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Tmethyl
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Tmethyl]
#23369693 - 06/22/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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i LOVE viceland, but am way to paranoid for any of that. But I am really looking forward to watching that episode!!
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Tmethyl]
#23369697 - 06/22/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is the same guy who apparently told John Allen (aka mjshroomer, Mushroom John) a bunch of lies and so Allen returned the favour and told him a load of bullshit. He then published said bullshit and I have never seen him retract it, even though he must now know it's lies.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: blackout]
#23369700 - 06/22/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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blackout said: This is the same guy who apparently told John Allen (aka mjshroomer, mushroom John) a bunch of lies and so Allen returned the favour and told him a load of bullshit. He then published said bullshit and I have never seen him retract it, even though he must now know it's lies.
This.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: blackout]
#23369728 - 06/22/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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blackout said: This is the same guy who apparently told John Allen (aka mjshroomer, Mushroom John) a bunch of lies and so Allen returned the favour and told him a load of bullshit. He then published said bullshit and I have never seen him retract it, even though he must now know it's lies.
i didn't know that. bummer
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: dankington]
#23369729 - 06/22/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Who is mjshroomer, and what happened there? Now you've peaked my interest
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23369869 - 06/22/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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John Allen a shroom author/expert/guru http://www.mushroomjohn.org/
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: guyute22]
#23369878 - 06/22/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not sure how thing went with John Allen, but having talked with Allen several times myself, the guy is fucking bonkers. 
The offer of this documentary is legit, I can say that without a doubt.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: guyute22]
#23369893 - 06/22/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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i havent use pgp in awhile
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Tmethyl]
#23369994 - 06/22/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: Not sure how thing went with John Allen, but having talked with Allen several times myself, the guy is fucking bonkers. 
The offer of this documentary is legit, I can say that without a doubt.
Is this the same guy that spammed a bunch of TCs hoping to shoot a documentary a few months ago? I guess he finally got a bite from somebody... Wouldn't touch that with a 100 foot pole. Why would I even want there to be a documentary about active mushroom growing? That's not gonna bring any positive light on us no matter how you spin it.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: guyute22]
#23370019 - 06/22/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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guyute22 said: John Allen a shroom author/expert/guru http://www.mushroomjohn.org/
hwell, I'd say that depends on who you ask. from all the shit I've seen him post here and the way he acts and reacts I'd say he's pretty much yeah, not getting myself banned here
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: spacechildo]
#23370021 - 06/22/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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A big eccentric sissy baby?
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Inocuole]
#23370025 - 06/22/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Inocuole] 1
#23370387 - 06/22/16 03:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Is this the same guy that spammed a bunch of TCs hoping to shoot a documentary a few months ago?
I have had a few like that actually. Once i had some guy wanting to get me to sign a release or provide a release to use my pics in a magazine or some shit. I'm just like

They might be legit but I ain't about to even go there.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23370442 - 06/22/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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how about we send you some petri's and you get off your butt and do it yourself
jk bro but i miss ya
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: cronicr]
#23370451 - 06/22/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah when ya coming back to the fold Tmethyl?
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23370783 - 06/22/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Vice is garbage. Morons posing as journalists...
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: GreenRabbit]
#23370799 - 06/22/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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this guy?
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I'm looking for people who are growing PE or APE and are willing to have these mushrooms filmed for a short documentary about Psilocybe cultivation.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23371104 - 06/22/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah when ya coming back to the fold Tmethyl?
I'm working on thangs! I recently placed 10 live cultures of PE in 10 perfect cow patties in a field nearby, to see how they do in the wild. Mostly for pics. 
Honestly just wanted to help this guy out with his doc. He didn't ask me to make this thread, I offered to do it for him. It would bring in a ton of new cultivators, thus more shrooms, thus more enlightened homosexuals.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Tmethyl]
#23371140 - 06/22/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#23371185 - 06/22/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said:
It would bring in a ton of new cultivators, thus more shrooms,.
Thus more coverage, thus more lobbying soccer moms making spores illegal, thus a return to the dark ages.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Inocuole] 1
#23371208 - 06/22/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You edited out "thus more enlightened homosexuals", and that was the most important part. Your argument is now invalid.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Tmethyl]
#23371505 - 06/22/16 09:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was wondering when they'd do a drugs, inc. episode on mush cult. So far the only mention is NYC wooks selling .2s $5 a pop at the club, and some retard in jersey getting scooped by a cop trying to sell 2 lbs. I know this is a different show but same concept ya know?
