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should i trip?
    #23372515 - 06/23/16 05:40 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Hello guys!I wanna tell u that I am in a normal/good place în my life, I feel peaced with my good/bad memories/thoughts.But I have some insecurities like"I think maybe i should change something în my life like"i must find a road in this life or something"Anyway i wanna take a 2-2,5-3g cubbensis, actually it's my first time.Will i be fine if i will go with a good mindset and a good setting?

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Re: should i trip? [Re: victoryou]
    #23372528 - 06/23/16 05:51 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

In my opinion I would start at a lower dose, use the trip calculator on this forum, try level 2. If you have experience with other psychedelics it will help you reference what to expect. Although in my opinion, psilocybin mushrooms are there own beautiful thing. Maybe try it low, feel yourself starting to ease into it and then build up to a life changing experience. Have a sober watcher is a really good thing, and I suggest reading on trip advice and reports on this forum. I will never forget having DMT and not having any real experience with LSD or shrooms and going.... Woah WTF and getting super scared. I decided to start lower with low doses of shrooms and my next experience was much better and I didn't fight the trip.

I wish you all the best, be safe and be wise :smile:

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Re: should i trip? [Re: victoryou]
    #23372553 - 06/23/16 06:12 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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victoryou said:
Hello guys!I wanna tell u that I am in a normal/good place în my life, I feel peaced with my good/bad memories/thoughts.But I have some insecurities like"I think maybe i should change something în my life like"i must find a road in this life or something"Anyway i wanna take a 2-2,5-3g cubbensis, actually it's my first time.Will i be fine if i will go with a good mindset and a good setting?




Mindset and setting is crucial. Be in a comfortable place, on your own is great (my best trips are alone), you sound fine to me.

Depends on what sort of person you are and what trip level you want. I think you get more benefit from higher doses 2g+ (minimum of 2) but it's apparent some people on here haven't researched what tripping is about and so end up getting traumatised by their trips.

You have to go with whatever they show you. Don't fight anything and relax. No weed prior, I'd say go with 2g. I like to grind mine, boil some water with half lemon and tea, boil the shrooms for like 3 minutes, strain through sieve eat the grinds up off the sieve, then drink the tea.

It gave me a level 4 trip and was super healing and beneficial. A medicine. This method will hit you harder and faster, more rapid onset and more intense peak but slightly shorter duration.

Sounds like you will have fun. Read my report here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23313204/page/1


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Shrooms - 4 times (2.5 - 3.5g)
DMT - 5 times (Powerful breakthrough only once)

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Re: should i trip? [Re: Morelia]
    #23372558 - 06/23/16 06:14 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks man, i appreciate!Be blessed!

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Re: should i trip? [Re: victoryou]
    #23372569 - 06/23/16 06:20 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

hell fuck yeah u should trip. make sure you always get them from a professional or hunt with a professional or just grow yourself....its nice to find a family member, a close friend, or someone you love to trip with you. its always really fun to talk with people about your trip afterwards

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Re: should i trip? [Re: victoryou]
    #23372575 - 06/23/16 06:24 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Thanks man, i appreciate!Be blessed!




Perhaps sit on your bed, back straight against a wall (if you can) and meditate just after taking them if you feel any anxiety (which is totally normal) because the onset can be intense with my method mentioned. Focus on your breathing and let it take you in and have faith in the mushroom. It knows you better than you know yourself. Closed eyes for me was more fun going into the trip (the white light, universe feeling) etc mentioned in my report.

EDIT: https://www.shroomery.org/6255/Trip-Reports take a look at the trip level descriptions. For me it was the intense blending of contradictory emotions simultaneously that gave me such benefit.

2g was perfect for me first proper experience.

Have fun


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LSD - 30+ times (2 hits min / max 3 hits) every time.
Shrooms - 4 times (2.5 - 3.5g)
DMT - 5 times (Powerful breakthrough only once)

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Edited by YeOlde (06/23/16 06:35 AM)

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Re: should i trip? [Re: victoryou]
    #23372715 - 06/23/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I would not start with low doses. I would only do low doses in the future when you're more experienced because imo they can be harder to handle.

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Re: should i trip? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23372783 - 06/23/16 07:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Really?What do u mean?

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Re: should i trip? [Re: victoryou]
    #23373232 - 06/23/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Well in my experience (and McKenna agrees with me) that low doses can actually be harder to handle because you feel like you have 1 foot in this reality and 1 foot in another reality. When this occurs you tend to want to resist it more and you naturally try to fight it more because you are halfway between normal thinking and the other and that can be quite troubling for a beginner, not knowing which side to choose and your ego still there. If you take at least 2.5 grams then you shouldn't have this problem. That should be enough to take you there without any real resistance on your part.

