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How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it?
    #23368373 - 06/21/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Friend of mine tried it a few weeks ago, said he might be getting more soon, he thought it was awesome but if I'm being honest I don't really know anything about it other then a quick google search I did 20 minutes ago and from what I've saw some people on here say about it. So I have a poll just to see how many people have tried it just cause I'm curious to whether it's something a lot of people have done, but to the people that did is it worth it or just a waste? Did you find it to be addicting or feel the need to keep doing more after it wore off?
Have you tried Ketamine?
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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23368376 - 06/21/16 09:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It was cool, but it fucked my nose up really bad for like two months after.

Also I feel like my piss stream is weaker but who knows


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23368381 - 06/21/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

yes. i like it best as a low dose in combination with mdma. never really used it on any kind of regular basis though.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: theonlysun81]
    #23368386 - 06/21/16 09:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

i have heard it is quite fun

apparently it has detrimental effects on the blatter


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23368394 - 06/21/16 09:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

When my wife got her leg broke, they gave her a large dose of ketamine before drilling through her leg to put in the traction equipment. Pretty sure I remember her asking me if I could find more of it or something. She's not really a druggy so I guess that would count as "being worth it". I've always wanted to try it myself.

Based on her description of what happened, I'm pretty sure she k-holed.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: thelanzii]
    #23368401 - 06/21/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ketamine sucked when I did it, and I've tried to like it a couple times. :shrug:

I've never had more than 200mg at a time to mess with, but every time I started feeling the sensations of the drug begin, I would freak out and immediately start eating food to get the clammy, sedative low to go away as quickly as I could.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #23368403 - 06/21/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I only take it IM at doses which take me straight to the hole. Taken that way it's 'the most intense, bizarre, and enjoyable psychedelic I've tried'.

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That chapter was what first inspired me to go IM rather than insufflated. I'd never go back to insufflating now days; it's absolutely lacklustre by comparison to IM.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #23368406 - 06/21/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

mxe, & deschloro ketamine are better than vanilla K - but all of them are fucking amazing drugs :awesome:


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23368408 - 06/21/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Its one of my favorite drugs ever. Really quirky and weird, in a good way! Trippy too.

Ive only doen it once, and i wanna do it again and again.

But i cant find it anywhere. I just dont have the connections :nonono:

SirShrooms, u lucky dog!

Just dont get addicted, ive read its toxic on the liver.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23368414 - 06/21/16 09:27 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
Just dont get addicted, ive read its toxic on the liver.



It's the bladder that is affected by abuse - I know someone that had to have theirs removed after a daily habit that spanned about a decade.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23368441 - 06/21/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

removed?

whoa.

i guess its the bladder :shrug:


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23368457 - 06/21/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23368462 - 06/21/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

K is good shit, if you push up the limits it will fuck you up big time. 

Bottom line, it's a crazy drug.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: qman]
    #23368482 - 06/21/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.vice.com/read/ketamine-slowly-ruins-your-bladder-and-kills-you-863

this oddball spiraled out of control with ketamine

the one time i got offered ketamine they wanted 80 a g fuck that


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: thelanzii]
    #23368724 - 06/21/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ket is great. If I had a supply I could definitely indulge a few times.

80 a G sounds reasonable, you only need like 50 mg

Edit-50 mg IM. I think the only way to go with ket is IM, everything else seems like a waste


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: JvF]
    #23368732 - 06/21/16 11:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I disagree.

I snorted a tiny bump, barely anything, definitely high. like im in love with K high.

It very potent.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23368738 - 06/21/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

deschloro K and mxe are 2-3x as potent and last twice+ as long :laugh:


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: JvF]
    #23368741 - 06/21/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

50mg IM would be frustrating to me. When first experimenting I started at 75mg, but didn't hit the psychedelic breakthrough of the 'hole' until 125mg. These days I usually go 150-200mg.

50mg insufflated should produce a pleasant high however.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23368749 - 06/21/16 11:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I probably had about 50mg. It cost $5 for the bump at a rave. It was lovely and i danced on it, and got goofy lol


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: twighead]
    #23368752 - 06/21/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

its around here but i generally avoid snorting and needles, although getting another tattoo tomorrow. when it was trying to get me i was still fucked up from drinking and those who were using were too out of it for me to catch up.

maybe when i get more free time and money.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23368760 - 06/21/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Can u swallow K?


