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clock_of_omens
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Please point me to where I said shaming them will help. Also your definition of shaming and the PC definition are not the same.
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OrgoneConclusion
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The current USA attorney general, Loretta Lynch (she had some good country western hits back in the day), recommends love as the antidote to terrorists with assault rifles as if it was some miracle shield able to deflect bullets.
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I wouldn't shoot a woman wearing that
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OrgoneConclusion said: I am not a Marine drill sergeant.
I never shamed him nor did I encourage him to stay as he was; I merely pointed out the limitations and handicaps that his starting weight put on him in terms of mobility, speed, stamina and correct form.
He wanted to be able to compete with the stronger players in the club and now he can! 
365 and playing racquetball? It's a good story, sorry if I doubt that your student was running around on the court at that weight. Maybe he was playing wheelchair racquetball? Well now he can run like a gazelle. Hmmm....
The other part of the story is that to lose that much weight that fast seems unhealthy, especially if pushing things. You're lucky this dude didn't drop dead under your tutelage. Did you clear him medically first?
He cheated and had lap band surgery wherein his stomach size was reduced by 70%. I was personally responsible for about 8 pounds lost...
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clock_of_omens
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Damn, where was she 9/10/2001? We could have erected a love shield.
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Hippocampus said: I wouldn't shoot a woman wearing that
What if it was a man? Remember that Pulse was a gay night club...
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clock_of_omens said: Damn, where was she 9/10/2001? We could have erected a love shield.
According to U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch, our nation’s chief law enforcement officer and lawyer, the “most effective response” to terrorism is compassion, unity and love.
The remarks came during a speech delivered in Orlando Tuesday, where Lynch addressed the LGBT community and expressed the administration’s solidarity with those struggling.
“We stand with you to say that the good in this world far outweighs the evil, that our common humanity transcends our differences, and that our most effective response to terror and to hatred is compassion, it’s unity, and it’s love,” Lynch said.
Perhaps she can also transcend time and space.
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clock_of_omens said: Please point me to where I said shaming them will help. Also your definition of shaming and the PC definition are not the same.
I'd love to see a poll where the question "Is obesity a problem in the USA?" has been asked. You don't think the overwhelming majority of people would say yes? Or do you think they'd be too PC to?
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clock_of_omens
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Most likely, but that doesn't stop the PC police from berating people and encroaching on common sense with their asininity.
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The real danger is not diabetes, but that the earth now wobbles and needs to be rebalanced.
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Let's just relocate half the fat people to the Indian Ocean. That should rebalance things, right?
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The European migration crisis is not about politics, but a quick fix similar to your recommendation.
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Hippocampus, I only meant that the way nature works is not by the way we talk about and impress its standards. It works fine by itself, and what is on girls magazine covers, one way or another doesn't impede it. That's not meta. I was mostly just saying look to nature, not be natural in a metaphysical proposition.
Kind of interesting take though. If you really hate fat people, for some reason, and you mean that to "be yourself" means go up to a person and confront them, I'd assume this is something that would have more to do with you. I mean you have it pretty much loaded in your logic. That would be natural to you. Who am I to question that?
Ambivilance seems to me to be more the natural response to things I don't like, though. We are all human and social animals, and I understand that we sometimes wear our feelings on our face. We like to show the implicit pecking order, and that is fine by me. We do that at people all the time, and it is pretty natural, but it is what shows itself imo.
This anti-pc parade, men's help group stuff; that comes to such an explicit dialogue, that is something else. It is just another meta level of people whining. Sneering at life like Clint Eastwood is one of those things we all love to do, but it is more animalistic, and less bullshit. You ever watch a D. Trump speech? He carries it all on his face, and people seem to get behind that, or not. He's not tough, just the biggest baby of all, now running for president.
OC is alright, I guess, but the logic stands. He posed an excluded middle. You don't have to react, one way or another. Nature will take care of itself just fine. Cutting back, shedding on some artificial bullshit in women's and young girls magazines, and media isn't hurting anything. We'll still love what we do all the while.
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Re: Fat shaming? [Re: Kurt]
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You called him "Hippo"! That is just plain mean.
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OrgoneConclusion said: I am not a Marine drill sergeant.
I never shamed him nor did I encourage him to stay as he was; I merely pointed out the limitations and handicaps that his starting weight put on him in terms of mobility, speed, stamina and correct form.
He wanted to be able to compete with the stronger players in the club and now he can! 
365 and playing racquetball? It's a good story, sorry if I doubt that your student was running around on the court at that weight. Maybe he was playing wheelchair racquetball? Well now he can run like a gazelle. Hmmm....
The other part of the story is that to lose that much weight that fast seems unhealthy, especially if pushing things. You're lucky this dude didn't drop dead under your tutelage. Did you clear him medically first?
He cheated and had lap band surgery wherein his stomach size was reduced by 70%. I was personally responsible for about 8 pounds lost...
"He cheated". Probably tired of being called fatty and being shamed by everybody. But it's likely his fault, that fatty fucking cheater.
WTF. You weren't responsible for shit, personally or otherwise. 8 pounds? Like I say, be glad he didn't have a heart attack. Good thing it's one less fatty cheater now we can let him play with the regular racquetball people, thank god fatty cheated and joined us.
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To just add another point unrelated to anything else I've said
That whole ideal of beauty thing is not perfectly aligned with true health. Someone else already made that point itt, I think. But to add to that idea, according to science the healthiest people tend to be slightly overweight. http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=2520627
I wonder if that true healthy weight IS actually biologically programmed. There seem to be a lot of men who eschew the skinny super model ideal and really get off to women who are slightly overweight. It's like the cultural ideals can't completely undermine our biological sense to pick the healthiest mates.
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But it's likely his fault, that fatty fucking cheater.
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To just add another point unrelated to anything else I've said
We don't allow that here.
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clock_of_omens said: Most likely, but that doesn't stop the PC police from berating people and encroaching on common sense with their asininity.
Who do you think these people are, shills for McDonalds and Dairy Queen?
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Mostly liberals from my generation and younger.
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