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Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs
    #23372806 - 06/23/16 07:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

hey guys, ive been getting sort of annoyed by this, for some reason when i smoke too many bong hits everyday my chest starts to have sharp pains in the center when i move my body in certain ways. its like a soreness or something. my lung capacity is still great though.

its pretty bad today and it does kind of annoy me cuz it sometimes will pitch when im working out on certain workouts like dips and weighted pull ups.

everytime the pain comes back i just switch to using my vape and then eventually the soreness goes away.

everytime it comes back im always paranoid that somethings wrong or that its permanently damaged.

my vaporizer is not working anymore and wont heat my weed properly anymore so i dont have access to a vape yet.

This soreness seems to only happen from smoking bongs.
I think the THC is specifically causing the most irritation because when i was out of weed and was smoking vaped weed in my bong it didnt bother my lungs at all cuz there was like no thc.

does anyone else experience this type of chest pain from smoking bongs?


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE]
    #23372928 - 06/23/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I have almost the same problem when i take some good bong rips i have problems breathing and its just annoying and i need to focus on breathing.
But i doubt its in relation with thc itself.
I can smoke 6-7 bowls in a row with my pipe easily but with the bong by the 3rd i start having trouble breathing and some pain.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: flyingBanana420]
    #23372990 - 06/23/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

If smoking gives you trouble, its nothing good.

Its best to stop expose yourself to smoke.

I know a young lady who right now is on oxygen because of smoking. She wont live to be 30.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: Asante]
    #23373156 - 06/23/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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If smoking gives you trouble, its nothing good.

Its best to stop expose yourself to smoke.

I know a young lady who right now is on oxygen because of smoking. She wont live to be 30.



i was under the assumption weed cannot cause copd.

i dont smoke cigarettes just weed.

do you think vaporizers will be alright for me?


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE]
    #23373398 - 06/23/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

the pain seems to sound like costochondritis

its a pain in the very middle of my chest so i dont even think the lungs are involved/

damn guess i should see a doctor


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE]
    #23373631 - 06/23/16 12:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like smoking so much is irritating and damaging your airway. 

It's apparently nothing serious, but it probably increases your risk of developing all sorts of issues.  There isn't enough research to determine if smoking marijuana causes COPD.  But it makes sense that it would for heavy smokers.  You could also get bronchitis, pneumonia, asthma, cancer, and many other pulmonary and other diseases from inhaling smoke all the time. 

There is probably nothing magically different about the smoke of cannabis, no matter how much stoners want to delude themselves.  It's still not good for you to inhale smoke, period. 

But a little airway irritation is normal from smoke inhalation.  Maybe you should take it as a sign that your body is not digging all the smoke and find a way to avoid the irritation.  Bongs are better for your lungs than non-water pipes.  But as you've noticed, it does not completely protect you from problems.  Vaping is better.  Or some other route of administration. 

If you are having airway irritation, pain, and possible damage from smoking, but you continue to smoke and get these symptoms over and over you may have a marijuana dependence.  Perhaps you should seek out treatment for that.  Certainly just smoking less will solve your issue, no?

However, even though it's probably just airway irritation, chest pain is seen as very serious, and it's important to rule out heart disease and other serious issues.  So I would still suggest going to a doctor because I wouldn't want to tell you it's irritation and it turns out it's actually angina.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: Hippocampus]
    #23373643 - 06/23/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

do you think the damage is reversible? ive gotten these symptoms even in my beginner stoner days from smoking too many bongs. I think my vape is working again, i hope vaping will make things better, it usually does.

i usually plan to see a doctor but once i stop bongs it goes away and then i dont bother. il just go to be 100%


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE]
    #23373663 - 06/23/16 12:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

i dont really want to quit weed, its the only vice i use everyday but i try to stay healthy by bodybuilding and whatnot, and it really helps me eat a calorie surplus. but above all that i just prefer my consciousness to remain in the dreamy state of weed because i experience anhedonia in sobriety and lack of interest in doing anything creative unless im in that state of mind.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE]
    #23373811 - 06/23/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

fuck is using a vape too much of a risk too? maybe i should just stick to edibles.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE]
    #23373880 - 06/23/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

asante, i have to go to work very soon, should i call in sick and go to doctor asap?? i read some posts you made about weed chest pain and angina.

