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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: 7munkee]
    #23593834 - 08/30/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

With respect to all posters here, I think there is a misunderstanding of what the OP is trying to achieve.

OP is trying to microdose - that is anywhere from 0.1 to 0.5g of dry shrooms or more.  Fresh shrooms are supposed to be 90% water so multiply by ten to dose fresh.  It is not meant to make you hallucinate or in any way feel trippy.  I have limited experience with microdosing - I'm a complete newbie following PF tek to experiment with microdosing myself.

With that said, it is difficult for any of us to know what was 'wrong' with your experience.  If you are unsure of the spores you were sent, the usual thing to do would be photo some of the mushrooms and get help identifying them to make sure they're active.  But if you've dried and bagged them for 6 months they might not be identifiable.  Perhaps if you still have any of the spores and a microscope, it might be possible to identify them (anyone confirm that?)

I only microdosed once but if it helps you understand how you should feel i'll briefly describe it:
- usual feelings of irritability melting into the background
- same for tenseness
- worries and sadness were not in my mind
- not concerned with how others perceiving me
- interested in things that i used to enjoy pre-depression rather than underwhelmed or bored by them (e.g. i suddenly became really excited about taking apart my broken shaver to figure out how to fix it, things i used to do before i was depressed)
- no compulsion whatsoever to use marijuana (something i've also used for relaxation, sleep and appetite whilst depressed and suffering digestive diseases)
-- but none of it felt unusual or different, it just felt like i could truly relax, it was like having a nice, average day in my pre-depression state

It's tough to gauge this because the dose is so subtle, but you shouldn't essentially "feel" anything and if you were feeling uplifted and good anyway you may not have noticed anything.  If i wasn't so introspective and analytical, or spent so much time wrestling with my depression, i may not have noticed the difference straight away.  Many prescribed medicines take several weeks to kick in, doctors won't gauge whether a medication is working based on one day using it.

If you're on SSRI's that can change the effect, but if you stop SSRI's make sure you do it correctly - with many anti depressants we have to be weened off them.

Best of luck hope i helped.  Whilst people here may or may not know much about depression or microdosing, what they do know is mushroom facts.  So for example they can clear up whether or not your storage allowed the potency to drop significantly, or whether a mushroom is the type you think it is, etc. if you're clear and ask the right questions!


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Inocuole]
    #23593867 - 08/30/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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denise1904 said:
Also, excuse my ignorance but what exactly is an eighth?





Are you SURE you belong on a drug forum?




I first learned what an eight was in high school.

miss denise... I do not mean to be a dick but it almost sounds
like you are either not educated on the matter or not ready for it.
I too deal with issues and DMT(what the brain converts mushie goodness into) is a great tool. HOWEVER just like anything else the more you
read and know about what is going on/what YOU are doing the better
off you will be.

also... shouldnt this be in the psych/xp forum????


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: mushboy]
    #23596628 - 08/31/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, it should.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Inocuole]
    #23596670 - 08/31/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Damn drug fiends be trolling. Play nice inoc or Ima whip you.

@terrytate; 0.1g dry would be a microdose if you weighed like 20kg. I need 0.5g of PE for a microdose.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23596704 - 08/31/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Damn drug fiends be trolling. Play nice inoc or Ima whip you.

@terrytate; 0.1g dry would be a microdose if you weighed like 20kg. I need 0.5g of PE for a microdose.




I take your point - but all anyone can do is given an approximate range.  This person is both new to psychadelics and has certain depression or anxiety related mental illnesses.  I figured it was better to be cautious when advising someone in that kind of situation.  I have similar issues, I know how fine the balance can be sometimes, i wouldn't want my advice to scare someone off the medicine.

There's no accounting for someone's constitution though - you're right, some people may take a lot more, i've added "and upwards" so it's more accurate.  I do think the range i highlight is audience appropriate though.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: TerryTate]
    #23596732 - 08/31/16 08:46 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't go below 0.4-5g dry with a regular cube, even if it's a first attempt at microdosing. I'm not someone with an incredibly high resistance or tolerance to mushrooms but still, the doses we are talking about are pretty low. I ingest 2-3 capsules with 0.3-5g each with a weaker cube for a microdose. A single tightly stuffed capsule with PE is perfect for microdosing IME.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Supalemonhaze] * 1
    #23596785 - 08/31/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I wouldn't go below 0.4-5g dry with a regular cube, even if it's a first attempt at microdosing. I'm not someone with an incredibly high resistance or tolerance to mushrooms but still, the doses we are talking about are pretty low. I ingest 2-3 capsules with 0.3-5g each with a weaker cube for a microdose. A single tightly stuffed capsule with PE is perfect for microdosing IME.




