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Ezuma
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: trvptamine]
#23370826 - 06/22/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I never see eyes, yet my friends ALWAYS do  In general I tend to have very few hallucinations though, like while my friends are seeing the trees turn into people and the grass turn into mouths and needles I see faint little patterns occasionally, and that's about it. Sucks ass really. Even closed eyes get me much less than I'd expect. Doesn't seem to matter dose either, 2g mushies, 4 g, a single tab, two, three... makes little difference, all that happens with higher doses is my head gets more fucked up *sniff*
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Broly]
#23370857 - 06/22/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Broly said: Truth the eyes i see are very similar to that pic. Dude long boarding on L is a breeze i go so fast and can cover some mad distance on one.. it's a lot of fun.
That's a for sure dope visual man sounded like a blast.
I resonate with your username , some dabs and kratom and im a damn sloth hahaha. i want to try dabs kratom and L soon , like 2 tabs 3 grams of kratom and smoking like 4 dabs.
Yea brother, Long boarding on a beautiful night is my newish found love. Nothing like just trusting your self and bombing a hill. It's super exhilarating.
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Ezuma]
#23370860 - 06/22/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: I never see eyes, yet my friends ALWAYS do  In general I tend to have very few hallucinations though, like while my friends are seeing the trees turn into people and the grass turn into mouths and needles I see faint little patterns occasionally, and that's about it. Sucks ass really. Even closed eyes get me much less than I'd expect. Doesn't seem to matter dose either, 2g mushies, 4 g, a single tab, two, three... makes little difference, all that happens with higher doses is my head gets more fucked up *sniff* 
I think some people really just don't get full on visual experiences from psychedelics. I have a friend like that also
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: trvptamine]
#23370874 - 06/22/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's extra annoying to me because I'm an artist/highly visual person, so a big part of what intrigued me about psychedelics was the potential for visions/visuals. For that very reason I'm getting a bit tired of LSD and Mushrooms not paying off. Time for DMT
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Ezuma]
#23370895 - 06/22/16 06:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I sometimes notice certain trips have very little noticeable visuals, even though I would take my normal dose of acid.
Not sure why it is, but it seemed to have been becoming a more and more common thing for me but the last trip I had off of 2 tabs of that team trust LSD, and I didn't get the insane visual explosion of awesomeness until about 3 hours into the trip. I turned on some loud music and the visuals went fuckin NUTS. I was seeing everything in my vision worp and move with every sound.
But anyways, yeah, I used to kind of feel the same about the visuals, like everyone else was getting stronger visuals than me. I have never taken less than 2 tabs aside from when I would candyflip, and I get really good acid. Sometimes just a change of setting or turning on music (or hell even turning it up louder) can really change the visuals, and make them stronger or weaker.
Now I still get almost NO closed eyed visuals from LSD. I'm not sure why this is, but when I close my eyes on acid i don't really see much more than just the blackness of my eyelids and some "distant" patterns and shapes, but when I open my eyes there would be those all over everything. Shrooms seem to give me much better CEVs though.
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Ezuma]
#23370934 - 06/22/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm kind of the same , dabs or potent Christmas trees can make the trip have more depth and spur visuals for me though. Soon I'm gonna take like 2-3 tabs to see if I can get crazy visuals. One of my strongest visuals opened eyed was my body melting and stuff melting. Then also the lake became one dimensional with the background. For me I get intense emotions and feelings of energy , of the planet and surroundings... more then visuals.
but I think 2-3 tabs and Christmas trees will get me to visual land.
Try dxm for closed eye visuals and smoke a lot of Christmas trees. Smoked some fat blunts and was on 540 mg saw the fabric of DNA white and blue nd became part of it zoomed in on it and I became part of it. Then there was the time I kind of became one with christ in prayer and I was eyeing lights and a blue angel with a sword or some shit. Then another time where I was driving around a road by a mountain but parameric and there's was no car then a tunnel appeared and I became an eagle over a canyon like wtf.
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: SleepyE]
#23371078 - 06/22/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: I think the geometry and landscapes and visions involve a lot more than the mechanisms they assume. Not to mention the question of why the re-occurring archetypes. All this stuff is essentially lacking in a conclusion until we figure out the true nature of consciousness and why matter can mysteriously become aware and conscious through us.
