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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #23368760 - 06/21/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Can u swallow K?


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23368766 - 06/21/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It is ALOT of fun. Kills thoughts as good as heroin and makes you just not give a flying fuck among many things. The high from pure ketamine is odd and hard to explain
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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23368775 - 06/21/16 11:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

seems best route is im, more common or at least socially acceptable would be snorting.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23368787 - 06/22/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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The high from pure ketamine is odd and hard to explain



Read this: Source

It's the best explanation of the high I have ever come across.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23368795 - 06/22/16 12:12 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ketamines cool, definitely worth trying. Just don't take it to seriously its basically like nitrous fun for a bit but can get addicting and scummy.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #23368807 - 06/22/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, love the stuff, haven't done it in a very long time though.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Lucis]
    #23368877 - 06/22/16 01:44 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

LSD and Ketamine go together so so nicely.
I agree that intramuscular injection is a way better ROA than snorting it, but if I'm tripping or rolling and want to do K setting up a rig for IM is impossible so snorting it is.  I rarely mess with K if I'm not tripping or rolling.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23368889 - 06/22/16 01:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
It is ALOT of fun. Kills thoughts as good as heroin and makes you just not give a flying fuck among many things. The high from pure ketamine is odd and hard to explain
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LogicaL Chaos said:
Can u swallow K?



Better question is why would you




cause i sneeze easily, idk :shrug:

so yes u can or wut?


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23368904 - 06/22/16 02:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yes. And Yes.
Imho the best combination is with lsd.
They dont call it psychedelic heroin for nothing....be aware of addiction potential of this substance.
And tolerance builds up really fast....I was at point years ago that i could rail a gram with my partner on hour while having sex.

Try high dose of lucy and start with little lines and work it up
This combination is not for people who dont feel comfortable outside their bodies.

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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23368923 - 06/22/16 02:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
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Seriously_trippin said:
It is ALOT of fun. Kills thoughts as good as heroin and makes you just not give a flying fuck among many things. The high from pure ketamine is odd and hard to explain
Quote:

LogicaL Chaos said:
Can u swallow K?



Better question is why would you




cause i sneeze easily, idk :shrug:

so yes u can or wut?




Dude, type oral bioavailability of ketamine into google and voila


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23368924 - 06/22/16 02:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You can take it orally. The effects differ in the same way as one would expect comparing RoA for IM/Insufflating/Oral dosing - i.e. comes on slower, lasts longer.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23368927 - 06/22/16 02:33 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

what is experienced in this so called khole

i had a 2 day long psychedelic experience a few months back where it pretty much felt like i was dying and in another realm.  i lost all concept of time and was pretty much tunneling through experiences inside my own mind for a bit over 2 days.  is kholing anything like this?


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: thelanzii]
    #23368929 - 06/22/16 02:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Nemmies said:
what is experienced in this so called khole



I've linked twice to description but no one seems to have taken any notice, so I'll put it here for all to see:

THE HIGH: 
    Ketamine is the most intense, bizarre, and enjoyable psychedelic I've tried, and this perception is common among the people I know who've used it. The Ketamine high comes on about two minutes after injecting. One should be lying down or reclining at this time, because on a regular psychedelic dose they will be unconscious of their body shortly after this. 

    Ketamine can be taken in various dosages. A smaller dose will allow one to maintain some sense of identity, memory, and ability to perceive and interact with their physical surroundings. I find that a 10 to 20 mg. dose puts me in a non-psychedelic, disassociative altered state. 50 mg. does little for me psychedelically, putting me in some semi-conscious halfway zone. 75 to 125 mg. will produce the highly desirable Ketamine trip. For the effects of very large doses see the writings of John Lilly. I tend towards unconsciousness with too large a dose. The experience I will describe here is for the average psychedelic dose of approximately 100 mg. taken intramuscularly. I've heard reports of people who snort small amounts of Ketamine while at dance clubs. However, the experience produced by this is not even remotely similar to what I've described below. 

