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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: Northerner]
    #23378829 - 06/24/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Dude let go. I had such a hard time of doing that. I was always scared. Go with the flow. Finally let go at a Phish concert, 400ug lsd, 100mg mdma, weed. Im actually surprised the 15K people didn't freak me out on that dose, but was good vibes all around.


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: Matai]
    #23378858 - 06/24/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I find that it's a lot easier to talk about surrendering to the experience than actually surrendering. I would have loved to simply give in and let go on my last trip, and in retrospect that's what I wished I had done, but at the time I was simply panicking too much to consider letting go. All I knew is that I wanted the trip to end and I wanted it to end right that second.

It's a real shame, because the visuals and the thought processes were really amazing and engrossing. The world looked completely foreign to me, with massive amounts of warping, fractals, etc, but I tried my hardest to ignore them because I wanted to be sober again. I was too afraid to close my eyes and be engrossed in the CEVs, which is a pity because they were pretty incredible before they got too intense.

I need to somehow train myself to surrender and let go more easily than I do at the moment. I think I'm going to start doing daily mindfulness meditations again in order to train myself to be in the moment and simply give in when I'm tripping. I'm able to do that to some extent, and I can get on top of the panic and fear, but I'm not able to turn the trip around and go deeper into the experience with a positive and curious attitude. I'm only able to weather the storm and keep the ship steady until we make it back to shore, so to speak.

It felt good to write those thoughts down. Does anybody have any experience or advice on pre-trip intentions and preparations that help with being able to go deeper without fear or panic? It's a real pity, because I want to see fractal patterns, and alien geometries, and experience moments of eternity; but when I'm presented with the opportunity, I feel a deep sense of panic and dread, and latch on to reality as hard as I possibly can.

Maybe those high-ish doses just aren't for me. :shrug:





Totally not for me either! And  I think that somebody else of this as well, but I love to take a shower when I'm coming up… It really helps the trip come on smoother because you become pretty preoccupied in the shower with hot water  giving you a massage and how things start to look and feel! Just don't lean and touch something cold... It kinda sucks and is a rude awakening to your body becoming sensitive to temperature difference!


I was glad I enjoyed the visuals more... I had my eyes closed a lot and shit was crazy!!!! Lol! And I opened em, and shit was still crazy!!! Lol! Crazy mushrooms!!!! :smile:


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: LSDollar]
    #23378885 - 06/24/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Dude let go. I had such a hard time of doing that. I was always scared. Go with the flow. Finally let go at a Phish concert, 400ug lsd, 100mg mdma, weed. Im actually surprised the 15K people didn't freak me out on that dose, but was good vibes all around.




I think what helped not freak you out was poppin that MDMA! 100mg of E would melt anyone's body and mind to its surroundings because X does that and the euphoria of candy flipping.... Oh yeah!!! I could c y u let go!! Lol! And maybe a thought should have been to take 50mg of MDMA myself, woulda chilled my shit a bit!! But also have made me nervous and gave me a boost! So mayb not!!


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: Leeper]
    #23378961 - 06/24/16 10:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Holy shit... So I just made tea with penis envy, I now know why I was tripping way too hard... The potency of these mushies are rediculous! 2.5g in my tea... A squeeze of lemon , and lemon ginger tea! I had 2 gulps (mouthfuls)( 6 oz)  out of the 12)and I'm now having a pretty good trip! Will tell more later!


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: Leeper]
    #23378986 - 06/24/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Hold on tight and let go.


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: Leeper]
    #23380929 - 06/25/16 01:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Holy shit... So I just made tea with penis envy, I now know why I was tripping way too hard... The potency of these mushies are rediculous! 2.5g in my tea... A squeeze of lemon , and lemon ginger tea! I had 2 gulps (mouthfuls)( 6 oz)  out of the 12)and I'm now having a pretty good trip! Will tell more later!






So, somebody asked me about the potency  of the penis envy and I've come to the conclusion that they are extremely strong! about a 1.25g dose gets me tripping at a very good level with good visuals! Ps. Also not tripping anymore, forgot to change the emoticon! Lol! I'll be back to stoned shortly! Lol! Love smokin the day after a trip!


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23381098 - 06/25/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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That's pretty hardcore! Dmt sounds intense!! Did he remember doing that?






When he finally "came to", back into his body and coherent, the first thing I asked him is if he remembered smoking the dmt a little while ago....


