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The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips
#23367149 - 06/21/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just have to post this, if no other reason than to get some feedback on whether or not I'm insane.
When I take high dose mushroom trips, weird shit always happens. This is a phenomenon that I've been observing for several years.
I always, even in the middle of a STRONG trip, ask myself - ok, is this really weird or am I just high? I know mushrooms affect our perceptions. But I also know when something is fucking weird or out of place or not, even while tripping...because I can recall and think in a sober thought sequence.
Example: today, I'm on a 4.5g trip. Dosed up early this morning and I've since peaked. I live on a very remote road out in the middle of nowhere. Since i dosed, I've been out on our front porch just enjoying nature and tripping. Cops have driven by 6 times in the past hour, and an unmarked truck has driven by 3 times.
I'm not surprised by this. Ive noticed it before. I literally tell my friends, watch, I'm gonna eat these shrooms and abnormal shit is gonna go down. It happens.
Ive resolved so much with mushrooms but this still defies my sober logic.
What the fuck? And it's not just cops. I go out into society with the fungus colonizing my brain, and see this weird kinda behavior all the time.
Im a skeptic by nature. One of the main reasons I'm still exploring mushrooms is because I'm authentically trying to figure out what the fuck they exactly do in reality, and what's coincidental.
I believe in auras. My animals have them, my friends and family, other people. One theory I have is that we as conscious beings emit and detect these auras, even if there isnt a science behind it. Is it possible we as conscious beings are on some level transceiving extrasensory information?
Have any of you experienced weird or unexplained circumstances and behavior on high trips?
Is there some merit to it, or is it just all coincidence, made meaningful and mysterious by altered brain chemistry?
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
#23367354 - 06/21/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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IveBeenRecycled said: When I take high dose mushroom trips, weird shit always happens.
Ha! Isn't that kinda the point of tripping?
Besides lots of cops driving by, what are some other examples of what you're talking about?
IME, everything gets a deep, profound meaning to it on shrooms. I become aware of the history/karma of everything that surrounds me, and my connectedness to it. For instance, I think about how the wood of a table started as a tree somewhere, and someone cut it down, processed it, trucked it across the country, etc. By my buying the table, I have become part of the karmic consequences (i.e. enabling the lumber industry, the trucks that drive the lumber, furniture stores, pollution, etc.). Everything is connected.
That said, sometimes the "everything is connected" feeling can make you feel like there's meaning to something, when in reality, there might not be.
For instance, I once had the notion that "all clichés are true". And I began to see that in so many different ways. I still believe that to be the case, but when I was tripping, I somehow became convinced that if you explored that notion far enough and used it for nefarious purposes, you could have the power to destroy the world at will. How? Who the fuck knows, I was tripping balls.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
#23367448 - 06/21/16 04:51 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Me and my friends have talked about this as well, weird things always happen when shrooms are involved. For example: I was on the comedown of a shroom trip just the other night at Ihop, I started drinking and smoking on the comedown and got kinda hungry. Our waitress was on some sort of hard drug as well. I was nice and composed but it was mindfucking me how fast she was talking and how animated she was. Flailing her limbs all over the place while she was taking our order. Saying some awesome quotes like "Oh sorry my mind-brain thing gets confused sometimes when I talk". Then when we went to pay at the register she looks up at us startled going "OMG yall are still here, they told me you left!". (she was just talking to us 2 minutes prior and didn't talk to anyone else between then and us going up to the register).
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
#23367601 - 06/21/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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IveBeenRecycled said: I literally tell my friends, watch, I'm gonna eat these shrooms and abnormal shit is gonna go down. It happens.
What the fuck? And it's not just cops. I go out into society with the fungus colonizing my brain, and see this weird kinda behavior all the time.
It happens to me on acid too. Even if I just take a hit. Terence McKenna had a talk about this phenomenon but it got taken down off youtube and he even used LSD as an example as well so maybe this happens more on LSD but I've had it happen plenty of shrooms. On shrooms they seem to be more extreme situations though or interacting with other people on LSD though it can be the most little most random things like ducks following you or strange wonky scenarios.
As for seeing weird stuff on high doses of mushrooms: giant transforming machines, aliens, entities, highly polished alien technology, stars/nebulas, exotic locations, space habitats, machinescapes etc.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23367788 - 06/21/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think tripping hard makes you notice how weird things really are. That's the phenomenon explained that's the conclusion I reached. I used to experience very similar things
one thing is every time I trip I attract people , has happened on multiple trips .