I'm with noc though, I really would rather not have a sophisticated grow OP in detail for anyone to see. Literally nothing good can come out of that.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23371532 - 06/22/16 09:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree.
I can see them cracking down on a lot of things we use once they find out about them.. Like spiking wbs with antifungals or something of that nature. Who knows though
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: natedawgnow]
#23371553 - 06/22/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, it's really just a terrible idea just for some fag from viceland to get a few thousand views? All it would do for us is detriment.
And there are plenty of homos here who aren't enlightened as it is; just look at the pub. They even have access to all our secrets and still don't grow. So... I don't see a vice piece helping any of us.
This reminds me of something that has taken down several narcos over the years. Their egos making them pose with their gains which they'd post of facebook. Is it really much different?
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: dankington]
#23371560 - 06/22/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Whew, I'm not the only sensible person here, that's a load off my shoulders..
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#23371563 - 06/22/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: I agree.
I can see them cracking down on a lot of things we use once they find out about them.. Like spiking wbs with antifungals or something of that nature. Who knows though
Eh spawn is used for every kind of mushroom though. That's too discriminatory. But 66 qt monotubs, polyfil, and verm bought on the same receipt at any superstore would be a good place for someone to start.
I'm sure there's you tubers out there giving our secrets away. But something as accessible as a cable tv show can raise some red flags on us. We are a small group in the drug world, those guys slinging coke and making meth can do this shit cause they already have the heat on them. We pride ourselves on being low key.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23371583 - 06/22/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hell I can grow with nothing more than a bag of flour and a bale of straw or lawn clippings. No way they could stop me
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23371591 - 06/22/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well spores are the super obvious one-shot nip in the bud they'd resort to first, the rest may take a while to isolate trends.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Inocuole]
#23371600 - 06/22/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anyone worth a damn in the scene doesnt buy spores though. So if they start there they'll be busting some wannabe mother fuckers trying to get their cake game going.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Inocuole]
#23371603 - 06/22/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm pretty well set for spores too but given how easy they are to come by I doubt they could have much hope of keeping determined individuals for obtaining them. Kids and lazy people maybe but for the real community? Naw.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23371604 - 06/22/16 09:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You mean like the same new growers that this is allegedly trying to draw in, for instance?
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23371610 - 06/22/16 09:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Idk the more I'm thinking about this the worse it sounds. Can I tell OP to fuck off and tell his Hollywood connect to suck a dick? Cause I'm starting to wanna tell OP to fuck off now.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23371611 - 06/22/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nah, Tmethyl's cool. He's done some good for the hobby.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: dankington]
#23371615 - 06/22/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Helping anybody from vice though? The concept itself, we can tell to fuck off.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: dankington]
#23371616 - 06/22/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I recognize him from What it should and shouldn't look like thread, he had almost half the cake pics. But he's kind of perpetuating this.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23371617 - 06/22/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ya but they don't know that plus any commercial grower worth a damn uses organic grains. But still you're probably right. Still though, even if it only comes down to just spores being made illegal, that is still a detriment to our cause.
There are no secrets here, also. This is a public forum in which the info is free to anyone who comes. The shroomery is already a red flag haven and is a very well known forum.
I had this same issue when they released DMT: THE SPIRIT MOLECULE and started doing documentaries about dmt. Bark used to be cheap and legal everywhere. Now mhrb is illegal to import and expensive if you can find a source to ship it. I used to pay 75 a kilo or less for powder. Now its over 200 from some sources.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: natedawgnow]
#23371621 - 06/22/16 09:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: I had this same issue when they released DMT: THE SPIRIT MOLECULE and started doing documentaries about dmt. Bark used to be cheap and legal evnerywheret. Now mhrb is illegal to import and expensive if you can findca source to ship it. I used to pay 75 a kilo or less for powder. Now its over 200 from some sources.
This right here.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: natedawgnow]
#23371630 - 06/22/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, true. I can't believe any TC would condone this. I sincerely hope none of us less experienced folks do either. It's just like posting your shit on facebook, like I said.
I'd really, really hate to see this become a reality.
