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Re: Coincidences [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23371637 - 06/22/16 10:03 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
Paradox man. The deeper I dig, the more I find paradox at the end of every line of enquiry.




Here's an interesting bit by physicist/writer F. David Peat:

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"The indigenous mind may well be able to tolerate paradox and ambiguity because this order is closer to the inner structure of reality than a more mathematical form of logic."

"The essence of this tribal structuring of time is both eternal and moving.  For each dawn is both new and yet the same.  In the act of waking to the dawn, the mind is alert to new movements and sensations of a subtle and rapid nature, yet this dawn has a deep unity with every other dawn that is experienced by the tribe.  So the birth of the day is both fluid in its movement, and yet part of an eternal order of the tribe.  That a moment can be both timeful and timeless appears paradoxical to our own conception of what time should be."





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Re: Coincidences [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23371677 - 06/22/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for sharing that DQ. Since we've drifted into the topic of indigenous peoples, I'd love to share this short vid with you; it brings me to tears each and every time I watch (about a dozen so far):



Paradox again, I guess. Seeing the respect in killing an animal for food vs. the way we intensively farm to uphold our burgeoning population.


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Re: Coincidences [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23371782 - 06/22/16 10:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, things have changed all right.  Still, no one gets a free lunch.


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Re: Coincidences [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #23371961 - 06/22/16 11:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

God bless David Attenborough


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Re: Coincidences [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23372128 - 06/23/16 01:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, we're further away from reality than the savage living in the jungle, and probably even he is disconnected from things compared to the monkey living even further in the jungle.

We are massively dissociated from things, which is why I choose to live in a shack outside of a small town off the main artery of a small country in the corner of the world.

This is the land that the Devil forgot.


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Re: Coincidences [Re: viktor]
    #23372159 - 06/23/16 01:38 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Beautiful words. :thumbup:


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Re: Coincidences [Re: Psychogenic]
    #23372177 - 06/23/16 01:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I just had another one yesterday that is so strange that it is worth mentioning. I watched Dice the comedian for the first time a couple days ago (Look him up. He is funny by the way). The next day I open the door at my house and here comes a kid I never seen before wearing all black, leather jacket, leather cut off gloves, the whole sha bang. I lived here for years and never seen this kid before until after I watched this! Kids don't even walk around like that anymore. The weirder thing is, when I do have these coincidences, they never happen again. I will probably never see that kid again! They always synchronize with s novel event. This is just one incident. I don't like to feel egocentric, but it does make you question sometimes whether this is a simulation or something strange is going on here




It doesn't make me question such, but then again I understand the nature of probability and how the human brain tries to connect the dots even if they are not connected - no magic required.


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Re: Coincidences [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23372224 - 06/23/16 02:04 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Well that's just worshipping the rational brain?

I mean it's your choice.

Just make sure you don't doubt yourself.

Was rational thinking the doubt of intuition? Is that how it arose?

Just thoughts.

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It's important when you get on a certain level to - not doubt, but believe nothing. We like our science, let's be observers for now...

...If you get my drift, in those posts, which a couple of people do.

It's just a metaphor to navigate the chaos.

If you put my posts down to probability, what about thinking with your feelings about the posts?

Then you can go back to being rational. Just how does it FEEL to you? Learn to think with feeling, not just ideas.

They gave you the ideas to think with,
But your feelings are you own.
And only your understanding matters, only YOUR UNDERSTANDING will EVER BE REVEALED TO YOU.

:heart:

Perhaps it is probability from one perspective? But do you FEEL force in your head, trying to hold feeling back? So I mean, maybe rationality is just forcing it down...

And rationality was forced down our throats.

Just a big sea, a canvas, of different logics.

Perhaps!

It's probable!


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Re: Coincidences [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23372282 - 06/23/16 02:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Well that's just worshipping the rational brain?



Is that a question or a statement?

Understanding something is not worshipping. :rolleyes:

Believing in coincidence as having meaning is no different than seeing animals in cloud formations.


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Re: Coincidences [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23372386 - 06/23/16 04:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I guess I used worshipping in the context of, you know, we say we're scientific because we're rational, instead of being religious, but I say, you're just worshipping the rational brain. It's the same form of reliance, the same kind of choice to rely on something.

Feeling. We've definitely lost touch with feeling in philosophy (and everywhere else).

What do you feel when you don't think? Love, bliss, light, all the shenanigans.

So how do you start to think in those states? Is it different? Is it at least worth investigating?

I mean take your psychedelic or even your cannabis experiences. Was it just brain function or does consciousness have an order, and the brain just tunes into it?

Big supposition but check it out.

The intellectual musings you have are right, but take them into the context of feeling, and they are like... they have character. Knowledge, has "character." And levels. The same text, can mean something completely different depending on your "frequency" (as I'm suggesting).

If I'm right and I knew it I wouldn't shut up would I? :smile:


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Re: Coincidences [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23372389 - 06/23/16 04:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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DividedQuantum said:
Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
Paradox man. The deeper I dig, the more I find paradox at the end of every line of enquiry.




Here's an interesting bit by physicist/writer F. David Peat:

Quote:


"The indigenous mind may well be able to tolerate paradox and ambiguity because this order is closer to the inner structure of reality than a more mathematical form of logic."

