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3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC
#23369022 - 06/22/16 04:26 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Three people were arrested with multiple loaded guns, knives and ballistic vests at the Holland Tunnel Tuesday when police stopped them for driving with a cracked windshield, authorities tell NBC 4 New York. Ida Siegal reports. (Published Tuesday, June 21, 2016) Three people were arrested with multiple loaded guns, knives and ballistic vests at the Holland Tunnel Tuesday when police stopped them for driving with a cracked windshield, authorities tell NBC 4 New York.
100 Drivers Blow Through NJ Stop Sign in 90 Minutes: Video John Cramsey, 50, and Dean Smith, 53, both of Zionsville, Pennsylvania, and Kimberly Arendt, 29, of Lehighton, were stopped on the New Jersey side of the tunnel around 8 a.m., authorities said.
A search of their vehicle -- a brightly colored Dodge utility vehicle with logo decals for Tonka, Monster energy drinks and another one that read "Higher Ground Tactical", apparently a gun range and shop in Emmaus, Pennsylvania -- revealed the weapons cache.
Police found a cache of guns and ammo in this truck after stopping it in the Holland Tunnel.
'Mass Hysteria' Causes Stampede at NYC Subway Station The guns seized included long-range weapons as well as handguns. A camouflage helmet with what appeared to be night goggles was also recovered.
Guns that were seized during a traffic stop in the Holland Tunnel on Tuesday. Two senior law enforcement officials say the three suspects are so-called "gun enthusiasts" and have no nexus to terror. There is no known threat.
Girlfriend Set on Fire in Front of Kids Drugs were in the vehicle along with the guns, according to one law enforcement official.
Cramsey wrote on Smith's Facebook page early Tuesday morning that he was driving to New York to "do an extraction" of a 16-year-old girl from a hotel room in Brooklyn after an issue involving drugs, The Associated Press reported. Smith replied, "I'm there." It was unclear what, if anything, the weapons had to do with their plans.
Cramsey's 20-year-old daughter died from a heroin overdose four months ago Tuesday and he has since attended town hall meetings around the Allentown area to voice his concerns over the drug epidemic, The Morning Call newspaper in Allentown, Pennsylvania, reported.
"This is a plague and we are losing our brightest and most brilliant minds," Cramsey told the newspaper shortly after his daughter was found dead of an overdose with another man inside an Allentown home.
The truck, which had a picture of the U.S. Constitution and the Second Amendment on the side and sported an arrow as an antenna, was impounded after the stop. It's not clear if the truck was owned by Higher Ground Tactical. NBC 4 New York has reached out to the company for comment.
The investigation is ongoing.
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Re: 3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC [Re: T-Rex]
#23369085 - 06/22/16 05:38 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Solid snake was planning an extraction?
I guess you lose a daughter like that and you even hear about drugs, you get your squad equipped with full tactical gear and weaponry, and you go get that 16 year old out of that brooklyn hotel room!
Wait, what?
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Re: 3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC [Re: T-Rex]
#23369276 - 06/22/16 08:05 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Had to read it twice, the article doesnt have a good flow i feel like, it kinda confused me for a sec how quickly the story changed. So what's the part about a girl on fire though?
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Re: 3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
#23369601 - 06/22/16 10:44 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Where's the link? This copy and paste is hard to follow.
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Re: 3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC [Re: afrogus]
#23369767 - 06/22/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Christ, if they strap up that hot to go stop a teeny-bopper from shooting smack, I'd hate to see what they'd have to stop a couple college kids in a dorm room from smoking a joint.
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Re: 3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#23370117 - 06/22/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Maybe, they were just exercising.
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Re: 3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#23371634 - 06/22/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Camwritesgonzo said:
Christ, if they strap up that hot to go stop a teeny-bopper from shooting smack, I'd hate to see what they'd have to stop a couple college kids in a dorm room from smoking a joint.
They were found in possession of pot and paraphernalia, one of the persons daughter had died from smack so they were going to whorehouses to stop them
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Re: 3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC [Re: Konyap] 1
#23372194 - 06/23/16 01:51 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Better copy and paste for you guys  
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Holland-Tunnel-Arrest-Weapon-Ammon-Ballistic-Vests-Terrorism-Investigation-New-York-383805691.html
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3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC
Two senior law enforcement officials say the three suspects are so-called "gun enthusiasts" and have no nexus to terror
Three people were arrested with multiple loaded guns, knives and ballistic vests at the Holland Tunnel Tuesday when police stopped them for driving with a cracked windshield, authorities tell NBC 4 New York.
