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My First SGFC
    #23371333 - 06/22/16 08:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

27 Gals. Do I have too much perlite in it? I would appreciate any critiques, flames, or insults to my(deceased)Mother.

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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Sputnik-Spooner]
    #23371346 - 06/22/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Remove the Humidity/temperature gauges and ur in business. I don't think you have too much vermiculite either. :tongue:


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Bobabouy]
    #23371365 - 06/22/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Remove the Humidity/temperature gauges and ur in business. I don't think you have too much vermiculite either. :tongue:




Thanks. Are the gauges a potential contam source? Why remove them?


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Sputnik-Spooner]
    #23371381 - 06/22/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Remove the Humidity/temperature gauges and ur in business. I don't think you have too much vermiculite either. :tongue:




Thanks. Are the gauges a potential contam source? Why remove them?



Because usually they do nothing but make you think the chamber is not working correctly... But your holes are so big, it might be a good idea to leave it in that one... Just long enough to make sure you are getting somewhere in the ball park with your humidity...


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Sputnik-Spooner]
    #23371388 - 06/22/16 09:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Because they are useless. Humidity at the service is what matters and can't be measured with those. Room temp is fine so no need for the other contraption. As long as your PERLITE is saturated you will be fine. Especially with the amount you have in there. Just keep an eye out and if, for some reason, the cakes look dry, mist them until they have water droplets on them. Most of all... Don't over think it. SGFC works like it's supposed to and you should have to do very little to help it along. Good Luck. Maybe I'm wrong about the surface humidity in a sgfc. I only do monos and I know that's what matters there. Either way it will only cause you confusion. Trash it.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Sputnik-Spooner]
    #23371390 - 06/22/16 09:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Remove the Humidity/temperature gauges and ur in business. I don't think you have too much vermiculite either. :tongue:




Thanks. Are the gauges a potential contam source? Why remove them?




They take up space and don't give you any useful information.  The climate you are interested in maintaining is only milimeters surrounding the cakes.  Your chamber is the engine that regulates that climate.  Keep your cakes looking moist at all times with misting and a quick fan after misting.  The FC will do the work of controlling climate with, or without you.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: KenInVic]
    #23371408 - 06/22/16 09:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Sputnik-Spooner]
    #23371827 - 06/22/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Not too much vermiculite but WAY too much perlite..  Oh wait it's a mini SGFC.... eehhhhhhhh that could be harder to get working than a regular sized one.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Inocuole]
    #23371919 - 06/22/16 11:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Why do people always cut corners with the SGFC? Your cakes won't perform as well.

It's not too late..
66 qt sterlite. 2" grid pattern of 1/4" holes on all 6 sides. 4 inches of perlite. Lifted 6" from the floor.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23371938 - 06/22/16 11:27 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You just said monotub.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Inocuole]
    #23371962 - 06/22/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Eh, it's kinda like another name for a sterlite at this point for me. But yeah, my bad. Fixed


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Inocuole]
    #23373320 - 06/23/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I did`nt cut any corners. I followed a tek that stated almost any size of tub is viable for a PF-cake fruiting chamber. Since I only did 5 cakes, a 66qt would be a waste. I don`t plan to continue with cakes- I am moving to monotub after this grow, if its a success.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Sputnik-Spooner]
    #23373375 - 06/23/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I'm assuming his "cutting corners" comment was aimed more towards those 5/8" holes, and not so much the tub size... Maybe


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23374088 - 06/23/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Now I`m worried. Is that too much perl- even for a mini sgfc? My holes are 3/8"- I didn`t have a 1/4" bit. But- RR is quoted as saying he prefers 3/8", but because people tend towards laziness(3/8" chambers need misting more frequently)he recommends 1/4" holes.My cakes still have a few hours in dunk mode, and I`ll switch chambers if I have to.

Update: I went to Walmart and bought a 66g Sterilite. If I must forego my mini-sgfc at least I have all the tek-complying equipment now.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Sputnik-Spooner]
    #23374132 - 06/23/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

lol so much perlite. ive never done a SGFC so i dont know if its TOO much per-se, but its definitely the most ive ever seen in one :p

i also saw your comment above about moving to mono's next/later. i recommend this route >:) and 66qt tubs are perfect for this unless you plan to go mini. which is fine too. thats how i started.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Sputnik-Spooner]
    #23374254 - 06/23/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Theres no such thing as too much perlite, unless it actually cramps the cake inside your FC too tight.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23374430 - 06/23/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Theres no such thing as too much perlite, unless it actually cramps the cake inside your FC too tight.



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Re: My First SGFC [Re: LocN9ne]
    #23374530 - 06/23/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

So long as it's coarse perlite anyway, the fine shit you can have too much of, I'd say.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: CosmoKramer]
    #23375314 - 06/23/16 09:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the input! I was tending to my other cultivation project and was late getting back. Thusly, I was unable to get the holes drilled on my 66qt sgfc, so the 5 will have to make it through the night in the mini. Their new home will be ready first thing(which for me is about 9am)in the morning.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Sputnik-Spooner]
    #23376295 - 06/24/16 06:55 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

i use the same exact tub for my SGFC. i used 1/4in holes, though. I also have a little less perlite, but the tub itself, works great for me. 5 cakes. a square with one in the middle.

I also had read that you can use a smaller than 66qt tub if you have less cakes, somewhere. and while i am eventually going t oget a bigger, closer to 66qt, tub, this one is working well for moe right now.

the extra perlite might ned to be there, since your holes are bigger than 1/4in. just, for future, get a 1/4in bit. i made mine to spec, and it works excellently. I also have mine on a wire shelve, so it has plenty of room on the bottom, which is also needed, where yours is not very high off the table, but it might be ok.


(BTW, these were misted too much)


EDIT - i just read that you just went and got another, so yeah, use a 1/4in bit this time. you want to do it to spec. think about how much extra hole-space you have on that smaller one. 3/8in is 50% bigger, per hole AREA. multiplied by all those holes, makes for a lot of extra air, meaning way drier conditions.

the god think is that tubs arent that expensive at Walmart.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: mupetmower]
    #23391471 - 06/28/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

All done. I now am proud owner of a 66qt Sterilite SGFC with 1/4" holes spaced about 2 inches apart. Perlite is at 4 inches and I have a Sun Blaster 6500K florescent light hanging at an angle over and to the left of the chamber. The cakes were developing nicely in the 27qt- the Hyphal knots were knotting- but I was concerned about performance, and being laughed at hurts my feelings-hence the compliance with the standard Tek!


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Sputnik-Spooner]
    #23391577 - 06/28/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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All done. I now am proud owner of a 66qt Sterilite SGFC with 1/4" holes spaced about 2 inches apart. Perlite is at 4 inches and I have a Sun Blaster 6500K florescent light hanging at an angle over and to the left of the chamber. The cakes were developing nicely in the 27qt- the Hyphal knots were knotting- but I was concerned about performance, and being laughed at hurts my feelings-hence the compliance with the standard Tek!




I just finished building one in the same size (#1757 Sterilite).  344 holes later, lol.  At least it is ready to go for future projects.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: KenInVic]
    #23391970 - 06/28/16 07:13 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Nice! And to boot- I`ve got the first pins coming out of the top of two of my cakes! Now I`m trying to recall whether I change anything in the watering/fanning schedule now that pinning has started. I guess its off to the search box.


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Re: My First SGFC [Re: Sputnik-Spooner]
    #23392928 - 06/29/16 02:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Good luck and post pics when u finish it.


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