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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: medieval]
    #23371068 - 06/22/16 07:36 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I will normally take a minimum of 2 grams to get a very mild "trip".



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you might feel a bit off about a gram if you're smoking weed or drinking with it, but under a half eighth of cubes and it'll be extremely underwhelming


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23371080 - 06/22/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I get decent OEVs and pretty good CEVs with like 1 gram of some of mine so... whatever homies.  Telling anybody else what might be underwhelming for them is just... not something you can really do.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Inocuole]
    #23371118 - 06/22/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I get decent OEVs and pretty good CEVs with like 1 gram of some of mine so... whatever homies.  Telling anybody else what might be underwhelming for them is just... not something you can really do.



Damn, maybe yours are really good genetics. Off 1g i feel just stoned. I'm just getting into cloning some potent clusters so i'm sure that'll help. But 1.75+ is when i start to get slight oevs and decent cevs. Honestly theres so many factors, (genetics, drying method, storage, etc) when it comes to this it's hard to give accurate non-anecdotal opinions.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #23372278 - 06/23/16 02:38 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Hi,

Thanks to all of you for your responses and your advice.  I did dry the mushrooms with a fan and then I baked Epsom salts in an oven and then put the mushrooms in a container with the Epsom salts underneath and stored the mushrooms in a drawer in the dark.  So I do think that I dried them properly.  Next time I will try eating them straight away when they are fresh.  That's if I can manage to grow them again.

I'm just wondering if the spore syringe that I got was not the real thing.  I will post a photo up later on and would appreciate it if you could let me know if they look like the real thing.

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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: denise1904]
    #23372543 - 06/23/16 06:04 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ayahuasca doesn't generally cure depression, it just lifts it for a week or two. Recommending ayahuasca to strangers on the internet is irresponsible. Looking for a "trusted shaman" is naive.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Orgasmatron]
    #23372608 - 06/23/16 06:47 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Fan drying and desiccate is a terrible way to dry if you are looking to preserve potency.

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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23372610 - 06/23/16 06:49 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Lol I walked into a convince store tripping and it was like shelves of color


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #23372640 - 06/23/16 07:04 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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The people that have to take an eighth, I just feel sorry for them




Nobody "has" to eat an eigth lol :wink:

I at a quarter once, just to see what was up....once :crazy2:




I do.. A gram does almost nothing for me. An eighth is a decent trip, but quite underwhelming.
I don't trip often either, that is just my natural tolerance.




im with this guy.. while i DO take a low dose of xanax each morning for anxiety and shit i doubt its having THAT much of an effect on my overall trip. it always kicks fast, come up strong, and a nice level strong trip; just the way i like it.

but anything under 3.5g IS a complete waste IN MY OPINION. everyone is different so dont flame me for saying that lol. i personally enjoy 7g doses as my PERFECT dose. and that is what i stick with on most occasions. (tbh im only guessing its about 7g. i like to eat about 4 grams to start. and then redose every 30-45 minutes till i feel exactly how i want to feel. id say i eat between 1-2g for each redose which i do once or twice. by the second redose im usually feeling super great (:< i dont usually weigh out my doses though. i have MUCH more fun without weighing them.)


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23372683 - 06/23/16 07:24 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Not sure if it's the "wrong" variety for a microdose but I took about .4g dry of PE before work a couple weeks ago and it was awesome. Definitely not high, no visuals or anything but you definitely do feel different. I just recently started filling capsules and tried them with martinique. I noticed I need to eat 3 gel caps to feel the same way I did with the PE, might just be building a tolerance though. I like microdosing because you're still 100% and work isn't as boring as it is normally.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23372843 - 06/23/16 08:10 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Everyone has different experiences with different doses in different environments. I'm not flaming ya buddy :wink:


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Myko Fanatikos]
    #23372939 - 06/23/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

There's wild mush that comes in from BC a few times a year that will give you serious visuals at 2g and waves of uphoria.

Not for a novice at all. Wondering if they are Pans... Think some are around today and will get some plates done up.


My PESA requires an eighth to be a level 2.5 to 3. Did a half oz lemon tek with 3 close friends over the course of an evening.  Used the 'grounds' after as a 'salsa'  with doritos near the end.  Flavor was great partially due to my modded tek in my journal.


Stones 14g fresh with Rue was fantabulous.