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: Broly]
#23367939 - 06/21/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Broly said: I think tripping hard makes you notice how weird things really are. That's the phenomenon explained that's the conclusion I reached. I used to experience very similar things
Na because things that never happen to me happen when I'm on psychedelics. Just like random situations that would never play out if I wasn't tripping.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: agoraphone]
#23367999 - 06/21/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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agoraphone said:
That said, sometimes the "everything is connected" feeling can make you feel like there's meaning to something, when in reality, there might not be.
Something I like to think about. We're all connected through the air we breath. Things may not be physically touching, but through the connections of atoms in the air, all the different gasses that make up the stuff we breath every day, is the very thing that connects us.
Another one is this. We're using the same water that's been on the planet for who knows how long, the same water our ancestors used.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23368171 - 06/21/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know exactly what you're talking about but I partial this kind it's because you're tripping balls. It's called a TRIP for a reason , unpredictable shit is most likely going to happen , and a lot of shrooms can make anything trippy. I remember my bad shrooms trip when my printer and room became evil like it was fucking weird af but it fucking make me freak and shongle made it more intense. The printer looked like an evil face made of all its parts.
here's another instance I go to the most secluded part of a park I'm tripping on mush , and all of a sudden one person then another then another show up , before I know it there's 15-18 people in this butterfly garden , it's like the vibes of shrooms and weed attracted them.
Be very specific on your events because thibk of this , if you were in those situations sober you would perceive it differently , i think it really boils down to perception and altered states of consiouscnes.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: Broly]
#23368318 - 06/21/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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People like to think that psychedelics are more than just drugs, like they have some kind of magical properties.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: healing]
#23368337 - 06/21/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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This definitely happens to me on LSD especially. I like to think of it as the web of coincidence that governs the universe. Psychedelics pull this web of coincidence to and fro when you take them, and the more psychedelics you take, the stranger things will get until you inevitably see something so strange it breaks your head and you end up in the psych unit.
At least, that's how it worked for me.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: WeAreMushroom]
#23368347 - 06/21/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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WeAreMushroom said: This definitely happens to me on LSD especially. I like to think of it as the web of coincidence that governs the universe. Psychedelics pull this web of coincidence to and fro when you take them, and the more psychedelics you take, the stranger things will get until you inevitably see something so strange it breaks your head and you end up in the psych unit.
At least, that's how it worked for me. 
Did you tell your theory to your therapist in the mental hospital?
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: healing] 1
#23368365 - 06/21/16 09:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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healing said:
Did you tell your theory to your therapist in the mental hospital?
Nope, was too busy screaming that I was the resurrection of God in human form and that I wasn't going to take those pills. Then six cops jumped on me and shot me with some sedatives. Now I'm all back to semi-normal.
Don't eat 2.6mg of LSD, it was too much IMO.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: Broly]
#23368370 - 06/21/16 09:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Broly said:
Be very specific on your events because thibk of this , if you were in those situations sober you would perceive it differently , i think it really boils down to perception and altered states of consiouscnes.
I really don't think so because my last LSD trip was in places I go to all the time and alarmingly different things happened (big things) and real things that never happened when I was sober.
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healing said People like to think that psychedelics are more than just drugs, like they have some kind of magical properties.
I don't really think it's that. If anything it's your mind that's magic but maybe there still is some supernatural qualities to these classic molecules or groups of molecules (Mushrooms, Ayahuasca, etc) but I think the random stuff happening to you has nothing to do with magic.
I think it has entirely to do with the sheer power of the human mind and how much our minds and thoughts actually really do influence the outside world even unconsciously when they expand so rapidly. If you look into physics far enough you'd see that our minds really do play a large part in how the outside world is created
Maybe when you take these certain chemicals your consciousness enters some kind of etheric embedded morphogenetic field; so when you take mushrooms or LSD...or Datura ...your consciousness enters the same place that everyone else who has ever taken that chemical has gone to. You all go to the same place and you each trip builds into the experience.