What makes you think that there's more to geometric hallucinations other than simple (well, complex) neuroscience? Is it just a hunch of yours based on experience, or do you have some specific problem with their arguments and analysis? What exactly do you think they're assuming, and what do you think they're not taking into consideration?
I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying -- I'm just interested in why you're of that opinion.
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Broly]
#23371110 - 06/22/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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@ezuma Yeah DMT is definitely an extremely visual experience I just don't see anybody not having intense visuals on it. Also if you aren't scared of taking some of the more dangerous psychedelics then try the nbome compounds. Especially 25b-nbome. Its one of the most visual psychedelics Ive been on. Ive just been on one dose of it before and looked at the night sky and it turned red and all the stars made a giant mayan god type thing with six arms that were waving back and forth. extremely visual even with open eyes. Also this is more on topic, on 25b-nbome ive been sitting across the living room from my friend on a couch before and a giant blue geometric eye opened up in thin air right in front of his face
@gottaloveacid I agree. For me LSD is just not an extremely visual psychedelic in general. To me its more about the thought process it puts me through. Mushrooms are highly visual for me though especially with closed eyes.
@broly Weed makes any trip more viual and just more intense in general for me. I used to not feel weed no matter how much I would smoke while tripping. And I guess I still don't necessarily feel the weed high while im tripping but now it just intensifies the fuck out of a trip
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: trvptamine]
#23371731 - 06/22/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I always saw eyes, or a collection of elongated upward pointing eye shapes when I took enough lsd to trip very nicely.
It fits into the chain link geometry like clockwork. It happens to look like aliens staring at you in the dark on the peak.
I feel like it's because lsd speaks in triangles and a less specific receding fractal geometries.
Lsd has pointed teeth too. I always noticed that when I took more than I expected.
I still remember humanoids staring at me if I chose to peer into them. I had a few paintings that always did the same thing unless it was a research chemical, well before internet research chemicals were a thing.
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Matai]
#23372202 - 06/23/16 01:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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SleepyE said: I think the geometry and landscapes and visions involve a lot more than the mechanisms they assume. Not to mention the question of why the re-occurring archetypes. All this stuff is essentially lacking in a conclusion until we figure out the true nature of consciousness and why matter can mysteriously become aware and conscious through us.
What makes you think that there's more to geometric hallucinations other than simple (well, complex) neuroscience? Is it just a hunch of yours based on experience, or do you have some specific problem with their arguments and analysis? What exactly do you think they're assuming, and what do you think they're not taking into consideration?
I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying -- I'm just interested in why you're of that opinion.
aha yeah just a hunch. Ive just experienced bizarre things that have me doubt that it only has to do with straight neuroscience.
also im heavy into studying the archetypes that occur in the dmt state and other psychedelic states.
for example i have a youtube channel which talks about people who experience clowns and jesters on dmt and im getting MANY people comment also saying they experienced a clown or jester on dmt and other psychedelic for that matter. So our psychedelic pareidolia for some unknown strange reason has a habit of producing clown imagery. I even had one commentor saying he had a friend who claims he was attack by a jester. this is the quote
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Yeah I stopped letting people try dmt when I gave my sisters bf some and he had an odd trip. He still won't tell us the full story of what happened, but he said that jesters held him down and told him not to move until he heard a sound. He doesn't even wanna try it again... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snvo6i930pY
but i think the main convincing element is somewhat unexplainable things that happened to me while in these states. So my experiences bias me towards the idea of non-locality of consciousness despite how badly people want to demonize the concept and the ones supporting it. So i'll wear my fool badge with pride 
Also i have a tough time trying to figure out how neuroscience alone has the ability to morph and bring objects to life and start to move around and dance. My experience was similar to the scene in Toy Story where the toys come to life and scare Cid. "We toys, can see evveerrytthiingg, so play, Niice." That experience definitely was a large factor in me starting to doubt a purely materialist explanation for the experience. Once you smoke large amounts of DMT eyes OPEN and stare at the objects in your room it really starts to seem less and less likely that its just a hallucination and nothing more.
While this was happening i was having an internal dialogue with voices in my head which were telling me about coherent concepts that i have never heard of before and had to look up so there is that too. I don't know what to make of it but my experiences scream to me that this is a genuine mystical experience and not just a product of physical mechanisms only.
While on DMT and looking at the electronic equipment in my basement it seems much more likely that im in some sort of holographic simulation and my room and reality feels like it turns into 3dstudio max (3d modelling program) where i can alter and change/morph objects into highly complex looking alien technology. One visual effect on objects is i experienced them tessellating.