But everyone's chemistry is a little different


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Inocuole]
    #23373111 - 06/23/16 09:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I get decent OEVs and pretty good CEVs with like 1 gram of some of mine so... whatever homies.  Telling anybody else what might be underwhelming for them is just... not something you can really do.




:whathesaid: This is common sense and I agree.

I don't trip (hallucinate) on .20-.30 you're not supposed to, its a micro-dose, but do I feel any effects? Hell yes I do, it's significant in its own way. Anyone that doesn't believe in the effectiveness of micro-dosing, please Google "James Fadiman microdosing" - the dude wrote a book on it with many many professionals writing about their experiences.

Terrance McKenna said it best when he referenced people taking mushrooms recreationally, like at music festivals, he said "you must be out of your mind". My opinion is that mushrooms in high doses are not meant for recreation, it is and should be treated as much more then that. Why do you think Terence would eat them alone in darkness? If you want to treat it differently that's fine, it is your right to do with them as you please, but I feel that they deserve MUCH more respect. Now I am guilty of taking mushrooms at concerts where there are incredible visualizations, like the latest Tool concert I attended, but the dose was small (.5) - not an eighth.

If you can take an eighth at a festival and have a ball and compose yourself then go for it - I am not hating on you at all. Different strokes for different folks. We are all adults here. My point is please try to refrain from telling someone that X dose will be underwhelming, because really you have no fucking idea what may be underwhelming to that person.

I always suggest to people that I give mushrooms to: start with a gram or less, then go from there once you have established a baseline.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Perception7]
    #23373123 - 06/23/16 10:00 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I won't trip with anything when there's people who aren't tripping around. Even if they are my friends but especially if they are strangers. Acid is even worse, I feel so uncomfortable with acid around straight folk.

I know others that just love to take it in nightclubs and concerts, some even high doses.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Perception7]
    #23373135 - 06/23/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Inocuole said:
I get decent OEVs and pretty good CEVs with like 1 gram of some of mine so... whatever homies.  Telling anybody else what might be underwhelming for them is just... not something you can really do.




:whathesaid: This is common sense and I agree.

I don't trip (hallucinate) on .20-.30 you're not supposed to, its a micro-dose, but do I feel any effects? Hell yes I do, it's significant in its own way. Anyone that doesn't believe in the effectiveness of micro-dosing, please Google "James Fadiman microdosing" - the dude wrote a book on it with many many professionals writing about their experiences.

Terrance McKenna said it best when he referenced people taking mushrooms recreationally, like at music festivals, he said "you must be out of your mind". My opinion is that mushrooms in high doses are not meant for recreation, it is and should be treated as much more then that. Why do you think Terence would eat them alone in darkness? If you want to treat it differently that's fine, it is your right to do with them as you please, but I feel that they deserve MUCH more respect. Now I am guilty of taking mushrooms at concerts where there are incredible visualizations, like the latest Tool concert I attended, but the dose was small (.5) - not an eighth.

If you can take an eighth at a festival and have a ball and compose yourself then go for it - I am not hating on you at all. Different strokes for different folks. We are all adults here. My point is please try to refrain from telling someone that X dose will be underwhelming, because really you have no fucking idea what may be underwhelming to that person.

I always suggest to people that I give mushrooms to: start with a gram or less, then go from there once you have established a baseline.




just my experience. but recreational/festivals etc. i like to take MDMA/2-ci type chemicals. LSD can be fun too when mixed with MDMA for partying. mushrooms though. i either like up to 5-7g(my good friends usually wont mess with over 3.5 but w/e) with a few friends on a camp-out or something similar. long fishing trip etc. but when i trip on my own(which is majority of the time). i like to take bigger doses and become super introspective. think about my future and what i want for myself and my life. it gets jumbled over the course of the trip and i find myself forgetting what it is i thought up in the first place. but most times it ends up being a fundamental and fun trip lol.

at my age now though i dont really eat mushrooms like i used to. while i still enjoy bigger doses, i dont go eating mushrooms ALL the time like i did at one point. once every couple months, or even less, is more than enough for me :smile:


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: MycoLoopology]
    #23373174 - 06/23/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

@ myco - yeah I have one friend that can eat mushrooms all night and the dude doesn't break a sweat. I think some people are just genetically capable of very high doses. My dad for instance didn't feel shit on an eighth according to my uncle when they ate some as teenagers - everyone tripped out except him.