Your first time with mushrooms they take it easy on you anyways so you might as well take a medium dose. I took a high dose my first time (3.5 grams) and it was insanely powerful but still it kind of "filtered" itself in some ways to some extent. It wasn't as whole and spiritual.

My first trip actually wasn't really that spiritual or profound or even visual it was just really really reality dissolving and ego crushing. It felt very primitive and sort of exotic too but there was none of the epiphanies and revelations and deep trips into my soul and the universe that I got with shrooms later on.

My first time still felt like being reborn though it was just a very strange and different experience that I did not expect to be like that. It doesn't feel like a street drug, at least not at that dose. Just don't be one of those people that only takes 1.5 or some bullshit take at least 2.5 grams.

Edited by AuroraBorealis88 (06/23/16 10:37 AM)

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Re: should i trip? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23373947 - 06/23/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Oh man!I think u are right!Anyway maybe you surrender to the experience easier.Hmmm...I think i will do 2,5g depends on potency anyway

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Re: should i trip? [Re: victoryou]
    #23374016 - 06/23/16 02:38 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

If they are really potent I would still recommend 2.5 unless it's some crazy rare species. I consider potent shrooms to be average quality shrooms anyways.

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Re: should i trip? [Re: AuroraBorealis88] * 1
    #23374090 - 06/23/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I'm not trying to pull down or disrespect AuroraBorealis, but this is something I really don't agree on. I always saw it as one of those things McKenna was completely wrong about. If you're just starting out, I think it's wiser to tread the water with a lower dose at first. Just to, you know, test the waters. I've had psychedelic experiences ranging from level 1 to 'what the fuck are levels?'. If I had one of those strong trips when just starting out, I think it would've scared me off of mushrooms or psychedelics pretty much forever.

My first time was a low dose with a close friend. I did not feel like I was in two worlds, but rather that I had an enhanced vision of the one I'm currently in. It was like seeing everything for the first time again, discovering beauty in some stuff I hadn't noticed it before. It also felt like being insanely high and our conversations felt like a comedy goldmine to us. I fell in love with a fucking apple. My dirty leather shoes turned golden.

One of my latest trips involved me feeling like I was really losing my mind. I could not feel a distinction between different emotions. I was crying, laughing and scared at the same time. Reliving a past holiday in Greece in a very, VERY vivid flash back. All while I was crawling between two matresses. My friend had to yank me out by my leg because he thought I was going bonkers there. Then I had lost my motor skills and started kicking around violently, kicking over drinks and chocolate on the floor. Decided it was best to hide my face in a rucksack.

Now, of course psychedelic trips and how you handle them are a highly personal matter. If you think you will feel better on a stronger dose, do go ahead. Do not let some stranger on the internet tell you any different. But for me personally, and I think a lot of other folks too, it's better to wait with the big doses until you've at least had a feel of what it's like.


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Re: should i trip? [Re: victoryou]
    #23374141 - 06/23/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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victoryou said:
Hello guys!I wanna tell u that I am in a normal/good place în my life, I feel peaced with my good/bad memories/thoughts.But I have some insecurities like"I think maybe i should change something în my life like"i must find a road in this life or something"Anyway i wanna take a 2-2,5-3g cubbensis, actually it's my first time.Will i be fine if i will go with a good mindset and a good setting?




Yep, they're just for such cases)))
Don't expect them to solve all your problems and answer all your questions. They facilitate things you already do without them but don't do the job for you. For me, it was like 'Ok, seems like even mushrooms don't give me the answers and I'll finally have to turn my own head on'. It's just a substance, after all.

I'd call 3g an 'upper medium' dose. Just be sure you are ready for anything (I mean it), and be sure you understand how intense it really can be. And go get a sitter.

Wish you success, friend.


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Re: should i trip? [Re: kyu]
    #23374306 - 06/23/16 04:15 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

i understand what Aurora (and McKenna) are saying and the reasoning behind it, but i'm more in the camp of what Satyr said in the OPs case.  if you already had plenty of experience with psyches, i think 3.5 would be a risk worth taking.  with little to no prior experience (or in my case, decades since consuming any psyches), i would suggest a low-ish dose in the 1.5-2g range

just my $0.02

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Re: should i trip? [Re: Satyr604]
    #23374319 - 06/23/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

First off I never told him to take a strong dose I told him to take a medium dose (2.5) and it's not like I'm simply some stranger influencing him, he was already planning on taking a similar amount.

