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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23369081 - 06/22/16 05:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Exactly...I will trip in places that are always secluded without ever anyone around then suddenly people and unusual animals will start to bombard the area on the day I decide to trip there.



Back when I still had my vacation home in the Catskills I had a 6g trip briefly interrupted by a lady neighbor.

I was laid out naked in my back yard, on a blanket, on my back, completely lost in the sun beams and clouds filtering
through this giant tree I was under. All kinds of critter chatter happening up in that tree. It was about Noon.

She suddenly appeared, on my property and asked if if was OK if she cut through.
I was like "huh?... What?, sure, whatever." :wtf:

The only time she ever went in her own back yard was to walk her dog,
which she did not have with her that day,
and she has never been on my property before in the 3 to 4 years she lived there.:confused:

I mentioned this to the wife later and she said "Yea, well she probably just wants your dick."
She was single, though I thought she had a girlfriend at the time.
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: healing]
    #23369584 - 06/22/16 10:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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healing said:
And what if it's just coincidence and confirmation bias?




It's far too frequent, unexplainable, constant, humorous, novel in its action and commonly noticed among others.
Some of these random events can be fairly profound and essentially make the trip.

My last LSD trip proved to me and my friend that it was not just in our heads. It wasn't just a few things that happened. Plus why does this seem to happen mostly on LSD? I think it's our minds and I don't think this is far fetched at all I think it's fairly normal when you actually finally understand how powerful the mind is.


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23369599 - 06/22/16 10:43 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I made a thread about this before, weird explainable stuff happens on psychedelics for sure 

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19366801




Ha early 2014 that's around the time I was dropping acid regularly too. I really have noticed it happens

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Grand Old Fart said:Back when I still had my vacation home in the Catskills I had a 6g trip briefly interrupted by a lady neighbor.

I was laid out naked in my back yard, on a blanket, on my back, completely lost in the sun beams and clouds filtering
through this giant tree I was under. All kinds of critter chatter happening up in that tree. It was about Noon.

She suddenly appeared, on my property and asked if if was OK if she cut through.
I was like "huh?... What?, sure, whatever." :wtf:

The only time she ever went in her own back yard was to walk her dog,
which she did not have with her that day,
and she has never been on my property before in the 3 to 4 years she lived there.:confused:

I mentioned this to the wife later and she said "Yea, well she probably just wants your dick."
She was single, though I thought she had a girlfriend at the time.
:burke:

:borfase: . . . :peace:




Lol how did she react to you being naked? I've also noticed that if something randomly happens on a continuum like once every month or 2 then it will jus randomly decide to happen when I trip. Not just the same day but during the same hour.


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23369920 - 06/22/16 01:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Could just be your own projections. Mushrooms making you believe things that aren't there.

At first I thought you meant the trip itself is weird, I was like "Yeahhhh isn't it greatttt?" :smile:

Maybe not though. Have no idea man. Sometimes I've thought that tripping makes you into like a 'Novelty-Attractor' where novel/weird/interesting/eventful events are pulled to you whenever you trip. Or after you're tripping. I always thought that perception was an incorrect perception though. It seems more that the mushrooms make you into a
Novelty-creator. Or 'seeker'. Where you feel more compelled to create your own novelty and eventful situations in your life and around you.

Of course that doesn't hold up to your situation of having things out of control that are weird happening to you.

Who knows man. Could be. Keep exploring friend. :thumbup:


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
    #23370139 - 06/22/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I just have to post this, if no other reason than to get some feedback on whether or not I'm insane.

When I take high dose mushroom trips, weird shit always happens. This is a phenomenon that I've been observing for several years.

I always, even in the middle of a STRONG trip, ask myself - ok, is this really weird or am I just high? I know mushrooms affect our perceptions. But I also know when something is fucking weird or out of place or not, even while tripping...because I can recall and think in a sober thought sequence.

