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MycoLoopology
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40 jars was too much -__- (also thinking about mixed tub for fun)
#23362975 - 06/20/16 06:47 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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just wanted to boost the ego of whoever told me i was doing too many jars for my first grow after hiatus lol. definitely overwhelming me a bit to think about how many fucking quart jars im working with right now.
and my plan was to G2G those 40 jars into 80 while making as many 66qt monos as possible with the left over. ive got enough jars technically to run around 200, but that just seems impossible to maintain.
B+, PE, Amazon, GT, Z+
those are the 5 strains going into 40 quart jars.
second subject though i wanted some insight on. ive seen some experiments where people mix different strains of mycelium in a single tub to get multiple strains growing in ONE tub. would anyone recommend any mixture of these strains?
for instance, do you guys have any knowledge off the top of your head, which of these strains would work together, or enjoy the SAME micro-climate? or is it all pretty much the same?
also, would one strain take over another if it has stronger growth properties etc.? the fact that im using MS makes me feel like things will be all over the place in that respect, and hard to gauge properly.
hoping that with your help, my novelty tub full of strains will be a fun AND successful grow lol
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Re: 40 jars was too much -__- (also thinking about mixed tub for fun) [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23363011 - 06/20/16 07:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would not mix strains.
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MycoLoopology
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Re: 40 jars was too much -__- (also thinking about mixed tub for fun) [Re: Morel Guy]
#23363021 - 06/20/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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it was only going to be for fun. that tub would be a mini-mono most likely and just an experiment with an extra jar or two i have left over after G2G and bigger mono's are finished being set up.
i wouldnt be expecting amazing results. just wondering if anyone here has any tips or hints for me on how to successfully get it going.
maybe keep the grains farther apart in the substrate mixture? that way the two myc's dont fight each other, but instead, will meet in the middle at around full colonization? in theory this sounds like it could work and grow me two beautiful strains of mushrooms in one tub 
or even put all 5 strains in there lol. one strain in each corner, and one strain in the middle hahahaha. see how the myc fights for control and see who wins!
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Re: 40 jars was too much -__- (also thinking about mixed tub for fun) [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23363041 - 06/20/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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At 5 quarts per 66 qt mono, 80 jars would be 16 monotubs, plus the 5 or so you'll have already made with your leftover. If you have space for 20+ monos then you can definitely manage. IF you have them all dialed in. If you do something wrong that will be a nightmare trying to fix. Also gonna cost a shitload of money for all those sterlite a unless they are on sale which is rare.
Not to mention if you are only using 1 PC 80 jars is 10 or 11 cycles. Which you will want to do in a period of 2 or 3 days to avoid having them sit there.
And you better have your field capacity down with your substrate mix or you are fucked.
The time each of these steps will take is a little scary for me to think about for a hobby. But if you don't work or anything it's doable.
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MycoLoopology
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Re: 40 jars was too much -__- (also thinking about mixed tub for fun) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23363065 - 06/20/16 07:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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i have 20 brand spanking new 66qt sterilite tubs haha. also i have 5-6 other mono-tubs already set up from past grows. i also have 3 PC's, though i can only fit two on my stove at once. but i can run the third one while the other 2 cool off.
i definitely have the gear. time is mostly the problem thats stressing me out. i need to continue my day to day job if im gonna support my family while this pans out. (3 kids, 10 animals, a wife...)
as for space. i wont brag but my house is more than adequate in room. i have a full attic i COULD use. i have a full guest room i am using. and i have a 500sqft guest house i can use in its entirety. (it burned down before i bought the house, but it was cleaned up and whats left of it is moldy but stable. i plan to fix it up slightly and turn it into a big marijuana grow, or a mushroom grow, or a nursery for my wife. whatever it turns into though, the space is at least available!
