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OfflineTioWWW999
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Re: Trump or Hillary? [Re: Sticky Green]
    #23367349 - 06/21/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Sticky Green said:
I want to hear what all you confused people that claim to hate the oppressive system of lying, corrupt establishment politicians. But choose to vote for one of the worst ever in hillary clinton. have to say on this matter.

I'd like to know, what is the worst, most apparent example of Donald Trumps "racism? Don't avoid the question or change the subject. I really need to know what you all are referring to when you say he's a racist bigot.



No one is attempting to defend her despite me sharing 3 random vids of her being a liar and also are they too stupid to remember the emails? Let's dont forget Benghazi either

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Re: Trump or Hillary? [Re: TioWWW999]
    #23367361 - 06/21/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I just want an honest answer to my question. I keep hearing how racist he is but i'm confused because I have yet to hear anything racist from him.

I'm a trump supporter, so obviously I just need an enlightened liberal to show me the light.

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Re: Trump or Hillary? [Re: Sticky Green]
    #23367374 - 06/21/16 04:30 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Sticky Green said:
I just want an honest answer to my question. I keep hearing how racist he is but i'm confused because I have yet to hear anything racist from him.

I'm a trump supporter, so obviously I just need an enlightened liberal to show me the light.



He only said that we should deport illegal immigrants. What's wrong with that? I don't see him mentioning a race and hating on it? I hope they know anyone can be a immigrant it's not like 11 specific race white,black,asian,indian,me,you,members of shroomery etc

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Re: Trump or Hillary? [Re: goop]
    #23367416 - 06/21/16 04:42 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Neither.
Hillary will win, and I suspect Trump would be somewhat worse. Hillary will be like more of the same old shit. Bad, depressing and corrupt, but not catastrophic. Were I american I wouldn't give either my vote.

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Re: Trump or Hillary? [Re: TioWWW999]
    #23367418 - 06/21/16 04:43 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

That's exactly the way I see it.

So will someone answer my god damn question?

This is what I run into when I ask for specifics, liberal minded people disappear. Do yall Know something I don't? I just need an example.

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Re: LOL [Re: twighead] * 1
    #23367501 - 06/21/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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twighead said:
Or don't pick evil at all :rolleyes:

American's seem programmed to think that they only have 2 choices and are so infused with media induced apathy that they think taking matters into their own hands and voting as they please is some sort of impossibility.




The vast majority of our legislature is one of two parties. We are so entrenched in this bipartisan system that any vote for another party - especially for the presidential ballot - is a vote that carries no weight except for the sole purpose of showing support for said 3rd party. In swing states your vote holds much more value and to vote for a 3rd party in one of these states effectively disenfranchises yourself. This is the true show of apathy because that effort is so minuscule and inconsequential as the 3rd parties have so little traction. This is why Sanders was on the Democrat ticket, because he recognized that 3rd parties have no power in the presidential race. Go again and try and shout over a hurricane.

It will take a massive movement to get a 3rd party in the running and until then the vote is moot. Most of us are realistic enough to recognize this and that is why we vote either Republican or Democrat, not because we are tunnel-visioned and dissociated from the possibilities.

You can't fight a system like this head and expect much of an outcome. The political machine is overwhelmingly powerful and for most of us our true power comes from the actions we take to improve our lives and the lives of those around us. I live in California and I am a Democrat, and I would rather have Clinton than Trump. My state is always Democrat, so I can rest assured knowing for certain it will go that way. This is why I will probably vote for a Stein come November so I can help her party gain attention in the hopes that it aids in their traction come future elections.

In the end it's not a democracy, and our vote for representation always comes with flaws to our moral and political alignment ideals.


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Re: LOL [Re: Black_Sunset] * 1
    #23367521 - 06/21/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Black_Sunset said:
Republicans de-fund education, national park services, human health services like planned parenthood, and other public projects crucial to the health of the population. They want to keep you stupid and happy, sucking down their bigotry and religion while they give more tax breaks to the wealthy and corporations. They claim the tenants of independence and self-sufficiency yet strive to take away your rights to life and liberty with every breath. The very participation on this forum creates contradiction to their goals. Trump is just another hate-breeding narcissist who will be puppet-ed to lift these agendas. He will elect another right-wing zealot to fill the Supreme Court, and when your friends and family suffer from that candidate's delusional interpretations of the law you will hopefully by then have the grasp on reality to feel a deep regret for your stupidity.

Pick the lesser of two evils.






My feelings exactly! Well put, good sir. :raisemyglass:

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Re: LOL [Re: Black_Sunset] * 1
    #23367636 - 06/21/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Black_Sunset said:
Quote:

twighead said:
Or don't pick evil at all :rolleyes:

American's seem programmed to think that they only have 2 choices and are so infused with media induced apathy that they think taking matters into their own hands and voting as they please is some sort of impossibility.




The vast majority of our legislature is one of two parties. We are so entrenched in this bipartisan system that any vote for another party - especially for the presidential ballot - is a vote that carries no weight except for the sole purpose of showing support for said 3rd party. In swing states your vote holds much more value and to vote for a 3rd party in one of these states effectively disenfranchises yourself. This is the true show of apathy because that effort is so minuscule and inconsequential as the 3rd parties have so little traction. This is why Sanders was on the Democrat ticket, because he recognized that 3rd parties have no power in the presidential race. Go again and try and shout over a hurricane.

It will take a massive movement to get a 3rd party in the running and until then the vote is moot. Most of us are realistic enough to recognize this and that is why we vote either Republican or Democrat, not because we are tunnel-visioned and dissociated from the possibilities.

You can't fight a system like this head and expect much of an outcome. The political machine is overwhelmingly powerful and for most of us our true power comes from the actions we take to improve our lives and the lives of those around us. I live in California and I am a Democrat, and I would rather have Clinton than Trump. My state is always Democrat, so I can rest assured knowing for certain it will go that way. This is why I will probably vote for a Stein come November so I can help her party gain attention in the hopes that it aids in their traction come future elections.

In the end it's not a democracy, and our vote for representation always comes with flaws to our moral and political alignment ideals.



That massive movement is working its way in at the moment. We only need to vote and their entire grasp is ruptured. What do you think happened with Trump, do you think the republicans wanted him to win? There are hundreds of independents lined up to run this November. It's as simple as voting them in. And you may say that there are too many dem/repubs to overcome - but the actual truth is, if there isn't a majority of dems or repubs and there are only like 20~ independents - that alone is enough to hold massive sway, since either party would need to woo and cater to them to gain a majority in any vote.


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