So like weed will definitely give me cancer if i use everyday? is there any way to consume it to minimize risk.

its so hard to find real info on the risks because everything i find is the weed cures cancer nonsense.
fuck i really dont want to give it up for good but it seems from what ive read from you that it is suicide

like fuck it hurts when i exhale and move in certain ways and quite a bit when i hiccup. but its just in the middle of the chest its not spreading anywhere else/


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE]
    #23373898 - 06/23/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You need to just calm down.  Go to work.  You've had this for years now right?  It's prolly not going to kill you today. 

It's prolly not even a serious issue.  Irritation from smoking is very common. 

It's just that we don't know what else is going on with you, and chest pain should just not be taken lightly.  The general advice is to go get it checked out, because there is a slight chance that it's something more serious and you wouldn't want to ignore those warning signs and end up having a heart attack at some point. 

But again, what you have is probably just airway irritation from smoking too much.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: Hippocampus]
    #23374062 - 06/23/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

i decided to take a sick day, havent taken work off in months but i feel like i need to get this checked out asap so im waiting for my sis to get home with the car so i can go to doctor. Its worse today than it ever had been and to me this is the last straw in my plan to try to ignore it.

yeah i can be a bit of a hypochondriac. Literally for the past 2 hours my brain is scanning all the potential poisons/carcinogens ive been exposed to and now im getting a lot of anxiety about it, feeling like i should live in a plastic bubble from now on.

damn why does the human body have to be so fuckin fragile.
i really dont want to die young i have so much i havent experienced yet. blah.
no more reading asante posts about cancer risks, that shit scares the fuck out of me, like how does anyone make it through life without developing cancer considering how many things are likely to cause it.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23374164 - 06/23/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Posted these in another thread here Sleepy, but I think they apply to your last post too.


He who is educated by dread [anxiety] is educated by possibility.. When such a person, therefore, goes out from the school of possibility, and knows more thoroughly than a child knows the alphabet that he demands of life absolutely nothing, and that terror, perdition, annihilation dwell next door to every man, and has learned the profitable lesson that every dread which alarms may the next instant become a fact, he will interpret reality differently..
--Kierkegaard


We hate gladiators if they are keen to save their life by any means; we favour them if they openly show contempt for it.  You must realize that the same thing applies to us:  for often the cause of dying is the fear of it.  Dame Fortune, who makes sport with us, says 'Why should I preserve you, base and fearful creature?  You will only receive more severe wounds and stabs as you don't know how to offer your throat.  But you will both live longer and die more easily, since you receive the blade bravely, without withdrawing your neck and putting your hands in the way.  He who fears death will never do anything worthy of a living man.  But he who knows that this was the condition laid down for him at the moment of his conception, will live on those therms, and at the same time he will guarantee with a similar strength of mind that no events take him by surprise.  For by foreseeing anything that can happen as though it will happen he will soften the onslaught of all his troubles, which present no surprises to those who are ready and waiting fo them, but fall heavily on those who are careless in the expectation that all will be well.
--Seneca the younger


Try and quit the worrying man. You're gonna be upping your cortisol levels. And as a bodybuilder, you know damn well you don't want that!!!


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23374186 - 06/23/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

i appreciate the advice, and i think you are correct.

im sure being in a constant state of anxiety and high cortisol levels doesnt help our bodies fight against disease.

Though maybe its good that i have this scare, definitely makes me feel like i should work on experiencing the things that will make me feel unfulfilled if im gone before i can get to have the experiences.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE]
    #23374199 - 06/23/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

High stress (cortisol) is a sure fire guarantee to fuck your body physically somehow. You're still young right, like early 20's?


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23374206 - 06/23/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

im 22 :smile:

gonna be 23 in september


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23374531 - 06/23/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Man you'll be fine. You train, eat well, and are young. Just get down the quacks and get it checked out asap so you can put your mind at rest.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23374806 - 06/23/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

just got back from the doctor.

I told her my story and she checked my breathing and my heart and lungs and said my lungs where perfectly healthy and functioning great.

Its funny i was expecting a type of D.A.R.E doctor intervention where she would try to scare me with all the dangerous of pot but she didnt give two shit about my smoking and said my pains have nothing to do with it.
apparently im straining my chest with all the excessive weight training.

I told her im also having pains on the top of my forearms and cant play piano without it hurting now and she said i developed tendonitis from high intensity piano training 3-6 hours a day. ive been practicing and trying to master la campanella and now apparently my body is starting to get injured from this.