It was LSD that really prompted this idea for me like no other substance. That and the possible existence of the akashic records and the accessible universal awareness.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: Broly]
#23368377 - 06/21/16 09:17 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I recently was on come down on shrooms and while in total silence laying in bed and had one loud chime play from a wind up music box my wife inherited from her grandmother. I sleep next to this thing for over ten years. It never has made a sound. I didn't "hear" it I heard it. I have no doubt we are more in tune to receive these phenomenon experiences when we tweak our brains with mushrooms.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: Headrush]
#23368442 - 06/21/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, even smaller doses, that stuff always seems to happen. Tripping at a friends fairly remote house, this place being at the end of like a long narrow winding dirt driveway, about 600 feet of it, he never gets anyone dropping by, and then, for the first time in his 22 years in that house, Jehovas Witnesses fucking dropped by in the middle of our trip while we were lying in a meadow nearby... so we just watched from the bushes till they left lol
similarly inconvenient stuff seems to happen a lot
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: Ezuma]
#23368460 - 06/21/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: Yes, even smaller doses, that stuff always seems to happen. Tripping at a friends fairly remote house, this place being at the end of like a long narrow winding dirt driveway, about 600 feet of it, he never gets anyone dropping by, and then, for the first time in his 22 years in that house, Jehovas Witnesses fucking dropped by in the middle of our trip while we were lying in a meadow nearby... so we just watched from the bushes till they left lol
Exactly...I will trip in places that are always secluded without ever anyone around then suddenly people and unusual animals will start to bombard the area on the day I decide to trip there.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23368501 - 06/21/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I made a thread about this before, weird explainable stuff happens on psychedelics for sure
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19366801
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23368512 - 06/21/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Broly said:
Be very specific on your events because thibk of this , if you were in those situations sober you would perceive it differently , i think it really boils down to perception and altered states of consiouscnes.
I really don't think so because my last LSD trip was in places I go to all the time and alarmingly different things happened (big things) and real things that never happened when I was sober.
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healing said People like to think that psychedelics are more than just drugs, like they have some kind of magical properties.
I don't really think it's that. If anything it's your mind that's magic but maybe there still is some supernatural qualities to these classic molecules or groups of molecules (Mushrooms, Ayahuasca, etc) but I think the random stuff happening to you has nothing to do with magic.
I think it has entirely to do with the sheer power of the human mind and how much our minds and thoughts actually really do influence the outside world even unconsciously when they expand so rapidly. If you look into physics far enough you'd see that our minds really do play a large part in how the outside world is created
Maybe when you take these certain chemicals your consciousness enters some kind of etheric embedded morphogenetic field; so when you take mushrooms or LSD...or Datura ...your consciousness enters the same place that everyone else who has ever taken that chemical has gone to. You all go to the same place and you each trip builds into the experience.
It was LSD that really prompted this idea for me like no other substance. That and the possible existence of the akashic records and the accessible universal awareness.
And what if it's just coincidence and confirmation bias?
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
#23368656 - 06/21/16 11:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Every single time i've ever done shrooms even if it was a small amount I always come into contact with some sort of god or alien like presence and it always gets so overwhelming that I always end up thinking i'm going crazy or dying. I have flashbacks of previous lives, can see and feel the auras of every living creature around me, the aliens always speak to me through the people around me, and most of the time I always feel like theres something right behind me with its hands on my shoulders and it will sometimes enter my body and show me visions. Ever since my first shroom trip I can't smoke weed anymore either because itll make me trip and ill start having visions similar to the ones the entitys on shrooms give me. its really strange.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
#23369018 - 06/22/16 04:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've noticed highly coincidental things happening as well. People I havent seen in a long time show up, full moons or other crazy rare sky events, taking a walk and finding that a parade is taking place the block over...
Its likely that we apply more or different value to events, but its certainly hard to shake the idea that coincidences seem more frequent.
Check out this cool video about coincidence:
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23369081 - 06/22/16 05:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Exactly...I will trip in places that are always secluded without ever anyone around then suddenly people and unusual animals will start to bombard the area on the day I decide to trip there.
Back when I still had my vacation home in the Catskills I had a 6g trip briefly interrupted by a lady neighbor.
I was laid out naked in my back yard, on a blanket, on my back, completely lost in the sun beams and clouds filtering through this giant tree I was under. All kinds of critter chatter happening up in that tree. It was about Noon.
She suddenly appeared, on my property and asked if if was OK if she cut through. I was like "huh?... What?, sure, whatever." 
The only time she ever went in her own back yard was to walk her dog, which she did not have with her that day, and she has never been on my property before in the 3 to 4 years she lived there.