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23368766 - 06/21/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It is ALOT of fun. Kills thoughts as good as heroin and makes you just not give a flying fuck among many things. The high from pure ketamine is odd and hard to explain
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Can u swallow K?



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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23368775 - 06/21/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

seems best route is im, more common or at least socially acceptable would be snorting.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23368787 - 06/22/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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The high from pure ketamine is odd and hard to explain



Read this: Source

It's the best explanation of the high I have ever come across.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23368795 - 06/22/16 12:12 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ketamines cool, definitely worth trying. Just don't take it to seriously its basically like nitrous fun for a bit but can get addicting and scummy.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23368807 - 06/22/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, love the stuff, haven't done it in a very long time though.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Lucis]
    #23368877 - 06/22/16 01:44 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

LSD and Ketamine go together so so nicely.
I agree that intramuscular injection is a way better ROA than snorting it, but if I'm tripping or rolling and want to do K setting up a rig for IM is impossible so snorting it is.  I rarely mess with K if I'm not tripping or rolling.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23368889 - 06/22/16 01:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
It is ALOT of fun. Kills thoughts as good as heroin and makes you just not give a flying fuck among many things. The high from pure ketamine is odd and hard to explain
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LogicaL Chaos said:
Can u swallow K?



Better question is why would you




cause i sneeze easily, idk :shrug:

so yes u can or wut?


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23368904 - 06/22/16 02:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yes. And Yes.
Imho the best combination is with lsd.
They dont call it psychedelic heroin for nothing....be aware of addiction potential of this substance.
And tolerance builds up really fast....I was at point years ago that i could rail a gram with my partner on hour while having sex.

Try high dose of lucy and start with little lines and work it up
This combination is not for people who dont feel comfortable outside their bodies.

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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23368923 - 06/22/16 02:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

LogicaL Chaos said:
Quote:

Seriously_trippin said:
It is ALOT of fun. Kills thoughts as good as heroin and makes you just not give a flying fuck among many things. The high from pure ketamine is odd and hard to explain
Quote:

LogicaL Chaos said:
Can u swallow K?



Better question is why would you




cause i sneeze easily, idk :shrug:

so yes u can or wut?




Dude, type oral bioavailability of ketamine into google and voila


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23368924 - 06/22/16 02:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You can take it orally. The effects differ in the same way as one would expect comparing RoA for IM/Insufflating/Oral dosing - i.e. comes on slower, lasts longer.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23368927 - 06/22/16 02:33 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

what is experienced in this so called khole

i had a 2 day long psychedelic experience a few months back where it pretty much felt like i was dying and in another realm.  i lost all concept of time and was pretty much tunneling through experiences inside my own mind for a bit over 2 days.  is kholing anything like this?


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: thelanzii]
    #23368929 - 06/22/16 02:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Nemmies said:
what is experienced in this so called khole



I've linked twice to description but no one seems to have taken any notice, so I'll put it here for all to see:

THE HIGH: 
    Ketamine is the most intense, bizarre, and enjoyable psychedelic I've tried, and this perception is common among the people I know who've used it. The Ketamine high comes on about two minutes after injecting. One should be lying down or reclining at this time, because on a regular psychedelic dose they will be unconscious of their body shortly after this. 

    Ketamine can be taken in various dosages. A smaller dose will allow one to maintain some sense of identity, memory, and ability to perceive and interact with their physical surroundings. I find that a 10 to 20 mg. dose puts me in a non-psychedelic, disassociative altered state. 50 mg. does little for me psychedelically, putting me in some semi-conscious halfway zone. 75 to 125 mg. will produce the highly desirable Ketamine trip. For the effects of very large doses see the writings of John Lilly. I tend towards unconsciousness with too large a dose. The experience I will describe here is for the average psychedelic dose of approximately 100 mg. taken intramuscularly. I've heard reports of people who snort small amounts of Ketamine while at dance clubs. However, the experience produced by this is not even remotely similar to what I've described below. 

