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Offlinewayfaytoolive23
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    #23375003 - 06/23/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I inoculated some jars today i wiped the niddle tip with a alcoholpad
And then flamed the niddle it like spirited and made like a poping noise
Is that normal pls help


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Re: help [Re: wayfaytoolive23]
    #23375011 - 06/23/16 07:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

yeah. the needle was hot.
that's why we depress the plunger very carefully. Get one drop out, and it's ready to use.


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Re: help [Re: dankington]
    #23375016 - 06/23/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I was just triping out so thats normal so what your saying is for next time
Let a very small drop out and then the rest


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Re: help [Re: wayfaytoolive23]
    #23375086 - 06/23/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I was just triping out so thats normal so what your saying is for next time
Let a very small drop out and then the rest




what he was saying was after you heat the needle barely push the needle so a little lc will come out which results in the needle cooling down.


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Re: help [Re: Canc3r_Dav3]
    #23375112 - 06/23/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks guys that helped alot


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Re: help [Re: wayfaytoolive23]
    #23375117 - 06/23/16 08:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

no prob, good luck on your grow :smile:


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Re: help [Re: Canc3r_Dav3]
    #23375403 - 06/23/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

it's just because the needle had spore liquid in and the heat caused the pressure to rise, with the stopper in the syringe not letting it go backwards, resulted in it pooting out the needle ("science" (no problem))

i would definately still/just make sure you go through the dry verm layer and let it drip down the sides though,

like considering we are causing spores "thermal death" in the needle, i don't really see how squirting more out is going to be of much help as 1)you are prolonging the time the needle can come into contact with pathogens and 2)you would be achieving the same cooling effect (presumably..) whilst increasing the amount of spores available when going through the dry verm / squirting right where you want the spores to go... (with less time for #1).


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Re: help [Re: stupididiot]
    #23376516 - 06/24/16 07:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

What are you on about? That's why we use as little spore solution as possible. Flaming the needle and squeezing out a drop as it hisses and sputters is part of proper sterile technique.


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Re: help [Re: dankington]
    #23376733 - 06/24/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

umm definitely squirt a little bit out to cool the needle down. personally i forgot once(too stoned off a dab or 4 i took beforehand) and i stuck the needle right into the polyfil, still red hot lol. polyfil melted all over the needle. i just flamed it back off and let it cool so i dont think there was much damage done, but still; not ideal.


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Re: help [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23376743 - 06/24/16 09:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

squirting a drop or two out to cool the needle will be much faster than waiting for it to cool on it's own. which means it give less time for it to sit there after flame and before inoc.

like dank said, its just a part of good sterile technique, and the hissing is normal.


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Re: help [Re: mupetmower]
    #23377473 - 06/24/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

relatively speaking; how is squirting a bit out into the ambient air, any difference from squirting a bit out into the ambient temperatured mycelium food ?.

please ?


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Re: help [Re: stupididiot]
    #23377487 - 06/24/16 01:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Because the red hot needle can kill spores (in theory) But there are so many it probably doesn't matter... By why chance it...


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Re: help [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23377504 - 06/24/16 01:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

???

i will rephrase in that case:

what is the difference between dead spores on your carpet, and sterile dead spores in the mycelium food (worse case scenario)

??

(again baring in mind, if you are squirting things away, into the air, you are increasing the chances of bacterial spores landing on the needle ?)

(....please don't answer with "you squirt them down" "i use a SAB" etc; that is not answering the question)

??


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Re: help [Re: stupididiot]
    #23377520 - 06/24/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Because spores aren't sterile, you would just invite more contams. Less is better with spores. Do what you want, though.


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Re: help [Re: stupididiot]
    #23377551 - 06/24/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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stupididiot said:
???

i will rephrase in that case:

what is the difference between dead spores on your carpet, and sterile dead spores in the mycelium food (worse case scenario)

??

(again baring in mind, if you are squirting things away, into the air, you are increasing the chances of bacterial spores landing on the needle ?)

(....please don't answer with "you squirt them down" "i use a SAB" etc; that is not answering the question)

??



Ohhhhhhh... You don't HAVE to cool the needle first at all really... That is more for if you are doing agar because you only need one drop, so you don't want to chance that one drop being 50% burnt spores.


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Re: help [Re: stupididiot]
    #23377568 - 06/24/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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stupididiot said:
???

i will rephrase in that case:

what is the difference between dead spores on your carpet, and sterile dead spores in the mycelium food (worse case scenario)





with a red hot needle, you might as well be shooting blanks, so -just liquid.. and if you made your substrate to field capacity, more liquid could negatively affect your moisture content. especially for those using pf jars.


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Re: help [Re: desr]
    #23377704 - 06/24/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

what is the needle capacity ? (vs the "tank")

like 0.1 ml or something ?


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Re: help [Re: desr]
    #23377736 - 06/24/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

The amount of Extra solution is negligible...


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Re: help [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23378033 - 06/24/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Am I the only one that finds the OP funny? Seriously, :ilold:


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Re: help [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23378039 - 06/24/16 04:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

haha yeah i did too.

like... what else could that have been besides normal.

I can actually sorta imagine OP, flaming his needle and hearing the hiss and freaking out haha


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