....he said he did remember smoking it, but it didn't sound like he remembered any part of the trip or anything that happened during that 15 or so minutes while he was "out of it" . Sounded like he pretty much blacked out through the entire trip. I haven't seen this dude since that night, so I don't know if he's been able to recall bits and pieces of what he experienced since then.


but yea, the stuff is no joke :voila:








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I am on a drug.

This drug is Very powerful.

There is nothing I can do about it.

I am on a drug...

This was our mantra as we helped calm the guy down.

I am on a drug. This drug is Very powerful. There is nothing I can do about it.






A mantra of sorts is always good for such situations :yesnod: :thumbup:









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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: Leeper]
    #23381187 - 06/25/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Dude let go. I had such a hard time of doing that. I was always scared. Go with the flow. Finally let go at a Phish concert, 400ug lsd, 100mg mdma, weed. Im actually surprised the 15K people didn't freak me out on that dose, but was good vibes all around.




I think what helped not freak you out was poppin that MDMA! 100mg of E would melt anyone's body and mind to its surroundings because X does that and the euphoria of candy flipping.... Oh yeah!!! I could c y u let go!! Lol! And maybe a thought should have been to take 50mg of MDMA myself, woulda chilled my shit a bit!! But also have made me nervous and gave me a boost! So mayb not!!





Ya...I was at Mall of America when I dropped the first 200ug. I was tripping by the time I walked out. I got back to hotel room, and my buddy asked if I was going to take some molly with the trip. I rolled like 10 days before that, and it was literally one of the harder decisions I made recently. I heard really good things, but then some people say bad things on higher doses for candy flipping. It helped alot, enough that I dropped 200ug more lsd 2-3 hours after I dropped the molly


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: openmind]
    #23385489 - 06/26/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

That's fuckin crazy! I don't know if I would wanna do that anymore!! Lol!


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: LSDollar]
    #23385507 - 06/26/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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mirraco said:
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mirraco said:
Dude let go. I had such a hard time of doing that. I was always scared. Go with the flow. Finally let go at a Phish concert, 400ug lsd, 100mg mdma, weed. Im actually surprised the 15K people didn't freak me out on that dose, but was good vibes all around.




I think what helped not freak you out was poppin that MDMA! 100mg of E would melt anyone's body and mind to its surroundings because X does that and the euphoria of candy flipping.... Oh yeah!!! I could c y u let go!! Lol! And maybe a thought should have been to take 50mg of MDMA myself, woulda chilled my shit a bit!! But also have made me nervous and gave me a boost! So mayb not!!





Ya...I was at Mall of America when I dropped the first 200ug. I was tripping by the time I walked out. I got back to hotel room, and my buddy asked if I was going to take some molly with the trip. I rolled like 10 days before that, and it was literally one of the harder decisions I made recently. I heard really good things, but then some people say bad things on higher doses for candy flipping. It helped alot, enough that I dropped 200ug more lsd 2-3 hours after I dropped the molly





Yeah, I have only tried hippieflipping myself but it was amazing!!! I plan to do some PE with one of my rolls for sure! Figured since they are alrdy so awesome that adding X could only make it better!! Lol!


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: Leeper] * 1
    #23387223 - 06/27/16 10:02 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Personally I have found meditation during the onset of mushrooms very effective at combating anxiety. My brain triggers the 'fight or flight' response once the psilocybin begins to breakdown, usually this is around 45 minutes after consumption. I usually eat my dose, then 30 minutes later I sit in Zazen meditation, however I close my eyes instead of slightly open, so its not true Zazen. My friend who trips with me sometimes on nature hikes doesn't get this 'fight or flight' response, so its something I have had to learn how to combat alone.

After 15-20 minutes of meditation I can feel the mushrooms come on, and almost instantly each time there is a sense of panic. I have learned to shut down this wave of thoughts/emotions as soon as possible. I try to visualize fear like a bird flying over my head through the sky, fleeing from me, and moving on. Once the initial thoughts of fear/anxiety fades (usually 1-2 minutes) a grin sprouts on my face and then the fun begins.

I use mushrooms for creative writing and music composition. After an hour of meditation (30 minutes of which is the during the peak of the mushroom trip) I stand up, take a bow of respect, and pick up my guitar or start doing a little yoga to stretch my muscles out while taking deep controlled breaths. I listen to YellowBrickCinema music on YouTube, one song in particular is my favorite, which is 3 hours of zen meditation music with no commercials. I use headphones too during meditation in order to block external stimulation.