    As the high is coming on there is a break in the continuity of consciousness. Soon after this point I find myself in a swirling psychedelic universe. There is no concept that I am currently high on a drug that I'm going to come down from. Frequently there is no recollection of ever having been myself, been born, had a personality or body, or even known of planet earth. The experience is one of being in total orgasm with the universe. I feel like I'm in hyperspace, simultaneously connected to all things. Billions of images and perceptions are simultaneously flowing through my circuits. I am not bound into three dimensions. In the fourth dimension of time I am not locked into the current moment. I experience backwards and forwards in time as well, with the current moment being the center of intensity. On my first Ketamine experience there was a non-verbal feeling that my entire life up to that point had been preparation, particularly my other psychedelic experiences, and taking Ketamine was like pressing the GO button. It felt as though there had been a major and permanent shift in the "fabric of reality," or the mode in which I perceived the universe. It felt as though the states of mind I had broken through to in previous psychedelic peaks had become the base reality. And this new reality felt better than I'd ever anticipated it could be. My past psychedelic experiences taught me how to release and flow within this type of world. On a Ketamine experience I do not need to "do" anything. Once administered, the experience simply happens. Sometimes I feel like a single atom or point of consciousness adrift in a swirling vortex of energies, like a single cell within a being of galactic proportions. This feeling may shift and I then become the center point through which all these energies pass. The experience is of titanic proportions in the merging of energy, intent, and awareness, yet lucidly articulated to the minutes" spiraling details. All the while I feel very relaxed and at home in this universe. Even though any supports of reality, identity, or stability are being dissolved at the speed of light, I do not experience any fear, as if the one who would experience fear at losing these things is not a part of me. As the waves of experience pass through me I feel a bit like a kid on a rollercoaster. Although he's about to have an exhilarating experience while going over a hill, deeper in his mind he's confident that the rollercoaster will stay on its tracks. 

    Some 30 minutes to an hour into the experience I come to an apex. At this point I have felt that my will determines whether or not I exist, and whether or not the universe exists. And I could toggle between existence and non-existence many times within a second. I've even had the impression that I could cause the universe (which is quite fluid in the moment) to crystallize in whatever format I desired although I haven't had the impetus to actually try this. 

    After this comes the return to regular consciousness, which begins with one perception out of each million seeming like it's within my familiar perceptual structure. These "personal perceptions" increase in frequency, one every 100,000, one every 10,000. Soon I remember my previous identity. I've never felt this moment as disappointing, as I frequently feel when coming down from ecstasy. When I realize I'm coming back it feels more novel like "Wow, I'm coming back, I wonder what life is going to be like after this experience." Although there is a feeling that the ride's almost over this part of the experience is quite interesting, with part of my mind still running circles around the cosmos, and another part reintegrating with my identity. Often I experience the return portion of the Ketamine Journey as an alien rebirth experience. Upon returning to the body, visuals will continue for a while with eyes opened. These can be quite spectacular and hallucinatory, and bear more resemblance to DMT visuals than other psychedelic visuals. 

    45 minutes to an hour after injecting the Ketamine I'm back though there remain some strange bodily sensations. I tend to feel light (anti-gravity), slightly dizzy, have poor motor coordination, and a bit nauseous if I move around. For a couple of hours after the experience I find it best to just relax, lay in bed, listen to music, etc. until the recovery period has passed. 

    One problem I find with Ketamine is that the experience is difficult to bring back and reintegrate with routine reality. Memory of the experience is even difficult. Within hours after coming back, 99% of the experience is inaccessible to my current conscious mind. The Ketamme experience is so bizarre and otherworldly that a normal mind can't even conceive of experiencing in this manner. It feels as though some part of the mind protectively closes off access to the dimensions experienced on Ketamine. I've recently found a method that is proving effective at solving this problem. This is to take Ketamine while already high on 2C-B. This seems to provide a "bridge" between the ego or identity, and a state that is ego-less and without limitations. 

    I've observed a fairly mixed response in others I know who have tried Ketamine. It seems that people either love it, and think it's the greatest stuff in the universe, or feel uninspired by it. From speaking with numerous people who've tried it, it's clear that most have had experiences similar to what I've described, while others describe much less fascinating results. After taking Ketamine some 100 times I've noticed that it's fairly easy to miss the mark, and wind up with an experience that is nothing like what I've described above. 

    The main trick to hitting the mark with a Ketamine trip is taking the correct dose. Too small an amount will not obliterate one's self-awareness, and will fail to admit one into the realm of pure awareness. Too much will bring one towards unconsciousness, giving one the vaguest impressions of having traveled somewhere. Many have had successful journeys by starting with 75 mg., and increasing the dose by 15 mg. on each separate occasion until the desired experience is reached. If one takes Ketamine while already high on a psychedelic, such as 2C-B or LSD, the "dosage window" for achieving a spectacular Ketamine journey is significantly wider. 