It'd really fuck our shit up something fierce.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Inocuole]
#23371635 - 06/22/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ya dude it sucks. I hate how hipsters think they are opening peoples mind to the idea when in reality they are helping law enforcement crack down even harder. If these people wanted to know about the beauty behind these substances, they would seek them out, not watch a documentary about it.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Inocuole]
#23371638 - 06/22/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Like imagine if a netflix series came out? First episodes: "Grown in bedrooms and apartments everywhere" "Is it easy? You bet your ass" "no but really, it's not hard"
We'd be fucked
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23371651 - 06/22/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The last thing we need is thousands of people (landlords, maintenance folk, etc included) knowing what spawn jars look like and how to spot a monotub and instantly know what it's used for.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Inocuole]
#23371655 - 06/22/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I honestly have based my hide in plain sight spots on the assumption if someone stumbled on it they would have no idea what they were looking at..
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#23371658 - 06/22/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: The last thing we need is thousands of people (landlords, maintenance folk, etc included) knowing what spawn jars look like and how to spot a monotub and instantly know what it's used for.
This is one of the most solid arguments so far!
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23371661 - 06/22/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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exactly. No one knows what the fuck a monotub is, that's a big plus already.
Goddamnit this is starting to aggravate me.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: dankington]
#23371673 - 06/22/16 10:11 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The argument about the shroomery being an open forum is bs too. You have to be actively looking for this information to come onto the shroomery. But if a major grow OP comes on when a congress official is channel surfing they could get some ideas and bring to light the "underground epidemic of mushroom drug lords being created by legal spores"
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#23371681 - 06/22/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow, sounds like an after school special on FOX...
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: dankington]
#23371686 - 06/22/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's exactly what it would be
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#23371689 - 06/22/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It would have been naive of me not fully expect responses such as these. However I am disappointed nobody has called me a cop yet.  I understand the concern, prices on certain things like spores could increase with a measurable influx of new cultivators, logical enough. However one spore print is enough spores for an entire life time if you handled them with any sort of expertise.
Furthermore from what I understand, the documentary is not about mushroom cultivation, it's more so about the underground Psilocybe cubensis lifestyle, mushroom hunting, identification, the fear and suspense of trespassing into a cow field at night, the mystical aspects of alkaloid induced mindsets. Cultivation is included in this, but not a main focus.
My only opinion on it is, I would like to see more people cultivating or even just taking mushrooms. The incredible effects they've had on my mental health, worldview, motivation, creativity, I would not want anyone else to go without. I don't have much more involved in it other than that.
I do respect all of your opinions, so anyone wants this thread deleted just say so, if 5+ people say so, it will be done.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#23371703 - 06/22/16 10:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Okay, I understand what you're saying. However most people aren't ready for this. Honestly, a small fraction of the people I've interacted with are ready for this type of thing. I find it frustrating, but it's absolutely true.
Most people like being the ostrich with their heads in the sand. The truth can feel scary to them. I dunno. I think it's best we propagate as we have, and just initiate those we deem worthy.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: SloppyJoseph]
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Dude everyone who frequents forums knows about the shroomery. This place has undergone so many scandals... Even typing anything about mushrooms in a google search bar will probably bring up the shroomery.
Plus a lot of people come here for more than just the mushrooms. The ethno forum is filled with old cats who have never grown a single mushroom but love ethnobotanicals lots of people can find this place without looking. But i digress, i still think this is a bad idea that will just make our lives harder in the end
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Tmethyl]
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Dude I could care less how much spores cost after this moment in time, hell, if be down if they tripled in price. I'd consider going into business then... I mean I can figure you aren't a cop. You just aren't really thinking of the consequences that could come from this. Honestly, I would much rather them show lies about mush cult. Like show some fail ass monotub and tell them how it took them 4 months to cultivate 2 dry ounces. And that was a good haul. You know? No one would give a shit.
But if you explained to the average joe that from a single qtip or a single drop of spore water you could easily pull 5 lbs 3x a month for the forseeable future if one was so inclined... You see the issue with that right?
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Tmethyl]
#23371724 - 06/22/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: It would have been naive of me not fully expect responses such as these. However I am disappointed nobody has called me a cop yet.  I understand the concern, prices on certain things like spores could increase with a measurable influx of new cultivators, logical enough. However one spore print is enough spores for an entire life time if you handled them with any sort of expertise.
