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seeing eyes on objects on L
    #23369268 - 06/22/16 07:59 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

When I used to trip on some really pure stuff I would see mayan psychedelic like eyes on objects , it was strange , like on flowers or  my computer screen , and every time I saw them I got this really good feeling , anyone experience something similar ?

the colors of the eyes were always blue and it looked like that pic of the trippy guy with orange and blue and he is all fractaled hopefully i can find it


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Broly]
    #23369352 - 06/22/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Eyes are one of the distinctive visuals I get on LSD as well. Eyes on me, eyes all over my cat, sometimes just patterns shaped like eyes.

Other times real functioning blinking eyeballs would grow out of my cat if I dose higher than I intended to. I paint a lot on LSD, and frequently I find myself painting eyes. I don't know why, but it happens to me and wife a lot too, man.

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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: WeAreMushroom]
    #23369380 - 06/22/16 08:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I saw eyes on my last mushroom trip


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Flowing out means far-reaching;
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Broly]
    #23369963 - 06/22/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I see eyes on higher doses of L, especially if I smoke.


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: dreaz]
    #23370000 - 06/22/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I don't think I have ever NOT seen eyes all over things while on (specifically) LSD, and I have used it almost 40 times now.


It's something I have always noticed as well. The eyes seem to resemble like what you would see on a hamsa, and they often manifest themselves as patterns on EVERYTHING it seems lol


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #23370361 - 06/22/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ahh so i am not the only one, cool. Now let's come up to theories of why?

Mine is that the eyes resemble a part of you in a way. like it shows perception to surroundings and the eyes are symbolic for that. or we subconsiusly love our eyes for it brings sight.


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Broly]
    #23370378 - 06/22/16 03:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Ahh so i am not the only one, cool. Now let's come up to theories of why?

Mine is that the eyes resemble a part of you in a way. like it shows perception to surroundings and the eyes are symbolic for that. or we subconsiusly love our eyes for it brings sight.




I think it has to do with how we evolved. We evolved to have excellent facial recognition, so when you trip it kind of makes sense that you might see some facial features in patterns or objects. Eyes are particularly important as pretty much all semi advanced species (ie including frogs and deer) can detect eye contact. Humans are one of the few species where eye contact isn't a hostile act of aggression, so we often see each other's eyes.



I have also wondered about it from more of a spiritual point of view though, you can see eye symbols in pretty much all civilizations and religions since they began. Maybe eyes are supernatural, or there is an all seeing eye, it's impossible to say. If i'm not mistake, it is one (if not the most) complex organs in the entire body


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #23370397 - 06/22/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

its our pareidolia.
psychedelics have strange effects which raise our pattern recognition in many different ways, thats one of the reasons why its associated with creativity enhancement.
one of the ways it increase our pattern recognition is obviously through facial recognition.
but i find it amazing how aesthetically it represents itself, it almost looks alien.
it didnt have to represent itself so strangely.

this is an example of Acid Flo's arts showing the increase in facial recognition and pareidolia that is experienced on psychedelics.


personally i think it is quite a mystical phenomenon due to the strangeness of the representation. but thats just an opinion of mine.


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: SleepyE]
    #23370458 - 06/22/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I always see eyes when I eat enough mushrooms. Eyes were sprouting and blinking out of my fingers during my last trip, it was pretty intense. I can't speak for LSD as I haven't tried it.

I find they often look quite similar to the eyes you see in google's deep dream images.



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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Matai]
    #23370521 - 06/22/16 04:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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DeepDream is a computer vision program created by Google which uses a convolutional neural network to find and enhance patterns in images via algorithmic pareidolia, thus creating a dreamlike hallucinogenic appearance in the deliberately over-processed images.
- The software is designed to detect faces and other patterns in images, with the aim of automatically classifying images.[4]

When reiterations are run to tease out the found imagery even further, a form of pareidolia results by which psychedelic and surreal images are generated algorithmically. The oft-cited resemblance of the imagery to LSD- and psilocybin-induced hallucinations is suggestive of a functional resemblance between artificial neural networks and particular layers of the visual cortex, a matter which merits further study.


- sourced wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: SleepyE]
    #23370538 - 06/22/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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DeepDream is a computer vision program created by Google which uses a convolutional neural network to find and enhance patterns in images via algorithmic pareidolia, thus creating a dreamlike hallucinogenic appearance in the deliberately over-processed images.
- The software is designed to detect faces and other patterns in images, with the aim of automatically classifying images.[4]

When reiterations are run to tease out the found imagery even further, a form of pareidolia results by which psychedelic and surreal images are generated algorithmically. The oft-cited resemblance of the imagery to LSD- and psilocybin-induced hallucinations is suggestive of a functional resemblance between artificial neural networks and particular layers of the visual cortex, a matter which merits further study.