    Another important factor in the quality of the Ketamine experience is one's "set" or personality. Dr. Igor Kungurtsev, a Russian psychiatrist, was involved in administering an experiment treating alcoholics with Ketamine. An article on his work was published in the Fall 1991 issue of The Albert Hofmann Foundation Bulletin. One of his findings was "the correlation between the type of personality and the type of experience under the influence of Ketamine. People who are very controlled and have difficulties letting go, or who have problems with relationships, often have negative experiences with Ketamine. For them the dissolving of the individual self is horrible. For other patients who are more relaxed and able to surrender, who have a deep capacity to love, the experience is usually blissful, even ecstatic." 

    Kungurtsev also found that Ketamine produced spiritual experiences, as well as long term changes in the spiritual outlook, of most of those who tried it. "It is interesting that many people who never thought about spirituality or the meaning of life reported having experiences that one might read about only in spiritual texts or Eastern teachings... For many patients it is a profound insight that they can exist without their bodies as pure consciousness or pure spirit. Many of them said that as a result of their experience, they understood the Christian notion of the separation of the soul and the body, and that they now believe some part of them will continue to exist after death. There were several cases where people reported contact with God, but this is usually not an anthropomorphic figure. They describe an ocean of brilliant white light, which is filled with love, bliss, and energy."
 
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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23368938 - 06/22/16 02:43 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

sounds fun.  i have heard people compare ketamine and mxe


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: thelanzii]
    #23368939 - 06/22/16 02:44 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

They're very similar, most actually prefer MXE. Can't really get hold of MXE for love nor money these days though.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23368956 - 06/22/16 03:09 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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You can take it orally. The effects differ in the same way as one would expect comparing RoA for IM/Insufflating/Oral dosing - i.e. comes on slower, lasts longer.



Yeah I mean I just would have and never have done it. If ketamine were cheap i might experiment with it but idk if it's good or bad it's just ,snorting,plugging and injection the only roa I have ever seen for it. Never seen like ketamine caps or anything of that nature. Oh and that erowid entry is pretty close I guess. Psychedelic heroin is a pretty good name for it. But I find small doses of ketamine closer to high doses of ambien or something then any psychedelic. Dissascosoatissasociatives are just weird ,fun but weird AF.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23368964 - 06/22/16 03:16 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Dissascosoatissasociatives are just weird ,fun but weird spiritual AF.



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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23369037 - 06/22/16 04:42 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ketamine is the bee's knees, definitely one of my personal favorite drugs

In my experience its most practical use is at low doses in conjunction with other, more potent drugs such as LSD, mushrooms or MDMA, although it does have some pretty fascinating effects on its own in high doses, but tolerance builds very quickly which is why I only like to do it a couple times a year at the most

I've also only ever insufflated it, I hear IM is by far the best way to do K but I don't play with needles myself so I wouldn't do it like that unless I had someone I really trust to do it for me.. Plus snorting drugs is really fun when you're tripping face


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23369039 - 06/22/16 04:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Also not many people know this but low doses of K are a very effective treatment for a MDMA/meth hangover, though obviously if you have a tolerance this effect will be diminished


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23369059 - 06/22/16 05:09 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

A manageable dose of ketamine and a bowl of DMT is one of my favorite combos.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23369230 - 06/22/16 07:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Also not many people know this but low doses of K are a very effective treatment for a MDMA/meth hangover, though obviously if you have a tolerance this effect will be diminished





Wot?? You dont say

I happened to acquire a gram of K a few weeks back. Haven't taken any yet, because I like to get it tested first

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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #23369332 - 06/22/16 08:32 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ive barely done much K but I can already tell it's a great drug. I'd love to try higher doses or IM sometime, especially after reading that write up JSB posted. Didn't the dude who wrote that drown while Kholing in a bathtub?


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: hex_enduction]
    #23369354 - 06/22/16 08:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ketamine is really fun, but for K there's a time and a place. It's one of the only drugs I refuse to drive on, for good reason

If you do too much and you're not on a couch, idk, it kinda sucks lol. I see people hole at festivals and I just don't really get that. It's a fun drug but there's a fine line, less is more

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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: twighead] * 1
    #23369373 - 06/22/16 08:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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mxe, & deschloro ketamine are better than vanilla K



deschloro=R Isomer?
Because I much MUCH prefer S isomer.