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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: SleepyE] 1
#23372536 - 06/23/16 05:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I LIKE THAT DEEP DREAM STUFF
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Broly]
#23372693 - 06/23/16 07:26 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I always see faces everywhere on all the surfaces every time I do mushrooms or acid. I've never seen just eyes though.
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Ezuma]
#23372706 - 06/23/16 07:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: It's extra annoying to me because I'm an artist/highly visual person, so a big part of what intrigued me about psychedelics was the potential for visions/visuals. For that very reason I'm getting a bit tired of LSD and Mushrooms not paying off. Time for DMT 
I've heard of people having that problem with LSD but never with mushrooms. They're such an extremely visual drug. Mushrooms have never failed me in the visual department.
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SleepyE
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Matai]
#23372821 - 06/23/16 08:02 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Matai said: I always see eyes when I eat enough mushrooms. Eyes were sprouting and blinking out of my fingers during my last trip,
its funny you said this actually because i drew this sketch after a mushrooms trip in my beginner tripper days back in like 2010
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: SleepyE] 1
#23374614 - 06/23/16 05:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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SleepyE said:
aha yeah just a hunch. Ive just experienced bizarre things that have me doubt that it only has to do with straight neuroscience.
also im heavy into studying the archetypes that occur in the dmt state and other psychedelic states.
for example i have a youtube channel which talks about people who experience clowns and jesters on dmt and im getting MANY people comment also saying they experienced a clown or jester on dmt and other psychedelic for that matter. So our psychedelic pareidolia for some unknown strange reason has a habit of producing clown imagery. I even had one commentor saying he had a friend who claims he was attack by a jester. this is the quote
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Yeah I stopped letting people try dmt when I gave my sisters bf some and he had an odd trip. He still won't tell us the full story of what happened, but he said that jesters held him down and told him not to move until he heard a sound. He doesn't even wanna try it again... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Snvo6i930pY
but i think the main convincing element is somewhat unexplainable things that happened to me while in these states. So my experiences bias me towards the idea of non-locality of consciousness despite how badly people want to demonize the concept and the ones supporting it. So i'll wear my fool badge with pride 
Also i have a tough time trying to figure out how neuroscience alone has the ability to morph and bring objects to life and start to move around and dance. My experience was similar to the scene in Toy Story where the toys come to life and scare Cid. "We toys, can see evveerrytthiingg, so play, Niice." That experience definitely was a large factor in me starting to doubt a purely materialist explanation for the experience. Once you smoke large amounts of DMT eyes OPEN and stare at the objects in your room it really starts to seem less and less likely that its just a hallucination and nothing more.
While this was happening i was having an internal dialogue with voices in my head which were telling me about coherent concepts that i have never heard of before and had to look up so there is that too. I don't know what to make of it but my experiences scream to me that this is a genuine mystical experience and not just a product of physical mechanisms only.
While on DMT and looking at the electronic equipment in my basement it seems much more likely that im in some sort of holographic simulation and my room and reality feels like it turns into 3dstudio max (3d modelling program) where i can alter and change/morph objects into highly complex looking alien technology. One visual effect on objects is i experienced them tessellating.


That was an interesting read, thanks for sharing your perspective I appreciate the drawings of the visuals. That sketch of the hand is pretty much spot on, too. I tried running a bunch of photos of hands through an online deep dream generator, but I couldn't find a very good example. This is about the best I could manage

It's actually pretty good at generating other eye-related visions. Check out some of this stuff:



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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Matai]
#23374898 - 06/23/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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woah the van gogh painting looks sick with deep dream, and i appreciate the kind works
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: SleepyE] 1
#23375656 - 06/23/16 11:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes and i think they are an archetype representing consciousness.
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: LuckeyMA]
#23375667 - 06/23/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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care to elaborate?
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: Broly]
#23375986 - 06/24/16 03:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have on shrooms. It looked almost exactly like the cover of "DMT The Spirit Molecule" book. This was before I even seen it. This post gave me a vision how all of us are connected to this website from all over the world and staring at this two dimensional screen. I don't even know you people. What a trip!
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Re: seeing eyes on objects on L [Re: SleepyE]
#23375992 - 06/24/16 03:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Check out the van gogh painting recently done on water. The guy actually painted on water. It is amazing!
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