Furthermore from what I understand, the documentary is not about mushroom cultivation, it's more so about the underground Psilocybe cubensis lifestyle, mushroom hunting, identification, the fear and suspense of trespassing into a cow field at night, the mystical aspects of alkaloid induced mindsets. Cultivation is included in this, but not a main focus.
My only opinion on it is, I would like to see more people cultivating or even just taking mushrooms. The incredible effects they've had on my mental health, worldview, motivation, creativity, I would not want anyone else to go without. I don't have much more involved in it other than that.
I do respect all of your opinions, so anyone wants this thread deleted just say so, if 5+ people say so, it will be done.

Please use the war against dmt comtaining plants after all the documentaries came out about it as a reference here. I don't see why mushrooms would be treated any other way.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: natedawgnow]
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So is that 4 "delete this shit pleases"? Who's going to put the final nail in the coffin?
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I definitely dont think this should be deleted! Let people read it and make up their minds on the situation
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: natedawgnow]
#23371744 - 06/22/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: I definitely dont think this should be deleted! Let people read it and make up their minds on the situation
Me too. Like a warning.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Tmethyl]
#23371748 - 06/22/16 10:29 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I see no need to delete this myself. . . Granted it's a touch off topic but some good discussion has come about. Really people we don't need to be annoyed, if anything it can serve to inform us that intrest is being taken in our activities. Depending on your point of view that can be a good or a bad thing, but either way we should be aware of it.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: SloppyJoseph]
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SloppyJoseph said: Honestly, I would much rather them show lies about mush cult. Like show some fail ass monotub and tell them how it took them 4 months to cultivate 2 dry ounces. And that was a good haul. You know? No one would give a shit.
You wanna help the hobby? Think about it. Feed this show lies
But it's up to you man. If this guy doesn't, someone else will. Matter of time. Just better later than sooner.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23371768 - 06/22/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I see no need to delete this myself. . . Granted it's a touch off topic but some good discussion has come about. Really people we don't need to be annoyed, if anything it can serve to inform us that intrest is being taken in our activities. Depending on your point of view that can be a good or a bad thing, but either way we should be aware of it.
Excellent point.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: natedawgnow]
#23371831 - 06/22/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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As another warning, 50 years ago chemistry was still a completely acceptable hobby. Starting around 1967, it was frowned upon more and more.
If you order a 1000ml round bottom flask on amazon, I'm sure your name goes on a list.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: dankington]
#23371872 - 06/22/16 11:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I nominate filthyknees or supalemonhaze. Id be willing to do it myself but you know...with three pf cakes there isn't a dea agent in America that would be willing to pass up a massive grow op such as my own lol
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Diamorphine]
#23371877 - 06/22/16 11:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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why them, exactly? You've piqued my interest.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Diamorphine] 1
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Whoever does it should grow at an insanely high level. Huge hood, positive pressure lab, Pyrex plates, walk in green house, nothing but red milo grain spawn, the works. That way those of use who grow ghetto as fuck can still fly under the radar
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Pastywhyte] 1
#23371882 - 06/22/16 11:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Whoever does it should grow at an insanely high level. Huge hood, positive pressure lab, Pyrex plates, walk in green house,nothing by red milo grain spawn, the works. That way those of use who grow ghetto as fuck can still fly under the radar 
That could work. No mention of spore syringes even, just using cultures on agar and LCs. Make it seem like fuckin science voodoo.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said: Whoever does it should grow at an insanely high level. Huge hood, positive pressure lab, Pyrex plates, walk in green house, nothing but red milo grain spawn, the works. That way those of use who grow ghetto as fuck can still fly under the radar 
Yeah that's the other way to do it. Instead of playing it down, play it wayyyyy UP. That way it makes it seem less accessible.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: dankington]
#23371927 - 06/22/16 11:23 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well i choose them because they've came off as helpful, knowledgeable and pleasant when I've talked to them. Those are the qaulities id want the person who like it or not will be acting as a representative of our hobby to exemplify. I definitely dont want some bitchy kid with a talk shit cause they aren't in asswhoopin' distance mentality to make us and our hobby look bad or be another point of argument for further regulation of our beloved actives. But I'm sure whoever is covered is going to be potrayed in some negative way or another. I imagine anyone who fits the required description of the original posting would not be willing to be on such a wide reaching network such as vice.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: natedawgnow]
#23372010 - 06/23/16 12:00 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Ya dude it sucks. I hate how hipsters think they are opening peoples mind to the idea when in reality they are helping law enforcement crack down even harder. If these people wanted to know about the beauty behind these substances, they would seek them out, not watch a documentary about it.