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I'm not trying to pull down or disrespect AuroraBorealis, but this is something I really don't agree on. I always saw it as one of those things McKenna was completely wrong about.




Well it's not just McKenna who thinks that it's A LOT of people that think that way. I figured this out by myself long before I ever heard that from McKenna. There's plenty of people in the community that also would agree that medium/high doses the strangest thing about them is how comfortable they feel.

The first time I ate only half an eighth it absolutely sucked. It was had all the weird parts of tripping with barley any reward by the end. Every time I only ate like half an eighth it sucked and yes it did feel like I was stuck between 2 realities and it just sucks man...I don't know how to explain it it's just not a good feeling. It's nerve-racking.

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If you're just starting out, I think it's wiser to tread the water with a lower dose at first. Just to, you know, test the waters.





I'm sorry but I think this is just bs. I think this whole "testing the waters" thing is people trying too hard to pretend psychedelics are like other drugs. There is no such thing as testing the waters when it comes to psychedelics especially the tryptamines.
You can't just take a little bit of a psychedelic and dip your toes in, it's not weed it's not xanax that's just not how psychedelic trips work I'm sorry.

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Re: should i trip? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23374332 - 06/23/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

There's only 3 different doses I feel comfortable recommending to people if it's their first time. If you're not a person who typically handles drugs well I would suggest taking just 1 gram.
If you are just a normal average person who can handle moderate amounts of intensity and wants just a normal psychedelic experience and something beautiful and that you'll never forget I would recommend 2.5 grams.

If you're an adventurous person and want something intense and possibly ego death then I'd recommend 3.5 grams.

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Re: should i trip? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23374766 - 06/23/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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AuroraBorealis88 said:
First off I never told him to take a strong dose I told him to take a medium dose (2.5) and it's not like I'm simply some stranger influencing him, he was already planning on taking a similar amount.

Quote:

Satyr604 said:
I'm not trying to pull down or disrespect AuroraBorealis, but this is something I really don't agree on. I always saw it as one of those things McKenna was completely wrong about.




Well it's not just McKenna who thinks that it's A LOT of people that think that way. I figured this out by myself long before I ever heard that from McKenna. There's plenty of people in the community that also would agree that medium/high doses the strangest thing about them is how comfortable they feel.

The first time I ate only half an eighth it absolutely sucked. It was had all the weird parts of tripping with barley any reward by the end. Every time I only ate like half an eighth it sucked and yes it did feel like I was stuck between 2 realities and it just sucks man...I don't know how to explain it it's just not a good feeling. It's nerve-racking.

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If you're just starting out, I think it's wiser to tread the water with a lower dose at first. Just to, you know, test the waters.





I'm sorry but I think this is just bs. I think this whole "testing the waters" thing is people trying too hard to pretend psychedelics are like other drugs. There is no such thing as testing the waters when it comes to psychedelics especially the tryptamines.
You can't just take a little bit of a psychedelic and dip your toes in, it's not weed it's not xanax that's just not how psychedelic trips work I'm sorry.




I agree. I also believe that a for a beginner, it's easier to be turned off of mushrooms with a low dose, where the user doesn't get the trip that is expected and is mostly sober throughout the experience. With medium-higher doses, especially higher doses, the ego is unable to fight or resist, giving the user the opportunity for a more profound experience.

I guess it all depends on the OP/user and what his/her intentions are for each trip.

OP, if you have areas in life which you think can be improved, mushrooms may give you some ideas in which to change.


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Re: should i trip? [Re: YeOlde]
    #23374816 - 06/23/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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... have faith in the mushroom. It knows you better than you know yourself.




So true


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Re: should i trip? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23374847 - 06/23/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I think it depends a lot on the individual like do you tend to panic on weed or never panic on it, amount of drug taking experience, boldness etc. And of course be in a comfortable environment where nothing is stressing you. But generally I agree with starting off slow. There's always next time to bump it up.


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Re: should i trip? [Re: ComebackKid]
    #23374853 - 06/23/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Not like you're going to OD lol...and it sounds like you are in the right mind frame.


Do Lemon Tek, keep away from annoying people, enjoy some music.  Dark room and nature are good places to deep dive. Keep hydrated and smoke up maybe 3-4hrs in


Enjoy :heart:

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