Example: today, I'm on a 4.5g trip. Dosed up early this morning and I've since peaked. I live on a very remote road out in the middle of nowhere. Since i dosed, I've been out on our front porch just enjoying nature and tripping.
Cops have driven by 6 times in the past hour, and an unmarked truck has driven by 3 times.

I'm not surprised by this. Ive noticed it before. I literally tell my friends, watch, I'm gonna eat these shrooms and abnormal shit is gonna go down. It happens.

Ive resolved so much with mushrooms but this still defies my sober logic.

What the fuck? And it's not just cops. I go out into society with the fungus colonizing my brain, and see this weird kinda behavior all the time.

Im a skeptic by nature. One of the main reasons I'm still exploring mushrooms is because I'm authentically trying to figure out what the fuck they exactly do in reality, and what's coincidental.

I believe in auras. My animals have them, my friends and family, other people. One theory I have is that we as conscious beings emit and detect these auras, even if there isnt a science behind it. Is it possible we as conscious beings are on some level transceiving extrasensory information?

Have any of you experienced weird or unexplained circumstances and behavior on high trips?

Is there some merit to it, or is it just all coincidence, made meaningful and mysterious by altered brain chemistry?




Totally, and going back literally decades.  It's something I've been researching seriously for more than a few years now.  I've seen and experienced weird shit many times.  A lot of it is in my journals, as a trip report "Primal's Tripping Point" is where it all became real for me.  Beyond synchronicity, well beyond. I have considerable theoretical models that address the apparent alteration of probabilities that often occurs. They're highly technical though. 

My motivation is to be able to eventually instantiate these probability alterations in physical machines and control them, for computational purposes at least. 

Uhm, "magic boxes" in simple terms. :scaryshroom::thumbup:


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23370152 - 06/22/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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IveBeenRecycled said:
I just have to post this, if no other reason than to get some feedback on whether or not I'm insane.

When I take high dose mushroom trips, weird shit always happens. This is a phenomenon that I've been observing for several years.

I always, even in the middle of a STRONG trip, ask myself - ok, is this really weird or am I just high? I know mushrooms affect our perceptions. But I also know when something is fucking weird or out of place or not, even while tripping...because I can recall and think in a sober thought sequence.

Example: today, I'm on a 4.5g trip. Dosed up early this morning and I've since peaked. I live on a very remote road out in the middle of nowhere. Since i dosed, I've been out on our front porch just enjoying nature and tripping.
Cops have driven by 6 times in the past hour, and an unmarked truck has driven by 3 times.

I'm not surprised by this. Ive noticed it before. I literally tell my friends, watch, I'm gonna eat these shrooms and abnormal shit is gonna go down. It happens.

Ive resolved so much with mushrooms but this still defies my sober logic.

What the fuck? And it's not just cops. I go out into society with the fungus colonizing my brain, and see this weird kinda behavior all the time.

Im a skeptic by nature. One of the main reasons I'm still exploring mushrooms is because I'm authentically trying to figure out what the fuck they exactly do in reality, and what's coincidental.

I believe in auras. My animals have them, my friends and family, other people. One theory I have is that we as conscious beings emit and detect these auras, even if there isnt a science behind it. Is it possible we as conscious beings are on some level transceiving extrasensory information?

Have any of you experienced weird or unexplained circumstances and behavior on high trips?

Is there some merit to it, or is it just all coincidence, made meaningful and mysterious by altered brain chemistry?




Totally, and going back literally decades.  It's something I've been researching seriously for more than a few years now.  I've seen and experienced weird shit many times.  A lot of it is in my journals, as a trip report "Primal's Tripping Point" is where it all became real for me.  Beyond synchronicity, well beyond. I have considerable theoretical models that address the apparent alteration of probabilities that often occurs. They're highly technical though. 

My motivation is to be able to eventually instantiate these probability alterations in physical machines and control them, for computational purposes at least. 

Uhm, "magic boxes" in simple terms. :scaryshroom::thumbup:





Okay okay, Terence...