Ketamine is the shit.
One of my favorite recreational drugs.
Won't be doing any for the next couple of years, but I look forward to when I get my hands on some again.


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    #23369388 - 06/22/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

ketamine is dumb and shitty its only good as a cure for boredom & anybody who gets addicted to it must have a really weirdass personality to feel the need to do it with any sort of frequency


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Sheekle]
    #23369391 - 06/22/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Eh, ketamine is fucking beautiful imo


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23369410 - 06/22/16 09:16 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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twighead said:
mxe, & deschloro ketamine are better than vanilla K



deschloro=R Isomer?
Because I much MUCH prefer S isomer.

Ketamine is the shit.
One of my favorite recreational drugs.
Won't be doing any for the next couple of years, but I look forward to when I get my hands on some again.



No it's a completely different drug

https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Deschloroketamine

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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23369448 - 06/22/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yes


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: UncleCid]
    #23369460 - 06/22/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Im not a huge fan of it. Probably have done atleast a Q - 9 g's in my usage over the years.

I only really enjoyed it in small doses. K-holing was never my thing. I often would get bad nausea too after a few lines.

The experience that made me quit:

One night back when I was like 19 I hit my friend up to chill and he told me his parents had left for the weekend. His family was loaded and lived in a pretty sweet house so I was like fuck yeah let's smoke and get rocked.

I proceed to drive over there and find out two guys I knew (dealers of various festy dr00gs) were already over there. Wasn't a fan of these guys honestly, they were pretty scummy. Type of guys who knowingly sold bunk L and skimped on powder bags. This night though they had brought a 20lb nitrous tank. Which was cool other than the prices they wanted for ballon bundles. I was pushing trees at the time so I said fuck it and threw a $20 on it knowing I'd make the $$ back later. Anyways, everyone had their own K so that was nice I didn't have to bump everyone out. We all start cutting lines, throwing back gas, hitting the bong... Chilling. If you've ever been around a tank, you know how damn loud it is when filling balloons, so as one of guys is prepping balloons outta nowhere BAM the door to my friends room swings open. "WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN HERE? GET THE FUCK OUT BEFORE I KICK EACH ONE OF YA'LLS ASSES. TWO SECONDS AND IM CALLING THE COPS!" It was my friend's aunt and uncle standing in the doorway in disbelief.

My friend had always gotten in trouble throughout high school for drugs, but only with his parents (he was two years younger than me). His parents had decided to get his godparents to randomly check in on him while they were gone. I bet we were white as ghosts when that door swung open... Anyways, we were obviously all sorts of fucked up from the sesh we had going on. I remember everyone scrambling as fast as their k-rocked bodies could move, trying to grab their stuff in the process. I don't know how the other two guys made out, but I left like a Q of nug behind (got it back a day later). I was so rocked trying to back out of the driveway and make my escape. I nearly backed in a ditch alongside their driveway. I should not have been driving, but those godparents didn't give us the choice.

It was like 10 pm by this point, I pulled over in a close by neighborhood and proceeded to get sick on the side of the road still feeling the effects of a couple small lines of ket and several balloons. I remember holding my head sitting after getting sick and being so frustrated and confused because of the situation. It all happened so fast. I managed to get to another friends house and being pissed from the whole experience I gave the rest of my K out to him and and his friends (like a gram or so) swearing the drug off. I only did a few bumps of K after that experience and probably haven't touched it in like 2.5 years. Yeah, it's not the drug for me.

I had another super intense experience with being K holed at the peak of an L trip, but that's more of pleasant memory in hindsight. Scary as shit at the time though.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: DabsAndTabs]
    #23369469 - 06/22/16 09:44 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

K-Holing on LSD is one of my favorites :thumbup:


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    #23369471 - 06/22/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I think the main point is you shouldn't drive on K. Sounds like you had fun other than the part when you guys got caught

I can only imagine that scene. A bunch of kids spun on K and nitrous getting caught by parents. LOL


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: DabsAndTabs]
    #23369480 - 06/22/16 09:50 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah K and nitrous both make me nauseous if I do too much. I'd imagine if I ever K-holed I would just puke the whole time


I've only had like 5-10 cumulative minutes that i'd consider to be beautiful from all the times i've done K. To me it's just powdered alcohol with a psychotic twist, only the first few times of doing it did it feel vaguely psychedelic, and those moments of psychedelia were fleeting