    As the high is coming on there is a break in the continuity of consciousness. Soon after this point I find myself in a swirling psychedelic universe. There is no concept that I am currently high on a drug that I'm going to come down from. Frequently there is no recollection of ever having been myself, been born, had a personality or body, or even known of planet earth. The experience is one of being in total orgasm with the universe. I feel like I'm in hyperspace, simultaneously connected to all things. Billions of images and perceptions are simultaneously flowing through my circuits. I am not bound into three dimensions. In the fourth dimension of time I am not locked into the current moment. I experience backwards and forwards in time as well, with the current moment being the center of intensity. On my first Ketamine experience there was a non-verbal feeling that my entire life up to that point had been preparation, particularly my other psychedelic experiences, and taking Ketamine was like pressing the GO button. It felt as though there had been a major and permanent shift in the "fabric of reality," or the mode in which I perceived the universe. It felt as though the states of mind I had broken through to in previous psychedelic peaks had become the base reality. And this new reality felt better than I'd ever anticipated it could be. My past psychedelic experiences taught me how to release and flow within this type of world. On a Ketamine experience I do not need to "do" anything. Once administered, the experience simply happens. Sometimes I feel like a single atom or point of consciousness adrift in a swirling vortex of energies, like a single cell within a being of galactic proportions. This feeling may shift and I then become the center point through which all these energies pass. The experience is of titanic proportions in the merging of energy, intent, and awareness, yet lucidly articulated to the minutes" spiraling details. All the while I feel very relaxed and at home in this universe. Even though any supports of reality, identity, or stability are being dissolved at the speed of light, I do not experience any fear, as if the one who would experience fear at losing these things is not a part of me. As the waves of experience pass through me I feel a bit like a kid on a rollercoaster. Although he's about to have an exhilarating experience while going over a hill, deeper in his mind he's confident that the rollercoaster will stay on its tracks. 

    Some 30 minutes to an hour into the experience I come to an apex. At this point I have felt that my will determines whether or not I exist, and whether or not the universe exists. And I could toggle between existence and non-existence many times within a second. I've even had the impression that I could cause the universe (which is quite fluid in the moment) to crystallize in whatever format I desired although I haven't had the impetus to actually try this. 

    After this comes the return to regular consciousness, which begins with one perception out of each million seeming like it's within my familiar perceptual structure. These "personal perceptions" increase in frequency, one every 100,000, one every 10,000. Soon I remember my previous identity. I've never felt this moment as disappointing, as I frequently feel when coming down from ecstasy. When I realize I'm coming back it feels more novel like "Wow, I'm coming back, I wonder what life is going to be like after this experience." Although there is a feeling that the ride's almost over this part of the experience is quite interesting, with part of my mind still running circles around the cosmos, and another part reintegrating with my identity. Often I experience the return portion of the Ketamine Journey as an alien rebirth experience. Upon returning to the body, visuals will continue for a while with eyes opened. These can be quite spectacular and hallucinatory, and bear more resemblance to DMT visuals than other psychedelic visuals. 

    45 minutes to an hour after injecting the Ketamine I'm back though there remain some strange bodily sensations. I tend to feel light (anti-gravity), slightly dizzy, have poor motor coordination, and a bit nauseous if I move around. For a couple of hours after the experience I find it best to just relax, lay in bed, listen to music, etc. until the recovery period has passed. 

    One problem I find with Ketamine is that the experience is difficult to bring back and reintegrate with routine reality. Memory of the experience is even difficult. Within hours after coming back, 99% of the experience is inaccessible to my current conscious mind. The Ketamme experience is so bizarre and otherworldly that a normal mind can't even conceive of experiencing in this manner. It feels as though some part of the mind protectively closes off access to the dimensions experienced on Ketamine. I've recently found a method that is proving effective at solving this problem. This is to take Ketamine while already high on 2C-B. This seems to provide a "bridge" between the ego or identity, and a state that is ego-less and without limitations. 

    I've observed a fairly mixed response in others I know who have tried Ketamine. It seems that people either love it, and think it's the greatest stuff in the universe, or feel uninspired by it. From speaking with numerous people who've tried it, it's clear that most have had experiences similar to what I've described, while others describe much less fascinating results. After taking Ketamine some 100 times I've noticed that it's fairly easy to miss the mark, and wind up with an experience that is nothing like what I've described above. 