I mentioned this to the wife later and she said "Yea, well she probably just wants your dick." She was single, though I thought she had a girlfriend at the time.

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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: healing]
#23369584 - 06/22/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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healing said: And what if it's just coincidence and confirmation bias?
It's far too frequent, unexplainable, constant, humorous, novel in its action and commonly noticed among others. Some of these random events can be fairly profound and essentially make the trip.
My last LSD trip proved to me and my friend that it was not just in our heads. It wasn't just a few things that happened. Plus why does this seem to happen mostly on LSD? I think it's our minds and I don't think this is far fetched at all I think it's fairly normal when you actually finally understand how powerful the mind is.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23369599 - 06/22/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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my3rdeye said: I made a thread about this before, weird explainable stuff happens on psychedelics for sure
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19366801
Ha early 2014 that's around the time I was dropping acid regularly too. I really have noticed it happens
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Grand Old Fart said:Back when I still had my vacation home in the Catskills I had a 6g trip briefly interrupted by a lady neighbor.
I was laid out naked in my back yard, on a blanket, on my back, completely lost in the sun beams and clouds filtering through this giant tree I was under. All kinds of critter chatter happening up in that tree. It was about Noon.
She suddenly appeared, on my property and asked if if was OK if she cut through. I was like "huh?... What?, sure, whatever." 
The only time she ever went in her own back yard was to walk her dog, which she did not have with her that day, and she has never been on my property before in the 3 to 4 years she lived there.
I mentioned this to the wife later and she said "Yea, well she probably just wants your dick." She was single, though I thought she had a girlfriend at the time.

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Lol how did she react to you being naked? I've also noticed that if something randomly happens on a continuum like once every month or 2 then it will jus randomly decide to happen when I trip. Not just the same day but during the same hour.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23369920 - 06/22/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Could just be your own projections. Mushrooms making you believe things that aren't there.
At first I thought you meant the trip itself is weird, I was like "Yeahhhh isn't it greatttt?" 
Maybe not though. Have no idea man. Sometimes I've thought that tripping makes you into like a 'Novelty-Attractor' where novel/weird/interesting/eventful events are pulled to you whenever you trip. Or after you're tripping. I always thought that perception was an incorrect perception though. It seems more that the mushrooms make you into a Novelty-creator. Or 'seeker'. Where you feel more compelled to create your own novelty and eventful situations in your life and around you.
Of course that doesn't hold up to your situation of having things out of control that are weird happening to you.
Who knows man. Could be. Keep exploring friend.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
#23370139 - 06/22/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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IveBeenRecycled said: I just have to post this, if no other reason than to get some feedback on whether or not I'm insane.
When I take high dose mushroom trips, weird shit always happens. This is a phenomenon that I've been observing for several years.
I always, even in the middle of a STRONG trip, ask myself - ok, is this really weird or am I just high? I know mushrooms affect our perceptions. But I also know when something is fucking weird or out of place or not, even while tripping...because I can recall and think in a sober thought sequence.
Example: today, I'm on a 4.5g trip. Dosed up early this morning and I've since peaked. I live on a very remote road out in the middle of nowhere. Since i dosed, I've been out on our front porch just enjoying nature and tripping. Cops have driven by 6 times in the past hour, and an unmarked truck has driven by 3 times.
I'm not surprised by this. Ive noticed it before. I literally tell my friends, watch, I'm gonna eat these shrooms and abnormal shit is gonna go down. It happens.
Ive resolved so much with mushrooms but this still defies my sober logic.
What the fuck? And it's not just cops. I go out into society with the fungus colonizing my brain, and see this weird kinda behavior all the time.
Im a skeptic by nature. One of the main reasons I'm still exploring mushrooms is because I'm authentically trying to figure out what the fuck they exactly do in reality, and what's coincidental.
I believe in auras. My animals have them, my friends and family, other people. One theory I have is that we as conscious beings emit and detect these auras, even if there isnt a science behind it. Is it possible we as conscious beings are on some level transceiving extrasensory information?
Have any of you experienced weird or unexplained circumstances and behavior on high trips?
Is there some merit to it, or is it just all coincidence, made meaningful and mysterious by altered brain chemistry?
Totally, and going back literally decades. It's something I've been researching seriously for more than a few years now. I've seen and experienced weird shit many times. A lot of it is in my journals, as a trip report "Primal's Tripping Point" is where it all became real for me. Beyond synchronicity, well beyond. I have considerable theoretical models that address the apparent alteration of probabilities that often occurs. They're highly technical though.
