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OfflineSpiritwithin
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Drugs and Society
    #23366130 - 06/21/16 08:33 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Why does almost every government in the world punish the use of drugs like marihuana, mushrooms and the likes?
Why is this so universal a phenomenon and why are lives spent in prison for having a bit of grass, tons of tax payers money wasted for prosecution of minor offenders, while other drugs like alcohol and nicotine kill more people every year and do more damage to society than whatnot? In certain countries you even get the death penalty for having some recreational drugs...

Entire agencies and branches of the law do nothing else but to search out and il-legalize every substance that may be enjoyable to take. Could this money not be better spent?

Is it just the fear of stupid people in power? Or is there something else that could explain this world wide insanity?

I really don't get this... People are allowed to carry guns and ammunition around, ready to kill a tax-payer at the push of a button, but the peaceful hippie smoking a joint in the park is locked up.
Individuals are not allowed to grow a few poppies, but big Pharma is allowed to make billions with obviously more often than not abused opiates.
And why are sentences so extremely out of ANY proportion? I mean wouldn't a fine for possession be enough of a deterent? It is for red lights at a crossing, isn't it?

I'm sure this topic has been discussed before, but still...

What do you think?


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Re: Drugs and Society [Re: Spiritwithin]
    #23366214 - 06/21/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Society expects the mature to dance to the same tune, in pairs.


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Re: Drugs and Society [Re: Spiritwithin]
    #23366518 - 06/21/16 10:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Independent thinking is the enemy of any government.  And fear of the unknown is a fundamental human trait.


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Re: Drugs and Society [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23366558 - 06/21/16 11:05 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

While the above two statements are true, they do not explain the magnitude of the problem, in my opinion.

Fear of the unknown? Sure, it contributes, but people also were allowed to fly to and land on the moon. Much was unknown too...

Walk in line and in pairs? Sure, but why allow alcohol then or even free speech?

I know these analogies are a bit far feched...  but valid I think.


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Re: Drugs and Society [Re: Spiritwithin]
    #23366610 - 06/21/16 11:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Spiritwithin said:
While the above two statements are true, they do not explain the magnitude of the problem, in my opinion.

Fear of the unknown? Sure, it contributes, but people also were allowed to fly to and land on the moon. Much was unknown too...

Walk in line and in pairs? Sure, but why allow alcohol then or even free speech?

I know these analogies are a bit far feched...  but valid I think.




you are asking a very relevant question. This is way I am understanding the shituation: It is more than a so-called 'war on drugs', a misnomer if ever I heard one, because THIS culture is always pushing their own DRUGS and even onto children, younger and younger. This is really a war on plants and fungi. A war on nature. it is SO irrational it is insane, and it is easy to imagine that it is rally just silly old (and young) mostly males who jest don't understand. But like you suspect it is far more than just ordinary ignorance, or the worry about what 'drugs' may do to the youth.

For one, this culture is all about control. It is militaristic and doesn't only want its soldiers stopping in line like a parade of robots, it wants control over our psyche too. And especially psychedelic fungi have the reputation for undermining such mind control, and that is a great fear of theirs, because they spend millions of our money finding ways to make us think and do like they want us to think and do (checkout Edward Bernays)

Knowing that people willy nilly can get psychedelics, they have had to further reort to other strategies like fake warning about brain damage, but also having leaders of the movem,ents suggest that transhumanism is the core meaning of being a psychonaut. Leary. McKenna and RAW were all into that. What they don't want is us remembering in a deep way our connection with the natural world which is utterly alive, and therefore ceasing dependence on their technocratic matrix, because their agenda is for us to want to implant their technology

Think about it, if people had free access to psychedelic fungi, the big pharma industry would lose vast profits. This is why they have also attacked being able to buy vitamins, and being able to grow your own food. it is a war on nature! On our very being, because we are nature

As well as this, as Dan Russell has revealed in his book Drug War, the covert operation of this fked up culture have relied on drug money, cocaine, heroin, cannabis, and a way to keep the price of it high and profitable is to pretend a war against it whilst they themselves are the bggest drug dealers, using the money gained for their corporate wars and such

So your right, there is more than meets the eye. But there is also good news. Countries like Portugal have decriminalized 'illegal' drugs, and it has been a big success (not sure about its position on magic mushrooms and psychedelics in general though. Must check it out)
14 Years After Decriminalizing All Drugs, Here's What Portugal Looks Like


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Re: Drugs and Society [Re: zzripz]
    #23366673 - 06/21/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks zzripz!
That was a great reply! I did not know about Portugals drug policies, very interesting.

I'll let this sink in a bit...

Have a nice one :wink:


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Edited by Spiritwithin (06/21/16 11:56 AM)


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Re: Drugs and Society [Re: Spiritwithin]
    #23366679 - 06/21/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Opium was banned because chinese were stealing white women. ..
Cannabis was banned becausE blacks and Mexicans were stealing white women.

The war on drugs has been nothing but an excuse to divide people.
And it still works quite effectively.


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Re: Drugs and Society [Re: Glameow]
    #23368870 - 06/22/16 01:27 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Well...

The last hour I've spent listening to Terence Mckenna on youtube.



This is the most fascinating and powerful speech I've ever heard in my life. Jaw-dropping truth and huge doses of wisdom. I feel like I just tripped.

Totally on topic of this thread as well.

Shroomerites, listen to this!


SW


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