- sourced wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia




Yep, great explanation there



The real question I have always had is how does your brain create geometric shapes in visuals while tripping? Even with closed eyes. Shapes = math and the fact that your brain can create shapes is so fucking facinating to me.


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Gottaloveacid] * 1
    #23370552 - 06/22/16 05:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

That's a question that I've been looking into myself somewhat recently. I haven't had a chance to properly delve in, but here's an article that's understandable. There are some technical papers here and also here, although you may need journal access to view the last article.

Be warned that the technical papers are pretty high-level, and you'll most likely need a thorough understanding of mathematics (a BSc or more) and a lot of free time to get on top of it.


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Matai]
    #23370559 - 06/22/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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That's a question that I've been looking into myself somewhat recently. I haven't had a chance to properly delve in, but here's an article that's understandable. There are some technical papers here and also here, although you may need journal access to view the last article.

Be warned that the technical papers are pretty high-level, and you'll most likely need a thorough understanding of mathematics (a BSc or more) and a lot of free time to get on top of it.




damn dude, thanks for those! :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #23370650 - 06/22/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

No worries dude :hippie:


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Matai]
    #23370705 - 06/22/16 05:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, I see eyes every time I trip. A few weekends ago me and a few of my buddies got down on some L. I decided to take a decent sized dose of 600ug (this is big for me). We where just sitting out on his drive way and taking turns riding his long boards down his hills around his neighborhood. When I was resting I would listen to the music playing and just let my eyes go. When I would look into the sky and the entire sky was eyes. It was very Alex Grey-esque. One of the coolest visuals I ever had

very similar to this, but it was just the eyes.



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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: a_stoned_sloth]
    #23370721 - 06/22/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Truth the eyes i see are very similar to that pic. Dude long boarding on L is a breeze i go so fast and can cover some mad distance on one.. it's a lot of fun.

That's a for sure dope visual man sounded like a blast.

I resonate with your username , some dabs and kratom and im a damn sloth hahaha. i want to try dabs kratom and L soon , like 2 tabs 3 grams of kratom and smoking like 4 dabs.


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: a_stoned_sloth]
    #23370722 - 06/22/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Only time I took LSD, which felt like a lot, I didn't see eyes by themselves. But I saw faces on each of the bricks of my house. And they were all singing the song I was listening to at the time. Which was some song by The Doors.

Twas crazy.


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: a_stoned_sloth]
    #23370729 - 06/22/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes, I see eyes every time I trip. A few weekends ago me and a few of my buddies got down on some L. I decided to take a decent sized dose of 600ug (this is big for me). We where just sitting out on his drive way and taking turns riding his long boards down his hills around his neighborhood. When I was resting I would listen to the music playing and just let my eyes go. When I would look into the sky and the entire sky was eyes. It was very Alex Grey-esque. One of the coolest visuals I ever had

very similar to this, but it was just the eyes.






I have experience almost that exact same visual, just not as intense! Often when I look up in the sky on acid, I see patterns made of eyes, and when I look around my arms and legs I will see the same eye-pattern wrap around my skin. I also have these cool slate tiles in my bathroom that show tons of eyes and crazy patterns when tripping on acid


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: a_stoned_sloth]
    #23370746 - 06/22/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

This is common on Lysergics and Phenethylamines for me. Never seen eyes on tryptamines though


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Matai]
    #23370808 - 06/22/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Matai said:
That's a question that I've been looking into myself somewhat recently. I haven't had a chance to properly delve in, but here's an article that's understandable. There are some technical papers here and also here, although you may need journal access to view the last article.

Be warned that the technical papers are pretty high-level, and you'll most likely need a thorough understanding of mathematics (a BSc or more) and a lot of free time to get on top of it.



I think the geometry and landscapes and visions involve a lot more than the mechanisms they assume.
Not to mention the question of why the re-occurring archetypes.
All this stuff is essentially lacking in a conclusion until we figure out the true nature of consciousness and why matter can mysteriously become aware and conscious through us.


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: trvptamine]
    #23370826 - 06/22/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I never see eyes, yet my friends ALWAYS do :shrug:
In general I tend to have very few hallucinations though, like while my friends are seeing the trees turn into people and the grass turn into mouths and needles I see faint little patterns occasionally, and that's about it. Sucks ass really. Even closed eyes get me much less than I'd expect. Doesn't seem to matter dose either, 2g mushies, 4 g, a single tab, two, three... makes little difference, all that happens with higher doses is my head gets more fucked up *sniff* :sad:


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Broly]
    #23370857 - 06/22/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Truth the eyes i see are very similar to that pic. Dude long boarding on L is a breeze i go so fast and can cover some mad distance on one.. it's a lot of fun.