 can't believe this isn't locked yet haha, nobody wants to show you that they're making schedule 1 drugs, if people want to grow there's more than enough info on here haha
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: dankington] 1
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dankington said: As another warning, 50 years ago chemistry was still a completely acceptable hobby. Starting around 1967, it was frowned upon more and more.
If you order a 1000ml round bottom flask on amazon, I'm sure your name goes on a list.
I highly doubt that.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: bodhisatta]
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Yeah, let's see the cjar take off on cable tv.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Inocuole]
#23372311 - 06/23/16 03:17 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I feel like a lot of vice had the equivalent being interviewed. Like their drug "kingpins" that have time for this shit...
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Inocuole]
#23372680 - 06/23/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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IMO the blame for the situation with dmt plants lies on the jerks running the Nexus. They fucked up the moment they started advertising vendors selling the herbs on a site containing extraction teks. Completely selfish and irresponsible assholes convinced they're doing good work while making money off it.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Diamorphine] 1
#23373085 - 06/23/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Diamorphine don't make me blush. If I'd ever participate in a film it would be rr style video with monos x10 posted anonymously & free for the cultivators, not for media outlets to profile underground lifestyle.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: bodhisatta]
#23373167 - 06/23/16 10:16 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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dankington said: As another warning, 50 years ago chemistry was still a completely acceptable hobby. Starting around 1967, it was frowned upon more and more.
If you order a 1000ml round bottom flask on amazon, I'm sure your name goes on a list.
I highly doubt that.
I vote camplo does the interview
I would also like to see camplo do it.
But they do watch what labware you order. Certain combinations set off red flags.
It's just like how buying sudafed puts you on a list, or buying insulin syringes. They keep track of all kinds of shit in this country.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Orgasmatron]
#23373403 - 06/23/16 11:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Orgasmatron said: IMO the blame for the situation with dmt plants lies on the jerks running the Nexus. They fucked up the moment they started advertising vendors selling the herbs on a site containing extraction teks. Completely selfish and irresponsible assholes convinced they're doing good work while making money off it.
i know you're new around here, but have you looked at our sponsor page? It's loaded with vendors selling spores and mushroom supplies on a website about growing mushrooms. We do the same thing as the nexus. In fact, now adays the nexus isn't even allowed to make any reference to vendors.
If i'm not mistaken they've removed all plant source vendors, or at least they had last time i logged on over there.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: natedawgnow]
#23373406 - 06/23/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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yep. They don't allow sourcing anymore I don't think.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: dankington]
#23373465 - 06/23/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's too fucking late... They should had never advertised vendors or even discussed specific plant sources on a website containing extraction teks. I'd bet the DEA and their friends are a lot more serious about people extracting very pure substances than people growing mushrooms, as they have demonstrated.
New username doesn't mean new to the scene - a common "not-newb" mistake...
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: filthyknees]
#23373490 - 06/23/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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filthyknees said: Diamorphine don't make me blush. If I'd ever participate in a film it would be rr style video with monos x10 posted anonymously & free for the cultivators, not for media outlets to profile underground lifestyle.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Orgasmatron]
#23373497 - 06/23/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pretty sure you can grow loads more mushrooms for a lot cheaper than You could dmt. The shroomery does the same thing. In fact, shroomery sponsors still sell dmt containing plants! If anything, i blame joe rogan, the spirit molecule, and all the other docs. Open awareness of the scene did us in.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: natedawgnow]
#23373549 - 06/23/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nah, it was kids and dummies blindly following "extraction for dummies" teks off the nexus and getting busted that did it. Dummies all around.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23373918 - 06/23/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: Who is mjshroomer, and what happened there?
I have posted about it before. From what I remember this guy posed as a school kid or college kid writing some article and did not disclose he was working for Vice to MJ. This is why the story he wrote about the penis envy mushroom sounds so fantastical, some of it it WAS fantasy.
