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Marty Mycfly
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Prickley Pear cactus subtrate
#23373939 - 06/23/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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So I read in Growing Gourmet And Medicinal Mushrooms by Paul Stamets that Prickley Pear, Agave, and suagoro cactus supplemented 20% can be used for plearotus Ostreatus. I have been searching for an agricultural waste that is 100% free to me. I have an unlimited amount of prickley pear waste and fresh prickley pear, the only thing is that Stamets is very vague about this and gives no explanation on how to prepare this, dried I assume. Any of you guys read, heard, or have used cactus? Also on an interesting note, Stamets states that there is actually an oyster that is native to these three cactus's called Pleurotus Opuntiae. Anyone ever cultivated this species before? I plan on trying out the prickley pear with amycel 3015 spawn, but also have another grey oyster I will try too. For now, unless I get any new info, I think I am going to de needle fresh prickley pear paddles and sun dry them,crush the dry paddles then add the supplements and wet it by feel, load into filter patch bags and sterilize.
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23373982 - 06/23/16 02:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hmmm, I'm no plant expert, but I do grow cacti.
What are those cacti growing in? If in a sandy substrate, they will not do much at a guess. Cacti grow in very low nutrient substrates in harsh conditions naturally.
Not against the idea, maybe it does work as an additive, dry. If its high in P-K-Zn, then it should work.
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Marty Mycfly
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: Ferather]
#23374146 - 06/23/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I live in the southwest US, they grow every where like weeds, even out of your gutters, roofs, you see them growing way up on palm trees,they are literally everywhere ready for your taking, dead and alive. I am just going to try a few bags of it first with a standard 20% supplemented as base to start and go from there. Ferather, have you ever heard of that oyster that grows on cacti?
Edited by Marty Mycfly (06/23/16 03:26 PM)
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23374163 - 06/23/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Also the thing about prickley pear, is it must have some sort of good nutrition, we eat it here in mexican dishes called napalitos, and it is a staple food source in the Sonoran desert.
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23374461 - 06/23/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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went to grand canyon last fall... everything was prickly pear this and prickly pear that... seemed like every food was laced with it so it must be nutritious. Id never heard of it before that. I know this doesnt help but... whatever
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: SpinScratch]
#23374674 - 06/23/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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SpinScratch said: went to grand canyon last fall... everything was prickly pear this and prickly pear that... seemed like every food was laced with it so it must be nutritious. Id never heard of it before that. I know this doesnt help but... whatever
Those are the fruits, everybody goes ape shit about them around here, they will buy anything if it says prickley pear on it. It may be a good selling point though for my region if the substrate turns out.
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23375082 - 06/23/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes! This idea popped up on my radar months ago. Glad to see you're looking into it. What kind of place are you getting your supply?
Edit. http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/3030/2
High in fiber and minerals
Edited by MorePies (06/23/16 08:15 PM)
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: MorePies]
#23375306 - 06/23/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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MorePies said: Yes! This idea popped up on my radar months ago. Glad to see you're looking into it. What kind of place are you getting your supply?
Edit. http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/3030/2
High in fiber and minerals
Well, my first hoard of it is right here in my ally, and all along my ally, everybody chops it when it gets out of hand and throws it behind their fences and then it ends up growing from where they threw, it's an incredibly strong cactus, Its EVERYWHERE dead and alive, I plan on taking some nice fresh ones out back that look like they have produced fruits and deneedle the paddles and slice them and dry them on my shed roof, this should only take a few days, and then it will crush up super easy.
Edited by Marty Mycfly (06/23/16 09:35 PM)
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23375337 - 06/23/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey guys, I found a few photos Pleurotus Opuntiae growing naturally on prickly pear

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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23375362 - 06/23/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have friends who frequent Baja and have seen reishi and pleurotus growing on cacti. I have not seen it but just thought I would mention it.
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23376034 - 06/24/16 04:13 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Marty Mycfly said: Hey guys, I found a few photos Pleurotus Opuntiae growing naturally on prickly pear


awesome. Where in the SW? I lived in Santa Fe for awhile- the land of entrapment, lol- can't stay away from the beauty of the high dessert.
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: TravelAgency]
#23376123 - 06/24/16 05:24 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amazing find! Well done, had a quick look around, didn't find much. Well thats working, nice. Needs testing now.
Good luck mate.
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Marty Mycfly
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: Ferather]
#23378014 - 06/24/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ferather said: Amazing find! Well done, had a quick look around, didn't find much. Well thats working, nice. Needs testing now.
Good luck mate.
Collecting paddles today and have a jar of amycel 3015 to inoculate it with, I'm going to be photo documenting the whole thing in case it works out. This is my first real experiment, I have been growing mushrooms by the books for a few years now, which is the best way to success, but I am having an itch to experiment a little right now.
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23380950 - 06/25/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good luck and watch out for the stickers on those things.
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Marty Mycfly
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: MorePies]
#23381011 - 06/25/16 02:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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MorePies said: Good luck and watch out for the stickers on those things.
Yeah they suck, the big older paddles are WAY easier to deal with. I also have a huge "trunk" of one I found yesterday walking through my ally, no stickers on those parts and the picture of the mushroom growing from one seems to show it forming from a piece like that. I'm going to make two subs to try, one from dried paddles and one from the thick trunks.
Edited by Marty Mycfly (06/25/16 02:33 PM)
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: Marty Mycfly]
#23381719 - 06/25/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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If you live in the SW sure your aware of the thornless variety bred by the late and great Luther Burbank. It would probably be fair bit easier to deal with I would imagine.
Thank you for digging up this pic of the oyster fruiting from opuntia. I also saw that quote about it in Paul stamets book and have been highly interested my ownself for all the reasons you state above-they are EVaeRYWHERE out there!
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Marty Mycfly
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Re: Prickley Pear cactus subtrate [Re: Myco Dude]
#23384074 - 06/26/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Myco Dude said: If you live in the SW sure your aware of the thornless variety bred by the late and great Luther Burbank. It would probably be fair bit easier to deal with I would imagine.
Thank you for digging up this pic of the oyster fruiting from opuntia. I also saw that quote about it in Paul stamets book and have been highly interested my ownself for all the reasons you state above-they are EVaeRYWHERE out there!
I have seen the thorn less variety, I had no idea that was bred, that is awesome, and you are right, the mother load would be finding some nice big ones of that variety! Thanks, Im going to keep an eye out.
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