I'm thinking you don't understand microdosing.  You're not.. even really supposed to feel anything.  If you're eating over half a gram of anything, that's not a microdose anymore.  That's a light dose at that point, enough to make some people trip.  If a gram of PE makes me trip, then a half gram will make me half-trip, which is pretty uncomfortable comparatively.

That goes for OP too really.  If microdosing isn't doing anything for you, then it could simply be that consuming tiny amounts of psychedelic drugs isn't for everyone.  That or you aren't self-aware enough to notice the tiny differences that you'd feel from 0.1-0.2 grams.  I'd think it more likely to work if you actually get a big dose in so you know how strong they are first though.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Inocuole]
    #23596805 - 08/31/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have to disagree with that. Microdosing for me is far from a trip, if I didn't know what it was and you just told me to swallow it, I wouldn't even figure out it was mushrooms. There are no visuals or any kind of tripping feeling, you do feel something different though. Everything seems less boring somehow. I like microdoses for work mostly, for that reason.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23596812 - 08/31/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well if .5 of PE is a microdose for you I'd hate to think of how much you have to take for an actual dose...


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Inocuole]
    #23596821 - 08/31/16 09:21 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Not any insane amount, as I said, my resistance to mushrooms is average if I had to guess. Maybe slightly above average compared to the folks I tripped with.

I always start with 2g's when I trip and then take more over time. I can't handle a shitload of shrooms down the hatch at the same time, there's a strong possibility that they come back up.

Have you ever tried 0.5g of PE anyway? I mean, they are strong.... but not that strong.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23596828 - 08/31/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I usually don't even need 1.5g of the good PE and APE.  Regular cubes I'm sure I could just eat 4 grams to start with and it'd be ehh okay.  I haven't eaten any of those in a while now though..


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Inocuole]
    #23596845 - 08/31/16 09:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Seriously? But for a mild trip you mean? Last time I ate enough PE for a strong trip I took somewhere around 5-6g in all, in about a 2hr window or so. It was pretty intense but not too strong where you can't even have a conversation or anything. With Martinique I have to take double that amount but that one is pretty damn weak.

You either have some crazy potent PE clone or you have the resistance of a cat :rofl:


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23596858 - 08/31/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

A little of both probably.  I can definitely get further than some others on the same dose.  My PE and APE are both pretty stellar though too.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Inocuole]
    #23596903 - 08/31/16 09:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

i think a lot of it has to also do with body weight and % body fat.

I am a tall fat dude, and it always takes me more compared to smaller guys or chicks.

A good friend, regular tripping partner is probably 40lbs lighter than I am, but an inch taller, he is just lean.  I will brew up a tea, I'll drink 60% he'll have 40% and he will still trip harder than me.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: guyute22]
    #23597049 - 08/31/16 10:38 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

haze, it sounds like your PE isn't super potent like some others.

I microdose around .3g of creeper every few days. I feel almost like a twinge of excitement, and my pupils dialate. But otherwise, I'm not trippin'. I think that's the whole point of the microdose.

I accidentally micro'd around .6g when I was dosing consistently, and found I was starting to have some issues finishing sentences and stuff :tongue:

Maybe my shrooms were just a bit stronger. Who even knows? Until we have more quantifiable methods of standardizing potency levels, it's all mostly hearsay.

But I feel a microdose should be just barely felt if at all.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: dankington]
    #23597151 - 08/31/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I have given people 1/4 gram doses of APE that they said was just right. A 2 gram dose of my best APE makes most average people shit themselves. Literally they need new pants.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23597165 - 08/31/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's why I was so confused. I remember FrankHorrigan saying he was trying to microdose with PE… doesn't seem to work as well :lol:

I definitely feel .5g of PE. Maybe a lvl 1 or so, but it's totally there.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23597949 - 08/31/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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A 2 gram dose of my best APE makes most average people shit themselves. Literally they need new pants.



:yeahthatsright:

That's what I'm saying.


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