That's a for sure dope visual man sounded like a blast.

I resonate with your username , some dabs and kratom and im a damn sloth hahaha. i want to try dabs kratom and L soon , like 2 tabs 3 grams of kratom and smoking like 4 dabs.






Yea brother, Long boarding on a beautiful night is my newish found love. Nothing like just trusting your self and bombing a hill. It's super exhilarating.


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Ezuma]
    #23370860 - 06/22/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I never see eyes, yet my friends ALWAYS do :shrug:
In general I tend to have very few hallucinations though, like while my friends are seeing the trees turn into people and the grass turn into mouths and needles I see faint little patterns occasionally, and that's about it. Sucks ass really. Even closed eyes get me much less than I'd expect. Doesn't seem to matter dose either, 2g mushies, 4 g, a single tab, two, three... makes little difference, all that happens with higher doses is my head gets more fucked up *sniff* :sad:



I think some people really just don't get full on visual experiences from psychedelics. I have a friend like that also


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: trvptamine]
    #23370874 - 06/22/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It's extra annoying to me because I'm an artist/highly visual person, so a big part of what intrigued me about psychedelics was the potential for visions/visuals. For that very reason I'm getting a bit tired of LSD and Mushrooms not paying off. Time for DMT  :sagetrip:


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Ezuma]
    #23370895 - 06/22/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I sometimes notice certain trips have very little noticeable visuals, even though I would take my normal dose of acid.

Not sure why it is, but it seemed to have been becoming a more and more common thing for me but the last trip I had off of 2 tabs of that team trust LSD, and I didn't get the insane visual explosion of awesomeness until about 3 hours into the trip. I turned on some loud music and the visuals went fuckin NUTS. I was seeing everything in my vision worp and move with every sound.


But anyways, yeah, I used to kind of feel the same about the visuals, like everyone else was getting stronger visuals than me. I have never taken less than 2 tabs aside from when I would candyflip, and I get really good acid. Sometimes just a change of setting or turning on music (or hell even turning it up louder) can really change the visuals, and make them stronger or weaker.



Now I still get almost NO closed eyed visuals from LSD. I'm not sure why this is, but when I close my eyes on acid i don't really see much more than just the blackness of my eyelids and some "distant" patterns and shapes, but when I open my eyes there would be those all over everything. Shrooms seem to give me much better CEVs though.



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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Ezuma]
    #23370934 - 06/22/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I'm kind of the same , dabs or potent Christmas trees can make the trip have more depth and spur visuals for me though. Soon I'm gonna take like 2-3 tabs to see if I can get crazy visuals. One of my strongest visuals opened eyed was my body melting and stuff melting. Then also the lake became one dimensional with the background. For me I get intense emotions and feelings of energy , of the planet and surroundings... more then visuals.

but I think 2-3 tabs and Christmas trees will get me to visual land.

Try dxm for closed eye visuals and smoke a lot of Christmas trees. Smoked some fat blunts and was on 540 mg saw the fabric of DNA white and blue nd became part of it zoomed in on it and I became part of it. Then there was the time I kind of became one with christ in prayer and I was eyeing lights and a blue angel with a sword or some shit. Then another time where I was driving around a road by a mountain but parameric  and there's was no car then a tunnel appeared and I became an eagle over a canyon like wtf.


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: SleepyE]
    #23371078 - 06/22/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I think the geometry and landscapes and visions involve a lot more than the mechanisms they assume.
Not to mention the question of why the re-occurring archetypes.
All this stuff is essentially lacking in a conclusion until we figure out the true nature of consciousness and why matter can mysteriously become aware and conscious through us.




What makes you think that there's more to geometric hallucinations other than simple (well, complex) neuroscience? Is it just a hunch of yours based on experience, or do you have some specific problem with their arguments and analysis? What exactly do you think they're assuming, and what do you think they're not taking into consideration?

I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying -- I'm just interested in why you're of that opinion.