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: PaulMaster]
    #23370162 - 06/22/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23370226 - 06/22/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Which one's Terrence? :ilold:



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I think they're calling our names
Maybe now you can't hear them, but you will
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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23370242 - 06/22/16 03:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You. With your synchronicity computer wizard machines. :strokebeard:


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23370267 - 06/22/16 03:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I never paid much attention to McKenna, frankly.  More on the John Lilly side of the reality fence.  :lol:

Quantum computation is the dream tech of the future.  Observations of macro-scale quantum based world line alteration leads quite naturally to those sort of applications.  You'd have to be a fool to ignore it when it presents itself and leaves an evidence trail behind, even if the brain evolved to ignore such effects. :shrug:


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23371362 - 06/22/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

IMo it's better to just stay completely away from all those sorts of philosophers, because you'll get stuck on the things they say and the experiences they've had. Inevitably you won't be able to have unique experiences of your own you'll just have modified versions of their experiences, because that's most likely what your mind will be on when you're going into a trip on something you read about them taking as well. Although I may be completely wrong, that's just what i've witnessed.


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
    #23371682 - 06/22/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

But it's all about perspective anyways :shrug:

Many people I know who trip even though at the core they may share a lot of beliefs as their favorite philosopher I've also seen many stark disagreements between the person and their favorite philosopher on subjects like psychedelics. I really don't think they have much influence on you as you might think.


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: UniverseOfTheMind8]
    #23371688 - 06/22/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I was seriously into mushrooms well before I ever encountered McKenna (that was in the old Magical Blend magazine I expect, or maybe High Times).  He was just one of many people, none of whom I paid much attention to, though it was occasionally a good read... 

I tend to agree that the expectations inform the experience, and my early trips really had no expectations whatsoever, possibly that's why they were so interesting.  I came up with things to try based on the trips and then I would try them out the next time.  I'm still not done with those things. :lol:


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23372165 - 06/23/16 01:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Why Quantum Computation specifically though? I haven't looked at Quantum computers that much to be honest even though I probably should. I remember hearing that they were not predicted to be all that useful for anything except for a few unusual uses that wouldn't be all that interesting.

I am interested in ways to keep computer power progressing through new ways of storing information though. Like molecular/DNA/Optical/3-dimensional

I should probably look more into the Quantum computation stuff though.


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23372170 - 06/23/16 01:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I was really into McKenna until I finally started to actually be able to trip regularly and figure things out for myself.


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23372679 - 06/23/16 07:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I was really into McKenna until I finally started to actually be able to trip regularly and figure things out for myself.




That's not why people listen to McKenna lmfao


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23372817 - 06/23/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

It's all about whoever or whatever gives you the guts, confidence and information to go where you have never been before with these things. McKenna wasn't the reason I got into psychedelics but I don't know if I would of ever had dared to eat 5+ grams of mush in a completely dark room if I hadn't taken an interest in his books then listened to a couple lectures. It was a positive life changing event. Never been happier. Super happy to be able to get more info here on shroomery and push forward on my journey. Just bought 4 Lilly books on a recommendation  from a shroomerite on this thread. There are some smart mofos up in here. Learn a little from everyone is my goal.


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: Starstepper]
    #23372869 - 06/23/16 08:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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There are some smart mofos up in here. Learn a little from everyone is my goal.




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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23374081 - 06/23/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

O, k kewl.


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Re: The freaky and weird shit that inevitably seems to happen on higher dose mushroom trips [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23374436 - 06/23/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

One time on around a quarter of cubes, I was laying on a couch, peaking, tears and snot and shit running down my face, and we had this cat that was new to the house at the time, didn't EVER come around me, and while I was peaking he sort of nuzzled up zext to me, obviously terrified at the situation, anyway at that time I came out of an obe to him doing that, and i just looked in the corner of the room and i swear there was another cat, more like a shadow of a cat, which was obviously malevolent, just a naassty black shadow cat, and i was completely incapacitated to the point where i couldnt stand, and i just had to realize that i couldnt change it, it was there, and the real cat would keep me safe. We have been cool ever since.


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