Some people can keep their composure during extremely stressful situations, as mushrooms can cause temporary psychosis, so it may not be all genetics related, it also could be in combination with accepting the new landscape and releasing control.

A lot of bad trips happen cause the mind doesn't want to release control, and psilocybin causes a fight or flight reaction in the brain, I feel it happen during meditation on microdoses, its like someone flipping on a light switch in my brain. I just tell myself its cool, these alkaloids are here to help, not harm, and the fear flees like a bird flying overhead through the sky.

Your introspective thinking on 7g is what I do on 1g or .2 haha, on 7g I would have ego-death all over again and couldn't tell you my name, you can forget introspective thoughts for awhile :lol:


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Perception7]
    #23373218 - 06/23/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Syrian Rue extract would likely help.  Biochemical differences should only be enzyme related.  Breaking down the psilocybin


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Snazz] * 1
    #23373234 - 06/23/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Well I'm sure medications play a big role. SSRI's and benzos affect a trip heavily.
I've found even small amounts of alcohol affect the trip a lot too. With alcohol or benzos, they allow me to ingest much more than I could normally.

Also, what you said about barriers, Perception. Some people need more because they can't let themselves go.

Back to OP, a microdose isn't meant to be enough to trip though. That's not the point of the microdose at all.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: dankington]
    #23373326 - 06/23/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Well I'm sure medications play a big role. SSRI's and benzos affect a trip heavily.
I've found even small amounts of alcohol affect the trip a lot too. With alcohol or benzos, they allow me to ingest much more than I could normally.

Also, what you said about barriers, Perception. Some people need more because they can't let themselves go.

Back to OP, a microdose isn't meant to be enough to trip though. That's not the point of the microdose at all.




it very well could be the benzos(though i take only .25-.5mg each morning. never more). but the mushrooms DEFINITELY still effect me plenty haha. i DO think the benzos help with staying completely calm. but truly i believe it comes down to just accepting that youve jumped in the hole, and whether you like it or not, youre along for the ride.

as soon as i remember and accept that ive just taken a substance that is going to possibly send me into space, i calm right down and enjoy the ride. i think this way when it comes to a lot of life though... life is just a ride you know?


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: dankington]
    #23373436 - 06/23/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Back to OP, a microdose isn't meant to be enough to trip though. That's not the point of the microdose at all.




Don't think she was talking about tripping, she was hoping to alleviate at least some of the depression.

When I said that I feel a microdose, I didn't mean tripping either. There are no visuals, I am not "high", just mildly effected and slightly more positive. I am not suffering from any kind of mental disease, I only take microdoses to make my very boring job just a little less boring. No way in hell I am going to eat enough to become even just a little genuinely tripped out. I loathe being around people when I'm tripping, unless they are also tripping. A microdose is different though, even though I feel it's effects ever so slightly, it's like an altogether different drug.


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Re: Didn't feel anything [Re: Orgasmatron]
    #23373455 - 06/23/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Ayahuasca doesn't generally cure depression, it just lifts it for a week or two. Recommending ayahuasca to strangers on the internet is irresponsible. Looking for a "trusted shaman" is naive.




I wasn't going to even bother replying to this, but I suppose I will for Denise's sake.

Ayahuasca has the ability to change your perception. The brew may cause you to see your situation in a more positive light, or allow you to change the things about yourself you don't like, or summon the courage to leave a lover that is abusive. The key word here is "may", there is no absolute cure for depression.

I told Denise to consider drinking ayahuasca, I didn't tell her to do it. There are a lot of "shamans" that are swindlers that take advantage of foreigners, it happens everyday. When I say trusted shaman, I am referring to the guys who prepare the brew appropriately, because if the brew is made incorrectly it can kill you. Also when I say trusted shaman, I mean someone who has a report with the community, who has references, who has reviews... etc. You have to research throughly before participating in an ayahuasca ceremony.

If 100 depressed people volunteered to be involved in a test of the effectiveness of ayahuasca vs anti-depressants I wonder what the outcome would be? I'd put money on the idea that ayahuasca would be much more effective at curing depression on the whole, and would also prove to be a better answer to long term treatment.

That's my humble opinion.


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