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Broly]
    #23371110 - 06/22/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

@ezuma
Yeah DMT is definitely an extremely visual experience I just don't see anybody not having intense visuals on it. Also if you aren't scared of taking some of the more dangerous psychedelics then try the nbome compounds. Especially 25b-nbome. Its one of the most visual psychedelics Ive been on. Ive just been on one dose of it before and looked at the night sky and it turned red and all the stars made a giant mayan god type thing with six arms that were waving back and forth. extremely visual even with open eyes. Also this is more on topic, on 25b-nbome ive been sitting across the living room from my friend on a couch before and a giant blue geometric eye opened up in thin air right in front of his face

@gottaloveacid
I agree. For me LSD is just not an extremely visual psychedelic in general. To me its more about the thought process it puts me through. Mushrooms are highly visual for me though especially with closed eyes.

@broly
Weed makes any trip more viual and just more intense in general for me. I used to not feel weed no matter how much I would smoke while tripping. And I guess I still don't necessarily feel the weed high while im tripping but now it just intensifies the fuck out of a trip


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: trvptamine]
    #23371731 - 06/22/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I always saw eyes, or a collection of elongated upward pointing eye shapes when I took enough lsd to trip very nicely.

It fits into the chain link geometry like clockwork.  It happens to look like aliens staring at you in the dark on the peak.

I feel like it's because lsd speaks in triangles and a less specific receding fractal geometries.

Lsd has pointed teeth too.  I always noticed that when I took more than I expected.


I still remember humanoids staring at me if I chose to peer into them.  I had a few paintings that always did the same thing unless it was a research chemical, well before internet research chemicals were a thing.


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Matai]
    #23372202 - 06/23/16 01:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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SleepyE said:
I think the geometry and landscapes and visions involve a lot more than the mechanisms they assume.
Not to mention the question of why the re-occurring archetypes.
All this stuff is essentially lacking in a conclusion until we figure out the true nature of consciousness and why matter can mysteriously become aware and conscious through us.




What makes you think that there's more to geometric hallucinations other than simple (well, complex) neuroscience? Is it just a hunch of yours based on experience, or do you have some specific problem with their arguments and analysis? What exactly do you think they're assuming, and what do you think they're not taking into consideration?

I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying -- I'm just interested in why you're of that opinion.



aha yeah just a hunch. Ive just experienced bizarre things that have me doubt that it only has to do with straight neuroscience.

also im heavy into studying the archetypes that occur in the dmt state and other psychedelic states.

for example i have a youtube channel which talks about people who experience clowns and jesters on dmt and im getting MANY people comment also saying they experienced a clown or jester on dmt and other psychedelic for that matter.
So our psychedelic pareidolia for some unknown strange reason has a habit of producing clown imagery.
I even had one commentor saying he had a friend who claims he was attack by a jester.
this is the quote
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Yeah I stopped letting people try dmt when I gave my sisters bf some and he had an odd trip. He still won't tell us the full story of what happened, but he said that jesters held him down and told him not to move until he heard a sound. He doesn't even wanna try it again...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snvo6i930pY





but i think the main convincing element is somewhat unexplainable things that happened to me while in these states.
So my experiences bias me towards the idea of non-locality of consciousness despite how badly people want to demonize the concept and the ones supporting it. So i'll wear my fool badge with pride :smile:

Also i have a tough time trying to figure out how neuroscience alone has the ability to morph and bring objects to life and start to move around and dance. My experience was similar to the scene in Toy Story where the toys come to life and scare Cid. "We toys, can see evveerrytthiingg, so play, Niice." That experience definitely was a large factor in me starting to doubt a purely materialist explanation for the experience.
Once you smoke large amounts of DMT eyes OPEN and stare at the objects in your room it really starts to seem less and less likely that its just a hallucination and nothing more.

While this was happening i was having an internal dialogue with voices in my head which were telling me about coherent concepts that i have never heard of before and had to look up so there is that too. I don't know what to make of it but my experiences scream to me that this is a genuine mystical experience and not just a product of physical mechanisms only.

While on DMT and looking at the electronic equipment in my basement it seems much more likely that im in some sort of holographic simulation and my room and reality feels like it turns into 3dstudio max (3d modelling program) where i can alter and change/morph objects into highly complex looking alien technology.
One visual effect on objects is i experienced them tessellating.




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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23372536 - 06/23/16 05:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I LIKE THAT DEEP DREAM STUFF


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    #23372693 - 06/23/16 07:26 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I always see faces everywhere on all the surfaces every time I do mushrooms or acid. I've never seen just eyes though.


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    #23372706 - 06/23/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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It's extra annoying to me because I'm an artist/highly visual person, so a big part of what intrigued me about psychedelics was the potential for visions/visuals. For that very reason I'm getting a bit tired of LSD and Mushrooms not paying off. Time for DMT  :sagetrip:




I've heard of people having that problem with LSD but never with mushrooms. They're such an extremely visual drug. Mushrooms have never failed me in the visual department.