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Sheekle]
    #23369489 - 06/22/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah K and nitrous both make me nauseous if I do too much. I'd imagine if I ever K-holed I would just puke the whole time


I've only had like 5-10 cumulative minutes that i'd consider to be beautiful from all the times i've done K. To me it's just powdered alcohol with a psychotic twist, only the first few times of doing it did it feel vaguely psychedelic, and those moments of psychedelia were fleeting





How many times have you done it? I know there's different isomers but idk too much about that but the different isomers definitely give off different effects

I've had K that kinda sucks and I've had insanely visual K that was incredibly gorgeous


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: UncleCid]
    #23369495 - 06/22/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah R is supposed to be more sedating, S more psychedelic, racematic means it's just a mixture of both.

I think the vast majority of K on the streets is racematic, some is S-isomer. Finding it in just the R-isomer form is pretty unheard of. I've prolly done K like 10-20 times the past couple years. Never had visuals from it before. It makes me so paranoid in just a couple bumps sometimes, if I ever got to the point where it was giving me visuals i'd prolly be flippin out or sumthin


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Sheekle]
    #23369506 - 06/22/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah R is supposed to be more sedating, S more psychedelic, racematic means it's just a mixture of both.

I think the vast majority of K on the streets is racematic, some is S-isomer. Finding it in just the R-isomer form is pretty unheard of. I've prolly done K like 10-20 times the past couple years. Never had visuals from it before. It makes me so paranoid in just a couple bumps sometimes, if I ever got to the point where it was giving me visuals i'd prolly be flippin out or sumthin





Yeah see I did a bump this one time, not that big, and I was getting some insane visuals. This was like 4-5 years ago and it was insane. Since then I've only found K like that a few times. Seriously one bump should be noticably fucking you up, if it's not then it's garbage. I think there's just a shitload of really bad K out there


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: UncleCid]
    #23369524 - 06/22/16 10:13 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

one bump usually gets me nice & wonk'd out. never visuals tho


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Sheekle]
    #23369555 - 06/22/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah the last time I did really bomb K was last summer and I was definitely getting some great visuals, like from a small key bump too. Really surprised me

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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: UncleCid]
    #23369569 - 06/22/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

A bump of K on a solid dose is incredibly entrancing.
I usually get an evolving intricate pattern overlaid onto my field of vision.
The first time I did the two together I saw a bunch of tumbling and folding lines creating geometric shapes akin to 2D chemical molecules.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #23369580 - 06/22/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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A bump of K on a solid dose is incredibly entrancing.
I usually get an evolving intricate pattern overlaid onto my field of vision.
The first time I did the two together I saw a bunch of tumbling and folding lines creating geometric shapes akin to 2D chemical molecules.



That's siq. I've never done k, I've always wanted to try. It's always a great time mixing non overlapping drugs. A year ago I did dmt on top of mdma, totally different than doing dmt alone, I don't remember it very well though cause i was rolling really hard. :lol:


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    #23369605 - 06/22/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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A bump of K on a solid dose is incredibly entrancing.
I usually get an evolving intricate pattern overlaid onto my field of vision.
The first time I did the two together I saw a bunch of tumbling and folding lines creating geometric shapes akin to 2D chemical molecules.





Yeah I was peaking pretty hard on 300ug and did that bump and it's the only time I've done good K while tripping on L and those visuals were just like so crazy it was hard to process, plus it was latenight at a festival so it was pretty dark. But still it was like wooooooow. I don't even know how I would describe those visuals, it wouldn't do it justice

I need a good K hookup. It's hard for me to find seriously fire K, most of the stuff around me is garbage


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23369606 - 06/22/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

The only time I've had intense visuals from it were in combination with psychedelics. I've smoked DMT while on ketamine a few times and that's a whole 'nother world. Ketamine usually doesn't jive well with music for me, but the combination of it and DMT together made me hear certain things in a whole new light.

I recall being at a festival a few years ago. Shows were done for the day, we were sittin back at the camp site. Had been doing a lot of cocaine and ketamine that morning, also a great combination (not sure on the safety of this combination though, so do research before doing it yourself) - tripped in the afternoon on mushrooms, and were all pretty much sober back at the camp site. We did a bunch of ketamine, and then someone passed me a joint with a lot of DMT in it. Thought that was odd, first time smoking DMT from a joint, but someone in another camp was blasting some Drum and Bass music.