John Cramsey, 50, and Dean Smith, 53, both of Zionsville, Pennsylvania, and Kimberly Arendt, 29, of Lehighton, were stopped on the New Jersey side of the tunnel around 8 a.m., authorities said.
A search of their vehicle -- a brightly colored Dodge utility vehicle with logo decals for Tonka, Monster energy drinks and another one that read "Higher Ground Tactical", apparently a gun range and shop in Emmaus, Pennsylvania -- revealed the weapons cache.

The guns seized included long-range weapons as well as handguns. A camouflage helmet with what appeared to be night goggles was also recovered.

Two senior law enforcement officials say the three suspects are so-called "gun enthusiasts" and have no nexus to terror. There is no known threat.
Drugs were in the vehicle along with the guns, according to one law enforcement official.
Cramsey wrote on Smith's Facebook page early Tuesday morning that he was driving to New York to "do an extraction" of a 16-year-old girl from a hotel room in Brooklyn after an issue involving drugs, The Associated Press reported. Smith replied, "I'm there." It was unclear what, if anything, the weapons had to do with their plans.
Cramsey's 20-year-old daughter died from a heroin overdose four months ago Tuesday and he has since attended town hall meetings around the Allentown area to voice his concerns over the drug epidemic, The Morning Call newspaper in Allentown, Pennsylvania, reported.
"This is a plague and we are losing our brightest and most brilliant minds," Cramsey told the newspaper shortly after his daughter was found dead of an overdose with another man inside an Allentown home.
The truck, which had a picture of the U.S. Constitution and the Second Amendment on the side and sported an arrow as an antenna, was impounded after the stop. It's not clear if the truck was owned by Higher Ground Tactical. NBC 4 New York has reached out to the company for comment.
The investigation is ongoing.
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Re: 3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC [Re: PanzerCubed]
#23372992 - 06/23/16 09:07 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It seems nonsensical, until you try and empathize with the person who had just lost a daughter. Of course theyd be protective but this is nuts. Maybe the 16 year old was one of the three's kid, or someone very close. Its still batshit crazy, just trying to make sense of it. But if its just a 16 year old with no real relation, and shes just in a hotel room, does not say anything about her being in danger. What would warrant that arsenal? Were they prepared to kill everyone in that hotel room (and just turn the hotel into a warzone?) ?? I mean, you lose a child, thats horrible, but why lead to more death?
The thing is, if the dude had a handgun, i can even empathize with that (perhaps a shady hotel? Okay.), but its 3 people, with full military gear getting ready for war. I feel like theres a missing piece to this story
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Re: 3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC [Re: Fractal420]
#23373900 - 06/23/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fractal420 said: It seems nonsensical, until you try and empathize with the person who had just lost a daughter.
It sounds like a "parallel construction" (fairytale), used to justify searching people, who were obviously carrying sporting goods. They broadcast it, in fluorescent colors (on the SUV, and read the ammo box).
In a separate case, a patsy has just turned himself in, for protection, yet noone seems to know how to prioritize.
These abuses are on the radar of foreign govts, who mainly choose not to pursue it, as it does not pertain to their own safety.
I keep my stuff, here. I have no death wish. But, we're notorious for these frame-ups, globally, as though it's a fact of life. Their dignitaries discuss it calmly, publicly, and try to make you aware, here. It's been called social revolution and is considered a civil rights issue.
Edited by durian_2008 (06/23/16 02:02 PM)
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Re: 3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC [Re: durian_2008]
#23374402 - 06/23/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You are saying you think they were set up? Maybe i am misunderstanding your point
Searching people? Like who? Just trying to understand what you meant. If i was a cop just trying to do my job and maybe try to protect some people today, and i see this car go by, "High Ground Tactical" in huge letters to begin with would certainly catch my eye. If the people inside were armed to the teeth, with loaded ammo, from a place in PA or something (i read the article fully, i just forget), why shouldnt they be pulled over?
my immediate suspicion in NYC would be a planned shooting, obviously. And it seems these people were ready for that if the story is true. I dont see any reason to believe otherwise so far (but im open minded to ideas lol)
The one thing that stands out, this case is strange
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Edited by Fractal420 (06/23/16 04:58 PM)
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Re: 3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC [Re: Konyap] 1
#23375191 - 06/23/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Konyap said: They were found in possession of pot and paraphernalia, one of the persons daughter had died from smack so they were going to whorehouses to stop them
Well, at least it goes to show Taxi Driver is still a well known classic.
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Re: 3 Arrested With Multiple Loaded Guns, Knives, Body Armor at Holland Tunnel on Way to NYC [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
#23376476 - 06/24/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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