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    #23372821 - 06/23/16 08:02 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I always see eyes when I eat enough mushrooms. Eyes were sprouting and blinking out of my fingers during my last trip,





its funny you said this actually because i drew this sketch after a mushrooms trip in my beginner tripper days back in like 2010


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    #23374614 - 06/23/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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aha yeah just a hunch. Ive just experienced bizarre things that have me doubt that it only has to do with straight neuroscience.

also im heavy into studying the archetypes that occur in the dmt state and other psychedelic states.

for example i have a youtube channel which talks about people who experience clowns and jesters on dmt and im getting MANY people comment also saying they experienced a clown or jester on dmt and other psychedelic for that matter.
So our psychedelic pareidolia for some unknown strange reason has a habit of producing clown imagery.
I even had one commentor saying he had a friend who claims he was attack by a jester.
this is the quote
Quote:

Yeah I stopped letting people try dmt when I gave my sisters bf some and he had an odd trip. He still won't tell us the full story of what happened, but he said that jesters held him down and told him not to move until he heard a sound. He doesn't even wanna try it again...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snvo6i930pY




but i think the main convincing element is somewhat unexplainable things that happened to me while in these states.
So my experiences bias me towards the idea of non-locality of consciousness despite how badly people want to demonize the concept and the ones supporting it. So i'll wear my fool badge with pride :smile:

Also i have a tough time trying to figure out how neuroscience alone has the ability to morph and bring objects to life and start to move around and dance. My experience was similar to the scene in Toy Story where the toys come to life and scare Cid. "We toys, can see evveerrytthiingg, so play, Niice." That experience definitely was a large factor in me starting to doubt a purely materialist explanation for the experience.
Once you smoke large amounts of DMT eyes OPEN and stare at the objects in your room it really starts to seem less and less likely that its just a hallucination and nothing more.

While this was happening i was having an internal dialogue with voices in my head which were telling me about coherent concepts that i have never heard of before and had to look up so there is that too. I don't know what to make of it but my experiences scream to me that this is a genuine mystical experience and not just a product of physical mechanisms only.

While on DMT and looking at the electronic equipment in my basement it seems much more likely that im in some sort of holographic simulation and my room and reality feels like it turns into 3dstudio max (3d modelling program) where i can alter and change/morph objects into highly complex looking alien technology.
One visual effect on objects is i experienced them tessellating.







That was an interesting read, thanks for sharing your perspective :hippie: I appreciate the drawings of the visuals. That sketch of the hand is pretty much spot on, too. I tried running a bunch of photos of hands through an online deep dream generator, but I couldn't find a very good example. This is about the best I could manage




It's actually pretty good at generating other eye-related visions. Check out some of this stuff:





















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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Matai]
    #23374898 - 06/23/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

woah the van gogh painting looks sick with deep dream, and i appreciate the kind works :cheers:


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    #23375656 - 06/23/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yes and i think they are an archetype representing consciousness.


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    #23375667 - 06/23/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

care to elaborate?


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Broly]
    #23375986 - 06/24/16 03:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I have on shrooms. It looked almost exactly like the cover of "DMT The Spirit Molecule" book. This was before I even seen it. This post gave me a vision how all of us are connected to this website from all over the world and staring at this two dimensional screen. I don't even know you people. What a trip!


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: SleepyE]
    #23375992 - 06/24/16 03:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Check out the van gogh painting recently done on water. The guy actually painted on water. It is amazing!


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Psychogenic]
    #23378132 - 06/24/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Sure i will elaborate....

So eyes an archetype, well one thing ill poiny out to start is that i believe it was jung who theorized that humans across the world tend to come up with very similiar archetypes.

Jung believed that the human psyche consisted of universal mythical characters (or archetypes) within the collective unconscious of people the world over.

The repeating eye as an archetype jung interpreted this as "the mandala"
The mandala of the repeating eye or "the mandala" refers to "the psychological expression of the totality of the self"

In jungs words "the severe pattern imposed by a circular image of this kind compensates the disorder and confusion of the psychic state...namely, through the construction of a central point to which everything is related"
The central point is the absolute seat of the self (or what you might call the soul, or godhead)

The eye symbolizes seeing and light, and therefore consciousness itself. The eye is the gateway between worlds it takes in the universes pure energy...light and presents it to the inner spirit.

As lsd is mind expanding and a way to percieve reality in a new way.

And, therefore, I believe it is a common hallucination to see mandalas made of eyes


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