This is of course on lower, functional doses of psilocybin. With higher doses it truly is about surrendering and heading straight at the storm when fear presents itself. Fear is an opportunity to learn something about yourself, and can turn into a positive thing. I have shed some insecurities over the years from psilocybin induced fear.

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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: Perception7]
    #23387237 - 06/27/16 10:08 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

That's such an awesome technique, I tend to get really confused and delirious near my peaks which inevitably turns into  panic attack. I'll have to try that.


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
    #23387288 - 06/27/16 10:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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That's such an awesome technique, I tend to get really confused and delirious near my peaks which inevitably turns into  panic attack. I'll have to try that.




Yeah it has helped me tremendously. I would like to emphasize the ending part that I edited on though after you commented - I do this with smaller doses. I haven't tried this with large doses yet. The doses I use this with range from .20 to 1 gram of dried cubensis.

If your not familiar with Zazen meditation there are great videos on Youtube that are 15-20 minutes long. During those moments of panic sometimes I will inhale positive energy, and exhale negative energy, taking very long, deep breaths. After you do this for awhile then maybe go with higher doses, and see if the fear is still as strong and present.


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: Perception7]
    #23387429 - 06/27/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Alright thankyou, my next dose is going to be 1 gram anyways so i'll definitely try it out. All my other doses have always been around 3.5-4 grams and been to overwhelming so I figured i'd try out a small dose and work myself up higher.


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
    #23388196 - 06/27/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I try not to let it happen these days, I typically will only go as high as two hits of acid, or 2.5 grams of shrooms
but it does.

I turn off. The way I do on opiates or benzos, just imitating the tranquility.
Breathe and turn off your mind.
Wish I could explain it better.


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23388231 - 06/27/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I try not to let it happen these days, I typically will only go as high as two hits of acid, or 2.5 grams of shrooms
but it does.

I turn off. The way I do on opiates or benzos, just imitating the tranquility.
Breathe and turn off your mind.
Wish I could explain it better.





I only take 2 as well! Acid is pretty intense! Usually drop both at once though!!


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: Leeper]
    #23388247 - 06/27/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah but 2 is my cieling, often times it's 1.5 hits or 1 hit :shrug:

My whole take on psychedelics is that no one said that you had to do high doses to hit the sweet spot. 1 good tab is often plenty!

3 tabs starts to become technically problematic (sound issues, crumbling of the english language, loops etc.)

While I have very few if any emotional demons, psychs can fuck me up technically in a way I truly dislike.


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23389524 - 06/27/16 11:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

psych's can definitely cause you to experience some weird shit. Shrooms more so than acid i'd say. Although, my first acid trip was on two 200ug tabs of real LSD-25, made me feel like my body was made out of wind/euphoric energy. I would run at what seemed like 1000 mph, and had super strength. I was an unstoppable god. It wore off after awhile though, at that point I kept getting stuck in these loops. I was trying to walk home and I remember passing this sign, walked for another five more minutes or so and I would all of a sudden be passing that same sign again. Didn't really pay attention to it at first, but after the 3rd or 4th time it started to sketch me out. After what seemed like hours of it I finally got home, but unfortunately I had lost my keys while walking. I had heard them drop into the middle of the street awhile ago, but for some reason I assumed they would just appear back in my pocket when I needed them lol. That's as weird as it ever seems to get though, for me at least.


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
    #23389648 - 06/28/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I had 5.5gs cubensis. Ate 3 then the rest when I peaked on the first, then wanted another gram or two when I peaked on that - that time I really just wanted to see all that gold caps had to show me, but with some weed to stay chill I had no anxiety and loved the experience.
Most trips I'm good on 2-3gs, I don't know why that day was so ridiculous

This probably sounds terrible but my go-to activity while tripping balls is graffiti. REAL graffiti - load up 5 cans in a hoodie, hop on a skateboard and find those HUGE CANVASES! Artistic expression on the giant scale (My favorite size is 10' x 14') is absolutely orgasmic and the element of danger and getting caught really keeps you sharp and alert. Usually get home coming down an hour or two before sunrise dripping in sweat... PAINT PAINT PAINT

Graffiti is also just that real fast freestyle expression and the way that you can layer and line with the cans and caps really matches up with brain-waves I'm on while tripping


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Re: What do you do when you get too high? [Re: trippyfish]
    #23390249 - 06/28/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That sounds badass honestly, i'd really like to see some shroom inspired grafitti. Never tried doing anything artistic on shrooms, but I can assume it greatly increases the creativity of your mind.


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