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Re: 40 jars was too much -__- (also thinking about mixed tub for fun) [Re: MycoLoopology] 1
#23363098 - 06/20/16 07:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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if ur in a position to jump off the deep end, more power to you. but I honestly, with all my heart, believe that if u already know the basics of grain>agar>fruiting (not a master of it, just knowing the basics) then you will become a much better grower, much faster, by spending time just observing ur own tubs, your own strains, your own clones, your own substrates, etc and improving it from there rather than engaging in a dialogue with the community that itself can be very divided on many of those things. this community is awesome, its not a knock on it at all
experience is everything, but it needs to be the #1 priority of your time if you want to grow big. this place can only get one so far.
u just gotta do it man. jump in without a life vest until the glass is full
edit: don't quit ur day job, thats important too. but just don't spend a lot of time on here for a couple months…focus ur extra time on watching ur stuff, not other peoples stuff
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Re: 40 jars was too much -__- (also thinking about mixed tub for fun) [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23363130 - 06/20/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok man, well like I said. The two most important and scary factors are time and your field capacity. Just be able to manage both.
And don't grow in a moldy burnt down house
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MycoLoopology
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Re: 40 jars was too much -__- (also thinking about mixed tub for fun) [Re: SloppyJoseph]
#23363170 - 06/20/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said: if ur in a position to jump off the deep end, more power to you. but I honestly, with all my heart, believe that if u already know the basics of grain>agar>fruiting (not a master of it, just knowing the basics) then you will become a much better grower, much faster, by spending time just observing ur own tubs, your own strains, your own clones, your own substrates, etc and improving it from there rather than engaging in a dialogue with the community that itself can be very divided on many of those things. this community is awesome, its not a knock on it at all
experience is everything, but it needs to be the #1 priority of your time if you want to grow big. this place can only get one so far.
u just gotta do it man. jump in without a life vest until the glass is full
edit: don't quit ur day job, thats important too. but just don't spend a lot of time on here for a couple months…focus ur extra time on watching ur stuff, not other peoples stuff
fair enough, and great advice for sure. luckily i work from home as is, so i have a little more lee way when it comes to taking care of home projects. while it IS going to cut into other hobby time, my plan to pretty much go full out on THIS hobby and forego others. (aside from exercising, thats needed imo :p)
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SloppyJoseph said: Ok man, well like I said. The two most important and scary factors are time and your field capacity. Just be able to manage both.
And don't grow in a moldy burnt down house
HOPEfully i can manage both those. ive had good luck in the past, but well see i suppose. and about the moldy burnt down guest house lol. yeah, i dont plan to use it until its FULLY fixed up. its an easily 10-20k investment to fix, so unless i plan to do a lot of work on it, its probably just going to stay as is... the only EASIER option i came up with was to maybe create a cheap layer of insulation. board it over. and then cover the entire indoor space in thick plastic. definitely cheaper than building the whole thing back up, and as long as the plastic enclosure is 100% air tight with only one entrance from a safe mold free location.. i imagine it CAN work. but thats not for now, definitely more of a future project lol.
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Re: 40 jars was too much -__- (also thinking about mixed tub for fun) [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23363424 - 06/20/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Keep yer day job, don't give it away, keep yer day job, till yer night job pay
use bags, 80 jars is too many jars, that'll be your bottleneck I bet.
Bags do more with less time. 12 quarts + g2g(one jar>>one bag) + two weeks time = 12 tubs worth (using only a dozen jars)
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MycoLoopology
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Re: 40 jars was too much -__- (also thinking about mixed tub for fun) [Re: filthyknees]
#23365997 - 06/21/16 07:07 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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bags. why do i keep forgetting about bags. thank you.
when i g2g these masters im definitely doing at least half in bags. ive been meaning to try it for a while; just havent. good shit.
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Re: 40 jars was too much -__- (also thinking about mixed tub for fun) [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23366154 - 06/21/16 08:44 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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MycoLoopology said: and my plan was to G2G those 40 jars into 80
1 to 10 is a pretty standard ratio of g2g, so 40jars would make 400, you only need/want 8-10 master jars to g2g into 80 new ones.
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MycoLoopology
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Re: 40 jars was too much -__- (also thinking about mixed tub for fun) [Re: spacechildo]
#23366515 - 06/21/16 10:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
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MycoLoopology said: and my plan was to G2G those 40 jars into 80
1 to 10 is a pretty standard ratio of g2g, so 40jars would make 400, you only need/want 8-10 master jars to g2g into 80 new ones.
LOL, i know. ive G2G'd plenty of times. i keep saying im making like 4-5 monos too :/ im only using 1-2 jars of each as an actual master jar. but with the inclusion of bags, perhaps ill cycle out an extra 1-3 jars of each strain for bags as well
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