"The essence of this tribal structuring of time is both eternal and moving.  For each dawn is both new and yet the same.  In the act of waking to the dawn, the mind is alert to new movements and sensations of a subtle and rapid nature, yet this dawn has a deep unity with every other dawn that is experienced by the tribe.  So the birth of the day is both fluid in its movement, and yet part of an eternal order of the tribe.  That a moment can be both timeful and timeless appears paradoxical to our own conception of what time should be."








Hey this is really good.

I apologise sometimes I get childishly wrapped up in my own ideas and don't stop to realise the significance of many of the posts on this forum. Some of you are... I mean wow.


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Re: Coincidences [Re: viktor]
    #23375723 - 06/24/16 12:19 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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viktor said:
Yeah, we're further away from reality than the savage living in the jungle, and probably even he is disconnected from things compared to the monkey living even further in the jungle.

We are massively dissociated from things, which is why I choose to live in a shack outside of a small town off the main artery of a small country in the corner of the world.

This is the land that the Devil forgot.




"further away from reality"

Meaning we are more lost in thought than connected to experience?


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Re: Coincidences [Re: jonmel77]
    #23379540 - 06/25/16 03:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I kind of agree with you in your last statement. My rationale always ends up overruling the situation and regards it as mere coincidence. Some of the shit that happens is just too hard to explain. It seems highly improbable to even happen. I end up just brushing it off.


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Re: Coincidences [Re: Psychogenic]
    #23379590 - 06/25/16 03:53 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah mate, best way to be.  Way too much of a head fuck to get caught up in these things although sometimes I venture down that path anyway out of pure intrigue.

Also its like riding a wave, when things are working out you want to keep that happening for as long as possible.  Too much thought definitely distracts from simply experiencing reality as it unfolds.


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Re: Coincidences [Re: jonmel77]
    #23379722 - 06/25/16 05:14 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Only chew what you can swallow.

Some of us have been alone with their minds and drugs for 10 years.

So we've got a leg up, but we get excited. :laugh:


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Re: Coincidences [Re: beforethedawn]
    #23390062 - 06/28/16 05:55 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Coincidences [Re: beforethedawn] * 1
    #23396408 - 06/30/16 05:20 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

It's called synchronicity, it's pretty common in the early stages of awakening, common occurrences are number sequencing and coincidences, its just your awareness beginning to recognize patterns within the matrix(dimensions/parallels) - everything that ever will or could happen already has, the present moment past and the future are all one - synchronicity is just a way of life for me now. You may be entering the early stages of the 4th dimension and leaving the materialistic world into the magical world.

"In The Material World
One seeks retirement and grows Old
In The Magical World
One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World
One seeks nothing and grows Lighter

As we all tread the Homeward Path
We will explore many Realms
And one day... we will all Realize
That all experiences are Simply

Different ways in which The

All-That Is

Perceives Itself"


Signs of 4th dimension awakening include regaining awareness of intuition, 11:11, repeating numbers reappearing, empathic traits and increased feeling of all emotion.

If you've ever broken through on DMT and experienced what is known as "nirvana" that is the 6th dimension, from there is where wisdom is attained, a realm of pure love and light and I am currently in the process of fully merging into the 5th dimension as human stresses leave my body, there is no longer any fear anxiety or worry, as every day I am guided by an eternal and internal confidence of my souls passion and journey, light and love is the only remaining guiding force left in my physical body, to stay in balance and my circle of humans I associate myself with is very important as you gain sensitivity and awareness as you grow.

Love transcends the dimensions
Love is the connecting force(energy) or glue which keep the dimensions in tact
To embrace love is to be light


I no longer seek wisdom, or anything from psychedelics. I am to just be, I am to just provide the love and light of my soul, in this dimension there is no fear, you are fully confident in your souls desires and journey

I'm going to continue to believe time and time again as it is proven to me through seeing and feeling.

And I will continue to grow and feel more connected and happier than I ever have in my life, I will continue to gain awareness and continue to emit love, and hell even if I am crazy what's wrong with that it seems to be making my life pretty exciting and beautiful, and in the least of the sense magical.

You guys could get a lot of help by just keeping an open mind, unless you continue to want to be a sheeple in the pack, I know most of you don't want to be considered "crazy" but I stand for what I believe in, and time and time again it has proven to myself true for years now, the people that awaken quickly are just more sensitive and aware, this isn't new age mumbo jumbo shit as it will be appearing in reality as we evolve as a species in the future anyway.

The entire planet is awakening at the moment at an exponential rate, you could have probably guessed it mainly started in 2012 and from there has just been exponentially growing globally and consciously. If you don't at least keep an open mind to this information you are no better than the rest of the unawakened pack. And if you're not catching onto what I'm saying you're just not at my level yet, it's okay though because everyone grows at their own rate on their path. I put a lot more time into it than the average person, at least take what I say into consideration, as new technology and era will eventually stem from these new age phenomena, it can all be proven scientifically and metaphysically, quantum engineering/mechanics. Get to reading boys and girls. Or don't your call.


Edited by Eclipse3130 (06/30/16 05:44 AM)


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Re: Coincidences [Re: Eclipse3130] * 1
    #23399649 - 07/01/16 12:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Eclipse3130 that was amazing and beautiful to read.

Everything could have ever happened already has? - this is the only part I disagree with. There are stories to be lived out, they haven't yet been lived out.

But perhaps from one perspective, it is true, everything has happened.

But from my current one, I see only stories emerging, with certain people around me. There is some goal, to this conundrum, it isn't here to punish anybody.

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