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MycoLoopology
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: mupetmower]
#23387084 - 06/27/16 09:05 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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mupetmower said: i would still put a piece of foil between those cakes and the mesh. its not gonna keep the myc from going down into the perlite.
but good job with some pins. might have more if you would put foil down.
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: mupetmower] [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23387299 - 06/27/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, as I have mentioned above, I did put tinfoil beneath the cakes before pinning, but i have cut it exactly the size of the cakes as suggested. I also think there are some more pins showing up.
I will try to post new pics every day or so to show the progress as a personal log. I am very excited about my children growing after all this waiting and cleaning and, I want to share my joy with the people and the site that got me this far.
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: wild_shroom]
#23389456 - 06/27/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I need some help guys and girls..
This morning I noticed a little blueing on some cakes. It's not much but it concerned me.
Here are some pics and one with extra saturation for the colors to show.
  
Any ideas? Should I isolated these cakes?
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MycoLoopology
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: wild_shroom]
#23390126 - 06/28/16 06:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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very mild bruising? i wouldnt worry.
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spacechildo
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cakes are looking pretty dry, you should mist them. its just bruising.
do you have your sgfc in a closet or corner or anywhere but in the open?
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: spacechildo]
#23390228 - 06/28/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I try to mist the cakes every four hours. The pics are just before misting.
The setup is in a wardrobe closet. I used to leave it open by day to have the natural sunlight (not direct), but the temperature was about 30C (86F) so (on the 1st pinnig day) I put in a 6500 fluorescent 100W equivalent light bulb and closed the closet. I try to lower the temp with some ice packs below the sgfc but it only drops to 28C (82.4F) at best.
Should I reconsider or go with this setup until harvest?
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: wild_shroom]
#23390281 - 06/28/16 07:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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take it out of the closet if its a really small space. for the SGFC to work correctly, you need it to be at least a foot from all walls/obstructions on it's sides, and 4-6in, at least, off the table it's sitting on. but also, dont keep it closed off. mine is in my closet, but its a decent sized closet. at first, i left the door shut, but when i started leaving it open, it really helped things out.
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: wild_shroom]
#23390294 - 06/28/16 07:51 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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the sgfc want at least a few feet clearance to all walls. get it out of the closet I can see it on your mushrooms that the chamber isnt functioning as it should. and get it elevated if it isnt.
man I'm slow
Edited by spacechildo (06/28/16 07:52 AM)
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: mupetmower]
#23390592 - 06/28/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm so relieved it is not mold. One or two more cakes bruised a bit too and I was afraid it was spreading already :P
Here are today's pics!  (I still have new pins popping around)
small sgfc:
  
single suspicious cake:

big sgfc:
 
also, meet Dick. fast grower..

Thanks for the tips fellas!
I can't put the sgfc on a table in the middle of the 2-room apartment. :P But I opened the closet completely and put them as far as the walls as possible. They are high from the ground and also have clearance from the closet floor. I put away the bulb and I suppose I will stop trying to lower the temp since the ice packs are no use trying to cool down the whole room.
Should I leave the door to the balcony open so the city air circulates the room or not?
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: wild_shroom]
#23391065 - 06/28/16 12:58 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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wild_shroom said: I'm so relieved it is not mold. One or two more cakes bruised a bit too and I was afraid it was spreading already :P
Here are today's pics!  (I still have new pins popping around)
small sgfc:
  
single suspicious cake:

big sgfc:
 
also, meet Dick. fast grower..