He seems to not only have not retracted any of it that I can see, but is/was actually writing a book on the subject, and I expect he will knowingly include what he now knows to be lies, unless its already a scrapped idea.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: filthyknees]
#23378750 - 06/24/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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filthyknees said: Diamorphine don't make me blush. If I'd ever participate in a film it would be rr style video with monos x10 posted anonymously & free for the cultivators, not for media outlets to profile underground lifestyle.
DUDE! You should! just don't look like a goober when you get up there in front of the camera. Before everyone nails me to a cross I'm not making fun of him or anything. It's just there are some people who have the presence to grab the viewers attention and those that don't,and on that video i didn't see anyone with a t.v. personality (and I'm assuming it was for vhs as old as it looks). That and the fact that considering its a video on how to do something illegal its really hard to take it seriously when it seems more like a video on how to use your Kirby vacuum cleaner for the first time. I bet half the reason all these kids ask so many questions that can be correctly answered with "watch RR's video" is because they really did watch it but were zoning out and checking their Facebook page because it couldn't keep their attention. It gets the job done but not much more. I think its time someone else takes the spotlight. Id love to see a Video with that couple from swamp people troy and Elizabeth. There's your personality! Have her do the inoculating while troy yells "choot'em liz!" Wouldn't you just love to hear him say "hallucinogenic mushrooms"? Or maybe steeve-o doing a video on a manure grow that would be tv gold right there.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Diamorphine]
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A lot of information I got from RR is now outdated, and much of it misinformation. I hate to say it. He had a lot of knowledge, but the community has built upon that knowledge, and there is now better information out there, and better ways of doing things.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23378828 - 06/24/16 09:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Only marginally, in some small areas, most of his ideas still stand.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said: A lot of information I got from RR is now outdated, and much of it misinformation. I hate to say it. He had a lot of knowledge, but the community has built upon that knowledge, and there is now better information out there, and better ways of doing things.
I'm certain nobody would call me an RR fanboy, but this is some serious bullshit.
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there is a reason www.mushroomvideos.com gets linked here at least 20 times a day by experienced cultivators
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Tmethyl]
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Tmethyl said: It would have been naive of me not fully expect responses such as these. However I am disappointed nobody has called me a cop yet.  I understand the concern, prices on certain things like spores could increase with a measurable influx of new cultivators, logical enough. However one spore print is enough spores for an entire life time if you handled them with any sort of expertise.
Furthermore from what I understand, the documentary is not about mushroom cultivation, it's more so about the underground Psilocybe cubensis lifestyle, mushroom hunting, identification, the fear and suspense of trespassing into a cow field at night, the mystical aspects of alkaloid induced mindsets. Cultivation is included in this, but not a main focus.
My only opinion on it is, I would like to see more people cultivating or even just taking mushrooms. The incredible effects they've had on my mental health, worldview, motivation, creativity, I would not want anyone else to go without. I don't have much more involved in it other than that.
I do respect all of your opinions, so anyone wants this thread deleted just say so, if 5+ people say so, it will be done.

haha you douche you say that then dropped a bad rating over this thread.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: MysticMoteToter]
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natedawgnow said: Ya dude it sucks. I hate how hipsters think they are opening peoples mind to the idea when in reality they are helping law enforcement crack down even harder. If these people wanted to know about the beauty behind these substances, they would seek them out, not watch a documentary about it.
 can't believe this isn't locked yet haha, nobody wants to show you that they're making schedule 1 drugs, if people want to grow there's more than enough info on here haha
For this quote... Maybe he just don't like you? I said plenty of potentially ruder stuff leading up to that.
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#23383348 - 06/26/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: A lot of information I got from RR is now outdated, and much of it misinformation.
Can you give a few examples of these? seeing as there are lots it should be easy.
I would also like to hear your definition of "misinformation", I see it used a lot on this forum and people do not seem to have the same idea of what it means that I do -which often implies deliberate deceit.
http://www.onelook.com/?w=misinformation&ls=a
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Re: Seeking Experienced Cultivator for Documentary [Re: blackout]
#23383382 - 06/26/16 09:10 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I still use methods I picked up from his posts. Never saw his vids but I learned a lot from his posts. I reckon that I will keep using some of his advice for a long, long time.
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