My motivation is to be able to eventually instantiate these probability alterations in physical machines and control them, for computational purposes at least.
Uhm, "magic boxes" in simple terms. 
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23370152 - 06/22/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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IveBeenRecycled said: I just have to post this, if no other reason than to get some feedback on whether or not I'm insane.
When I take high dose mushroom trips, weird shit always happens. This is a phenomenon that I've been observing for several years.
I always, even in the middle of a STRONG trip, ask myself - ok, is this really weird or am I just high? I know mushrooms affect our perceptions. But I also know when something is fucking weird or out of place or not, even while tripping...because I can recall and think in a sober thought sequence.
Example: today, I'm on a 4.5g trip. Dosed up early this morning and I've since peaked. I live on a very remote road out in the middle of nowhere. Since i dosed, I've been out on our front porch just enjoying nature and tripping. Cops have driven by 6 times in the past hour, and an unmarked truck has driven by 3 times.
I'm not surprised by this. Ive noticed it before. I literally tell my friends, watch, I'm gonna eat these shrooms and abnormal shit is gonna go down. It happens.
Ive resolved so much with mushrooms but this still defies my sober logic.
What the fuck? And it's not just cops. I go out into society with the fungus colonizing my brain, and see this weird kinda behavior all the time.
Im a skeptic by nature. One of the main reasons I'm still exploring mushrooms is because I'm authentically trying to figure out what the fuck they exactly do in reality, and what's coincidental.
I believe in auras. My animals have them, my friends and family, other people. One theory I have is that we as conscious beings emit and detect these auras, even if there isnt a science behind it. Is it possible we as conscious beings are on some level transceiving extrasensory information?
Have any of you experienced weird or unexplained circumstances and behavior on high trips?
Is there some merit to it, or is it just all coincidence, made meaningful and mysterious by altered brain chemistry?
Totally, and going back literally decades. It's something I've been researching seriously for more than a few years now. I've seen and experienced weird shit many times. A lot of it is in my journals, as a trip report "Primal's Tripping Point" is where it all became real for me. Beyond synchronicity, well beyond. I have considerable theoretical models that address the apparent alteration of probabilities that often occurs. They're highly technical though.
My motivation is to be able to eventually instantiate these probability alterations in physical machines and control them, for computational purposes at least.
Uhm, "magic boxes" in simple terms.  
Okay okay, Terence...
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: PaulMaster]
#23370162 - 06/22/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: mctaveesh]
#23370226 - 06/22/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Which one's Terrence? 
Ah, let me prove it to you I think they're calling our names Maybe now you can't hear them, but you will if you just take hold of my hand
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23370242 - 06/22/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You. With your synchronicity computer wizard machines.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: mctaveesh]
#23370267 - 06/22/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I never paid much attention to McKenna, frankly. More on the John Lilly side of the reality fence. 
Quantum computation is the dream tech of the future. Observations of macro-scale quantum based world line alteration leads quite naturally to those sort of applications. You'd have to be a fool to ignore it when it presents itself and leaves an evidence trail behind, even if the brain evolved to ignore such effects.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23371362 - 06/22/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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IMo it's better to just stay completely away from all those sorts of philosophers, because you'll get stuck on the things they say and the experiences they've had. Inevitably you won't be able to have unique experiences of your own you'll just have modified versions of their experiences, because that's most likely what your mind will be on when you're going into a trip on something you read about them taking as well. Although I may be completely wrong, that's just what i've witnessed.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
#23371682 - 06/22/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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But it's all about perspective anyways 
Many people I know who trip even though at the core they may share a lot of beliefs as their favorite philosopher I've also seen many stark disagreements between the person and their favorite philosopher on subjects like psychedelics. I really don't think they have much influence on you as you might think.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
#23371688 - 06/22/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was seriously into mushrooms well before I ever encountered McKenna (that was in the old Magical Blend magazine I expect, or maybe High Times). He was just one of many people, none of whom I paid much attention to, though it was occasionally a good read...
I tend to agree that the expectations inform the experience, and my early trips really had no expectations whatsoever, possibly that's why they were so interesting. I came up with things to try based on the trips and then I would try them out the next time. I'm still not done with those things.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
#23372165 - 06/23/16 01:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why Quantum Computation specifically though? I haven't looked at Quantum computers that much to be honest even though I probably should. I remember hearing that they were not predicted to be all that useful for anything except for a few unusual uses that wouldn't be all that interesting.