Thanks for the tips fellas!
I can't put the sgfc on a table in the middle of the 2-room apartment. :P But I opened the closet completely and put them as far as the walls as possible. They are high from the ground and also have clearance from the closet floor. I put away the bulb and I suppose I will stop trying to lower the temp since the ice packs are no use trying to cool down the whole room.
Should I leave the door to the balcony open so the city air circulates the room or not?
'city air' sort of killed it for me on that last question lol. but im still not sure what the BEST method would be here. if you have to leave it in a closet, then you probably want as much airflow as possible so you get passive FAE.
it looks super dry in that SGFC still too! but youve got mushrooms growing so thats always a good sign (;
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Hi again!
well, the growth have been rapid! Today some veils started braking and caps opening. I am thinking of flushing tonight or tomorow and I have to ask you this: should I harvest the ones with open caps and let the others grow some more or all together?
Also, some cakes seem to be slower than others. Can I harvest them later or all cakes should be flushed together?
a single pic of the big sgfc: (others to follow)
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: wild_shroom]
#23393073 - 06/29/16 05:11 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey yea man only harvest the mushrooms with the open caps and also the shrooms that are large but haven't opened yet. Due to statistics showing they have higher potency before the veil breaks and caps open up. So since you have some nice large/tall shrooms without the cap opened I would harvest them. Harvest only the mushrooms ready and let the rest grow and get more weight on them. Once the cake stops producing like yours are then you can re dunk them. So once again harvest each one that is matured enough to be harvested, and let the rest grow. Either take a super sharp medical scissors to cut them at the base, or what I did was lightly grab the base and gently twist. You don't want to pull bc it will damage the cake.
Congratulations on your grow. It looks fantastic for personal consumption
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: psilo.jts]
#23393179 - 06/29/16 06:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah, you can harvest at different times. if you have a big cluster of mushrooms and one is opening it's cap a lot sooner than the others, then you can even just use scissors or x-acto to snip just the cap off, and let the rest of the cluster finish maturing.
as for what the previous guy said, i have seen no factual evidence showing higher potency at either time. you can harvest right before veil breaks, right as it is breaking, right after it breaks, or even a little after it breaks, letting the cap open more, if you want to take prints. its preference, really. nothing more.
once the veil starts tearing, the mushrooms growth is basically done. the only thing that will happen now, is the cap opening a bit more, but weighing essentially the same. so its just up to you. you just want to make sure you harvest before they drop their spore load everywhere, though.
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: mupetmower]
#23393250 - 06/29/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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nice going but still
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mupetmower said: for the SGFC to work correctly, you need it to be at least a foot from all walls/obstructions on it's sides, and 4-6in, at least, off the table it's sitting on.
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: spacechildo]
#23396628 - 06/30/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thaks for the replies 
I have started the harvest and it's going great. I don't have a scale for now but I have some very pretty fruits!
Here are some picks from various stages of the harvest:
Small sgfc:
   
Large sgfc:
 
Isolated cake: (still no sign of the black mold - shrooms are safe to eat right?)

Here are some of my fav cake pics:
  
  
Some of my relatively big mushrooms so far:
 
Remember Dick? He got big!

Finally, look at this beautiful mutation!
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: wild_shroom]
#23396642 - 06/30/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah, you have some great fruits there. the size should help make up for their lack of quantity a little.
great job, man!
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: mupetmower]
#23396825 - 06/30/16 08:47 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nice! Cool mutation!
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: Kenetic]
#23420154 - 07/07/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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An update to the current status: The first flush gave 605g fresh mushrooms of 20 cakes total. Ninety grams were consumed fresh by me and 2 friends of mine (30g each). More about our curious trip report here: https://www.shroomery.org/13715/Tripping-on-fresh-cambodians
I fan dried the rest for 3 days straight and now I try to make them cracker dry with silica gel packs. The silica gel is in non indicating packs and from what I read there shouldn't be a problem if it touched the mushrooms. Would it be ok to put a pack or two in the bag/jar where they are gonna be stored long term?
The grow itself is in its second cycle (dunked and rolled well) and this time I put the fruiting chambers on small tables in the middle of my room after all.. I also spray a LOT more and more often. I literally feel my right arm getting stronger - and no, my masturbating habits haven't changed that much. Well, maybe a little because of the greek summer getting hotter.
I have a cheap digital hygro/thermometer hanging in one of the sgfcs and it shows always HI which means above 95%. I have some promising fruits growing and some big pins too, but not like the first flush.
Here are some pics:
  
The bigger yellow shrooms are the pins that survived the dunk and roll process.
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: wild_shroom]
#23421151 - 07/07/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wouldn't mist more than you did, honestly. It looked fine. Especially once you start getting bigger pins, you don't want to water log them and cause bacterial blotch. If you are feeling it in your forearm from misting, then I would dial it back a bit.
Also, for future reference don't roll on subsequent flushes. Only roll after their first dunk, right after birth.
But good job, man. They are looking good.
Oh, also, I doubt the silica will get them properly cracker dry, honestly. If you can, just go ahead and get a food dehydrator. You can find them for like $20-30.
EDIT - asp, throw the hygrometer away. It's only going to confuse you. Your my want a constant 95% rH, anyways. You want a fluctuating rH, with Evap. Also, the only place the rH even matters is on the cake's surface, too, which you can't even measure with that hygrometer. Your eyes are your best hygrometer.
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Edited by mupetmower (07/07/16 07:08 PM)
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Re: First grow Cambodians PF-tek [Re: mupetmower]
#23421232 - 07/07/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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nice man! Alot better pinset and yield than my first PF grow.
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