

here's a link to the cheapest growkits I know of. www.mycobag.com

They work very well. Take a look at the grain bags.

If you are a first time grower, it is often cheaper to buy some spores and mycobags than it is to buy all the stuff you need to do it yourself.


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: Rose]
    #2337997 - 02/15/04 05:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Take cervantes advice...:grin:

he's good people.


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: simplemachine]
    #2338112 - 02/15/04 06:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

grow kits dont give u any harvest
total rip off in my mind


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: floating_green_elf]
    #2338142 - 02/15/04 06:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

mycobags really aren't a grow kit. It's a presterilized bag of grain with a filter patch to shoot through. Totally different than a 4 jars and some rye for fifty bucks kit that is just throwing away money.

A cased mycobag will give you the same yeild as if you made it yourself. Hell a jar someone makes and sells you will produce as much as one you make yourself.

If you don't know what you are doing you will get a small yield. kit or no kit. The problem is that most kits are not only a rip-off but also come with poorly written instructions. Mycobag however is a reputable company with a representitave on the boards to answer questions.

Oh yah and you can shake spawn bags so they colonize a large amount of substrate quickly.


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: floating_green_elf]
    #2338145 - 02/15/04 06:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I bought a grow kit from a UK site for ?24 and got over 30 dry grams from it. Now, since I trip infrequently that is plenty for me at a cost cheaper than a good saturday night out! I passed many of the shrooms onto my friends who gladly received them for nothing. Obviously it would also be possible to take a sporeprint and grow them from scratch had I wanted, using one the many methods. So the kit I got was very good value.


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: Wilf]
    #2338199 - 02/15/04 06:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

My friend saw similar results from his mycobags. 15-30g dry per bag. The lowest yeilds came from my friend's first attempts.

Really, a pressure cooker is the best investment you could make. But, if you aren't sure you want to committ to mycology, it is a big investment. So are the jars, substrate, incubation and fruiting chambers.

Especially considering mycobags are self contained, sterile terrariums.

My friend even left his bags in the light 24-7 so he could watch 'em grow. And, they colonize very quickly, once you get used to crushing the bags to mix the myc with the substrate.


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: botaanik]
    #2339399 - 02/16/04 01:13 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

All a grow kit is, is a bunch of stuff from walmart. When i first started i bought it myself, its much better than a so called "kit"


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: DieCommie]
    #2339874 - 02/16/04 03:40 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

First time I've been growing I bought a grow-kit from
www.azarius.com for 40 euro and I had 3/4 flushes (25 g
dried Mushi).
I think that if you
are not sure you want to get into mycology, it could be a
good choice :wink:


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: Mex]
    #2339964 - 02/16/04 04:38 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

There is a huge difference between European and American grow kits. If you are in the USA, stick with mycobags... or do it yourself.


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: Mex]
    #2340062 - 02/16/04 05:58 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Me and my friend bought one of those. Both got heavilly infected  :crazy:. We will be recieving 2 new kits in the mail soon, but I don't have great hopes for it ... I also have a sporeprint from fsre.org I only need a Presure Cooker and I'm done (80 euro's though  :frown: )


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: botaanik]
    #2340350 - 02/16/04 09:51 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I think that www.fsre.org sells both prints and mycobags, for each $2. That seems like a good deal, you just need to send them an envelope that can fit it.


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: obfuscatelesol]
    #2340870 - 02/16/04 01:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I thought about it and I think I'll follow the PF tek. Question about PF tek: do I need presure cooker or can I just let them "boil" in hot water 1.5h like PF tek told. Any tips/tricks or can I pass this one?!? I think I want to commit myself to mycolgy! I like to grow plants and herbs. I have growed few years some good cannabis plants and now some Peruvina torches. And what kind of mushroom you reccomand to beginner(best growth, cold shock, any other attribute). I think about Psilocybe Cubensis "Equador" are good for beginner or. And what special recuirments any this or your recommanded strain needs.

thanks


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: botaanik]
    #2340943 - 02/16/04 02:08 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Just starting out you will be fine with just boiling them. Put like a wash cloth on the bottome so the jars don't get too hot. I would recommend any cubensis. B+ produces decent size fruits and are easy to fruit. EQ is another good strain. They will both work fine on the PF tek.

Good luck on your first grow.


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: botaanik]
    #2341800 - 02/16/04 05:01 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

PF tek works fine. You may have to make your jars more than once. You may fuck 'em up your first time. Don't worry, many do.

A pc is better'n boiling but PF Tek works.... no sense in buying a PC until you're sure you'll get your money's worth. Do not boil anything larger than half pints. Bigger jars need a pc.

As for spores, Cubes are all easy to grow. Instead of getting EQ or B+ like every other n00b, why not get a cube that looks cool or is from a region that interests you. You'll enjoy growing them more this way.

Make sure you save some spores, so if you do fuck up, you can try again without re-ordering.

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Re: beginners growkits [Re: botaanik]
    #2341883 - 02/16/04 05:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

when you order the mycobags w/out substrate in them, how are they closed? Is a specialized tool needed for this?


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: botaanik]
    #2342244 - 02/16/04 06:29 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Here is my advice on the old pf tek...

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1

Hope that helps out botaanik! you can pm me if you have any questions.


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Re: beginners growkits [Re: swizzol]
    #2342379 - 02/16/04 06:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You can use an impule sealer, or tape. If you are ghetto, you could use clothes pins or paper clips.


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