Its so weird, apparently all the things i thought kept me healthy like piano and bodybuilding is actually messing with my health and wellness much more than the pot smoking.

she didnt even tell me to stop smoking weed. she just said use your vape and take it easy because to much of anything can be a bad thing.
she was not at all considered about my weed smoking just my physically demanding hobbies.

lol i feel silly for getting so worked up but im kind of upset because she did say that i gotta let my body heal and stop overdoing everything.

fuck, my whole fucking body hurts cuz of my hobbies, lol.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE]
    #23375068 - 06/23/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

How often do you clean your bong?

Are you finding yourself in massive coughing fits from taking too large of hits? Those muscles from coughing can cause severe strain and lead to symptoms similar to what you're describing. I only cough when hitting a water pipe when I've got allergies or a cold or something.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: Adden]
    #23375079 - 06/23/16 08:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

yeah to be honest i think its a combination of the weight training and the coughing.

i definitely dont clean my bong as much as i should but i abandoned it for a while in favor of vaping and only switched back when my vape wasnt working properly.

i think its working right now, it seems to be vaping shake fully.

I cough more from vapes than bongs strangely enough.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23375090 - 06/23/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Try not to cough your ass off.. and cleaning a bong daily with hot water and letting dry never hurts. Sitting bong water is disgusting and I've gotten my fair share of lung infections. Maybe I'm being too careful but I've had one or two that took me out of work for 6+ weeks. I'd rather take a dozen small hits than 3 lung-wracking ones.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: Adden]
    #23375102 - 06/23/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

yeah i just sip on my vape so i try to limit how much i cough.

even though vapes cause me to cough more, i dont think i experience the same pain from vapes as i do bongs.

its like the thinkness of the smoke strains it the most somehow.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23375207 - 06/23/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Agree with the bong cleaning. That shit's gross, can't stand people that don't clean bongs/bubblers/whatever.

Maybe get a humidifier? I see you're in Canada. Dry as fuck, right? Smoking doesn't do your lungs any good moisture wise either.

My lungs def hurt a lot when I smoked in CO and I attributed that to how dry it is. Never used to happen to me in good ol humid PR.

If it's in your budget, def get a vape. Never used one but from what I've been told, it's good for people with lung issues.

Good luck man, stop worrying. Maybe cut use for a week and see how you feel after that.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: ChameleonTruffle]
    #23375298 - 06/23/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

thanks, strangely enough i seem to be coming down with a fever for some strange reason, i was shivering to the point where i couldnt inhale for a few seconds because of the shivering and feel really low energy and weak.

odd, but damn the tendonitis in my forearms could be a problem for me, ive been working so hard with my music practice it would be heartbreaking if i have to give up my goals because of a permanent injury.
really hope minor tendonitis goes away on its own. ive been icing it so i hope that enough.
im not sure if i should risk practicing with this injury but even loosing a day of practice sets me back so far with the stuff im trying to play.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23375418 - 06/23/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I've got nerve damage and radicular neuropathy in my hands. If you have to, wear a wrist brace around your forearms before you go to bed. When we sleep, our hands naturally curl up, causing stress on those nerves and inflammation. It sucks wearing one let alone two but the progress happens quick. If I know I'm going to be working with my hands or need precision dexterity, I'll wear them a night or two before. Mobile devices, game controllers and keyboards make for good strain and pain. You can also get a hackey sack or rubber ball and gently - gently - run it through your hands and give it a few squeezes now and again (not when you're in pain). I'd ask instructors or fellow musicians what they do.

If you're lifting hard, your grip is one of the most important things and people often overlook it when gains come on very quickly. You may benefit from using a 1lb weight and do some forearm curls. This has helped me immensely and my nerves are crushed to hell. It's the best advice and help I garnered during physical and occupational therapy over an 18 month period.


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Re: Chest pain from smoking weed through bongs [Re: Adden]
    #23375730 - 06/24/16 12:23 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I appreciate your input man!

On another note, duh fuck is happening to me, check my temperature and have a fever of 101.5F. I have no appetite, im cold and get shivers that cause me to be able to move until it passes and for some reason my genitals feel heavy and almost sore. That symptom Came on when the fever did.


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    #23375830 - 06/24/16 01:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Probably just a passing cold or flu. Get plenty of fluids (water not soda) and get some rest. Take a few days off lifting and recover. Feed a cold and starve a flu. Crackers and ginger ale if your stomach goes south. Hope you feel better soon. Rub one out so your balls don't ache.


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