I am interested in ways to keep computer power progressing through new ways of storing information though. Like molecular/DNA/Optical/3-dimensional
I should probably look more into the Quantum computation stuff though.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: mctaveesh]
#23372170 - 06/23/16 01:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was really into McKenna until I finally started to actually be able to trip regularly and figure things out for myself.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: mctaveesh]
#23372679 - 06/23/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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mctaveesh said: I was really into McKenna until I finally started to actually be able to trip regularly and figure things out for myself.
That's not why people listen to McKenna lmfao
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23372817 - 06/23/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's all about whoever or whatever gives you the guts, confidence and information to go where you have never been before with these things. McKenna wasn't the reason I got into psychedelics but I don't know if I would of ever had dared to eat 5+ grams of mush in a completely dark room if I hadn't taken an interest in his books then listened to a couple lectures. It was a positive life changing event. Never been happier. Super happy to be able to get more info here on shroomery and push forward on my journey. Just bought 4 Lilly books on a recommendation from a shroomerite on this thread. There are some smart mofos up in here. Learn a little from everyone is my goal.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: Starstepper]
#23372869 - 06/23/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Starstepper said: There are some smart mofos up in here. Learn a little from everyone is my goal.
Agreed, there are many posters here that are certifiably genius.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
#23374081 - 06/23/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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O, k kewl.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: mctaveesh]
#23374436 - 06/23/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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One time on around a quarter of cubes, I was laying on a couch, peaking, tears and snot and shit running down my face, and we had this cat that was new to the house at the time, didn't EVER come around me, and while I was peaking he sort of nuzzled up zext to me, obviously terrified at the situation, anyway at that time I came out of an obe to him doing that, and i just looked in the corner of the room and i swear there was another cat, more like a shadow of a cat, which was obviously malevolent, just a naassty black shadow cat, and i was completely incapacitated to the point where i couldnt stand, and i just had to realize that i couldnt change it, it was there, and the real cat would keep me safe. We have been cool ever since.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: FractalMind]
#23374597 - 06/23/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Protected by the pussy patrol dude. Nice!
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: FractalMind]
#23374598 - 06/23/16 05:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I swear I've seen my cats smile at me when I'm tripping.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
#23374600 - 06/23/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Alice in wonderland Cheshire cat style
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
#23374680 - 06/23/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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That same cat alerted my sister to the fact she was overheating on L (underneath a bunch of blankets on like 2.5 hits) he did the same thing, just like nuzzled up under her arm, then she realized she was not in control of the situation, she texted me, and when i came upstairs the cat was freaking out and like led me up the stairs to her room (i was on a similar dose) all the while screaming when i was distracted.. hes a trip. Lately he catches a mouse like almost every time I trip and brings it to me, which he wont normally do. Fucking cats man i know why the Egyptians treated them like royalty..
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: FractalMind]
#23374704 - 06/23/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's like Stephen King's 1985 thriller Cat's Eye.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: Starstepper]
#23374717 - 06/23/16 06:27 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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If I was on my computer and not my phone I'd throw up a pic of the cat fighting that little troll.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: FractalMind]
#23375445 - 06/23/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've seen those shadow cats too. sometimes they're really big like twice the size of a normal house cat, and other times they're the same size or smaller. It also seems to attract alot of normal cats for whatever reason too, I was tripping really hard walking down the street this one time an I saw like 10 cats group up and run around in front and past me. There's also this really powerful energy/aura that radiates off them. definitely more powerful spiritually than any human by a very large amount.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: mctaveesh]
#23378124 - 06/24/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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mctaveesh said: Why Quantum Computation specifically though? I haven't looked at Quantum computers that much to be honest even though I probably should. I remember hearing that they were not predicted to be all that useful for anything except for a few unusual uses that wouldn't be all that interesting.
Because of the underlying physics. Quantum computers will be known as "god machines" eventually, there will be laws to try to regulate their use, these will fail. Since they work by exploiting the parallel timelines that occur in the multiverse their potential is literally unlimited. Even today you can easily see that computation = money. Think about bitcoin minting for instance, or stock trading computers. That stuff is trivial by comparison as it's all about simple markers that denote "wealth". Now imagine that computation = power in a way that money can't touch. That's the future.
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