I hadn't thought much of Drum and Bass music before that moment. When the DMT started to take effect, the bass in the music became heavier, the drums more tribal sounding. Odd sensation. Before it sounded chaotic and messy to me, but after I came out of the trip it's as if Drum and Bass music kind of clicked for me. The bass sounded like heavy didgeridoo drones and stuff. Cool experience.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23369641 - 06/22/16 11:01 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Hell yes. One if my favorite things about drugs is how music can completely morph into something else and come alive. :thumbup:


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23369664 - 06/22/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ketamine is definitely worthwhile. Try MXE if you get a chance too. Dissociatives in general are fucking great. I haven't tried PCP so I cant speak for it, but out of the few Ive tried (Ketamine,MXE,DXM,NO2) they are all great


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #23369673 - 06/22/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Hell yes. One if my favorite things about drugs is how music can completely morph into something else and come alive. :thumbup:





Seriously. Like tripping at a show and you hear all these crazy noises then when you listen to the recording of that show, it sounds so different lol. It's like yeah it sounded a lot different when I was trippin. I like that though


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: UncleCid]
    #23369761 - 06/22/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

ketamine is awesome.

dissociatives i've had experience with are best with other entactogens/psychedelics. snorted ketamine is no exception due to it being on the light end of the spectrum. when you snort ketamine, you're going to want to keep it in your sinuses rather than let it drain to your stomach because it's not orally active (and can make you sick if you do too much). for me, snorted ketamine is best with key bumps instead of lines.

im ketamine is a different story. i can't recall if i've done it with other psychedelics, but it's pure holing. that said, i think other dissociatives are better for holing (mxe, 3-meo-pcp - but again, these go best with entactogens/psychedelics ime). i'd never turn down an opportunity to im ketamine again though.

it's also important to note that ketamine will show up on ua's as pcp (from my understanding). so if drug tests are a worry for you, you may want to further research how long ketamine stays in your system so your usage doesn't interfere with the rest of your life.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: millzy]
    #23369806 - 06/22/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It seems based on a compilation of the responses here that K appears to be a love-it-or-hate-it kind of drug

I like it myself but not really so much in high doses.. I like to think of it as sort of a seasoning for other drugs, but not a main course in itself unless you really love it that much but the K-hole is an immensely weird headspace, it would take a certain kind of person to be able to enjoy that sort of experience IMO


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23369862 - 06/22/16 12:35 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I think I'm gonna give it a try but I'm either going to keep it spaced out by months like I do psychedelics or just try it once (meaning until the amount we have is gone anyway unless I hate it instantly lol) and not touch it again like I did with coke depending on what it's like. Definitely just gonna snort it though, never really fucked with needles and the thought of injecting myself with something creeps me out anyway :lol:


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23369887 - 06/22/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

People who shoot K are probably addicted to it, snorting it is fine and will rock you too


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: UncleCid]
    #23369891 - 06/22/16 12:49 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

i've im'ed k a handful of times. last time was like 2010, so i'm obviously a raging addict.

and i would not combine it with cocaine. such a gross combo ime.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: millzy]
    #23369896 - 06/22/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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i've im'ed k a handful of times. last time was like 2010, so i'm obviously a raging addict.

and i would not combine it with cocaine. such a gross combo ime.





Yeah it's just addictive behavior kind of. Sure not everyone who shoots K is addicted but I bet a decent amount are. I mean 100mgs snorted will hit you pretty hard. Is shooting is completely necessary? For addicts with tolerance, yeah, it's necessary


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: UncleCid]
    #23369903 - 06/22/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

all of the people i've seen get too wrapped up in it have been snorters. i don't really get the addiction though. i love ketamine, but i wouldn't want to be "i can't figure out my stereo" fucked up all day every day. it just seems so impractical. then again, all addictions are.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: millzy]
    #23369907 - 06/22/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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millzy said:
all of the people i've seen get too wrapped up in it have been snorters. i don't really get the addiction though. i love ketamine, but i wouldn't want to be "i can't figure out my stereo" fucked up all day every day. it just seems so impractical. then again, all addictions are.





Well Ketamine is supposed to be a wonder drug for depression and possibly ptsd. I can see how that would lead to addiction for some people

But I feel you, I'd never wanna do that much K anyways. Specially bc the kidney thing


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