    The main trick to hitting the mark with a Ketamine trip is taking the correct dose. Too small an amount will not obliterate one's self-awareness, and will fail to admit one into the realm of pure awareness. Too much will bring one towards unconsciousness, giving one the vaguest impressions of having traveled somewhere. Many have had successful journeys by starting with 75 mg., and increasing the dose by 15 mg. on each separate occasion until the desired experience is reached. If one takes Ketamine while already high on a psychedelic, such as 2C-B or LSD, the "dosage window" for achieving a spectacular Ketamine journey is significantly wider. 

    Another important factor in the quality of the Ketamine experience is one's "set" or personality. Dr. Igor Kungurtsev, a Russian psychiatrist, was involved in administering an experiment treating alcoholics with Ketamine. An article on his work was published in the Fall 1991 issue of The Albert Hofmann Foundation Bulletin. One of his findings was "the correlation between the type of personality and the type of experience under the influence of Ketamine. People who are very controlled and have difficulties letting go, or who have problems with relationships, often have negative experiences with Ketamine. For them the dissolving of the individual self is horrible. For other patients who are more relaxed and able to surrender, who have a deep capacity to love, the experience is usually blissful, even ecstatic." 

    Kungurtsev also found that Ketamine produced spiritual experiences, as well as long term changes in the spiritual outlook, of most of those who tried it. "It is interesting that many people who never thought about spirituality or the meaning of life reported having experiences that one might read about only in spiritual texts or Eastern teachings... For many patients it is a profound insight that they can exist without their bodies as pure consciousness or pure spirit. Many of them said that as a result of their experience, they understood the Christian notion of the separation of the soul and the body, and that they now believe some part of them will continue to exist after death. There were several cases where people reported contact with God, but this is usually not an anthropomorphic figure. They describe an ocean of brilliant white light, which is filled with love, bliss, and energy."
 
--D. M. Turner

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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23368938 - 06/22/16 02:43 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

sounds fun.  i have heard people compare ketamine and mxe


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: thelanzii]
    #23368939 - 06/22/16 02:44 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

They're very similar, most actually prefer MXE. Can't really get hold of MXE for love nor money these days though.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23368956 - 06/22/16 03:09 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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You can take it orally. The effects differ in the same way as one would expect comparing RoA for IM/Insufflating/Oral dosing - i.e. comes on slower, lasts longer.



Yeah I mean I just would have and never have done it. If ketamine were cheap i might experiment with it but idk if it's good or bad it's just ,snorting,plugging and injection the only roa I have ever seen for it. Never seen like ketamine caps or anything of that nature. Oh and that erowid entry is pretty close I guess. Psychedelic heroin is a pretty good name for it. But I find small doses of ketamine closer to high doses of ambien or something then any psychedelic. Dissascosoatissasociatives are just weird ,fun but weird AF.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #23368964 - 06/22/16 03:16 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Seriously_trippin said:
Dissascosoatissasociatives are just weird ,fun but weird spiritual AF.



Fixed.


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23369037 - 06/22/16 04:42 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ketamine is the bee's knees, definitely one of my personal favorite drugs

In my experience its most practical use is at low doses in conjunction with other, more potent drugs such as LSD, mushrooms or MDMA, although it does have some pretty fascinating effects on its own in high doses, but tolerance builds very quickly which is why I only like to do it a couple times a year at the most

I've also only ever insufflated it, I hear IM is by far the best way to do K but I don't play with needles myself so I wouldn't do it like that unless I had someone I really trust to do it for me.. Plus snorting drugs is really fun when you're tripping face


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23369039 - 06/22/16 04:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Also not many people know this but low doses of K are a very effective treatment for a MDMA/meth hangover, though obviously if you have a tolerance this effect will be diminished


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Re: How many of you have tried Ketamine, is it worth it? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #23369059 - 06/22/16 05:09 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

A manageable dose of ketamine and a bowl of DMT is one of my favorite combos.


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