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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: Universaleyeni]
    #23365710 - 06/21/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I have also noticed, in my city more than other's, some strange "drivers ego" where people tend to speed up if they see you put your blinker on to get over in another lane.

It is hilariously mind boggling.





Happens all the time here, they go slow and the moment you try to pass em they speed up........ then there are other people who pass you and get in front of you only to slow down......




Oh god the driving games as i call em. Sounds just like my city! Why do they do this? What do they gain?

Around here everyone seems like theyre in the biggest hurry ever. I spot a red light a few blocks ahead and coast in neutral. Pissed off drivers whip out from behind me, cut me off, and sit a whole cars length ahead of me at the red light. :lol:

What sucks is, these people carry that tension and vibe with them all day, spreading it everywhere they go.




I experience that too,  those speedy motherfuckers end up at the same damned traffic light as me!  But we have other weird driving issues here in Portland, the overly cautious drivers who are somewhat ADHD.  Like they literally can't figure out who got there first at 4 way stop and are waving me on when it's their turn.  And then, as a pedestrian, I know when I'm jay walking, please don't stop your car like 30 feet ahead of me to wave me on to jaywalk, just drive and I will cope with getting across the street on my own, I'm an adult, I'm not going to go run out in front of them.  Also, nobody in Oregon knows how to merge onto the interstate, it's a tragicomedy.


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23365783 - 06/21/16 04:42 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I think the most enraging thing are people who drive behind at night with full beam headlights turned on. Thankfully i got a working rear fog light.


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23365789 - 06/21/16 04:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Especially if you're driving windy country roads.....


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23366524 - 06/21/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Perhaps it's the feeling of being an isolated being in a foreign world that's exacerbated by being caged in a small rolling metal box. Dealing with all these nameless/faceless assholes.


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23367481 - 06/21/16 04:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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What is it with people in their little portable pieces of property? So many seem to act like a man defending his home whilst in them, yet they are on public property when doing so.

I've seen people in cars act like they're indestructible, and the shock that hits them when they realise they aren't. Why does being in a car rob so many of their humility?




Not too many people are humble anymore.  Entitled is more like it.  If you think road rage is bad, look at what's going on in Venezuela right now.  Socialism is bad, and people that are entitled are a plague.  People are killing people for a bag of rice, literally.  It's unreal, the country has literally the largest reserves of oil in the world and is flat broke.

Anyway back on topic check out Stop a Douchebag a Russian video series.  I find it funny, but also quite telling the different largely entitled arrogant responses.  A very interesting psychological exercise, and apparently Russians lack humility in their cars even more than this country.  I wonder though how soon one of those guys gets full on run over or shot putting their stickers or standing in front of cars if they tried that here.


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23371978 - 06/22/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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If you think road rage is bad, look at what's going on in Venezuela right now.  Socialism is bad, and people that are entitled are a plague. 

People are killing people for a bag of rice, literally.  It's unreal, the country has literally the largest reserves of oil in the world and is flat broke.






Instead of blaming Socialism, why don't you blame human nature?


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... *DELETED* [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23374168 - 06/23/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: psychobla]
    #23374210 - 06/23/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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The animal mind is more concerned with asserting dominance while driving than preserving life. This seems to be exacerbated in individuals who have a hard time asserting themselves in other ways.




I think you're right, one gets to hide behind their car so it's easy to flip somebody the bird and be on the offense.  Outside the car I bet they'd think twice.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23374603 - 06/23/16 05:55 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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The animal mind is more concerned with asserting dominance while driving than preserving life. This seems to be exacerbated in individuals who have a hard time asserting themselves in other ways.




I think you're right, one gets to hide behind their car so it's easy to flip somebody the bird and be on the offense.  Outside the car I bet they'd think twice.




The last time somebody hassled me in my car there were three of them and one of me.  I met up with them later at the store, and the one dude was a mean looking dude.  I noticed he was not willing to look at me square on, in spite of flipping me off earlier.  Sure, it's not as if he was going to fuck with me in the produce section. Anyway these dudes were tailing me, and my response when being tailgated is to slow down.  If it persists, I slow down further.  40 in a 55?  why not?  35 in a 55?  sure.  Then they don't pass when it's 100% clear to do so?  WTF??? That's when I slow down to 30.  You want my ass, here it is.

Still, if push comes to shove I'll run them all over rather than getting out of my car.  Last guy who bravely stood in front of me wanting a road rage fight almost saw two axles.



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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23374619 - 06/23/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yah, I see what you mean.

But on the interstate when I'm in the fast lane I do try to stay pretty close to the car ahead of me, but it's not with the intent of trying to make them go faster, it's the fact that people love to cut me off and then slow down.  All I'm doing is denying anyone else the opportunity in.  Why they do this, I have no fucking idea.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23374631 - 06/23/16 06:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Yah, I see what you mean.

But on the interstate when I'm in the fast lane I do try to stay pretty close to the car ahead of me, but it's not with the intent of trying to make them go faster, it's the fact that people love to cut me off and then slow down.  All I'm doing is denying anyone else the opportunity in.  Why they do this, I have no fucking idea.




Portland has some of the worst left lane doing 55 drivers ever.  They love to box you in and parallel the driver in the middle lane.  It's absurd.  Their way of "controlling" speed?

No, my thing is to drive safely.  This means let the left lane go as fast as they want, and maintain a car length for every 10 mph.  I always try to let the fast traffic by.  This can mean pulling in behind a slower driver to let them go.  I had some guy give me a thumbs up recently for doing that, I just see it as courtesy and a safer thing than the "Portland" mode.


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23374675 - 06/23/16 06:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Yah, I see what you mean.

But on the interstate when I'm in the fast lane I do try to stay pretty close to the car ahead of me, but it's not with the intent of trying to make them go faster, it's the fact that people love to cut me off and then slow down.  All I'm doing is denying anyone else the opportunity in.  Why they do this, I have no fucking idea.




Portland has some of the worst left lane doing 55 drivers ever.  They love to box you in and parallel the driver in the middle lane.  It's absurd.  Their way of "controlling" speed?

No, my thing is to drive safely.  This means let the left lane go as fast as they want, and maintain a car length for every 10 mph.  I always try to let the fast traffic by.  This can mean pulling in behind a slower driver to let them go.  I had some guy give me a thumbs up recently for doing that, I just see it as courtesy and a safer thing than the "Portland" mode.




That's precisely what Portland drivers do! I mean ideally I'd leave a few car lengths ahead for safety purposes, and I do after 7pm or so when things lighten up, but traffic starts to get pretty shitty here on I-5 & 205 from mid afternoon.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #23374686 - 06/23/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Yah, I see what you mean.

But on the interstate when I'm in the fast lane I do try to stay pretty close to the car ahead of me, but it's not with the intent of trying to make them go faster, it's the fact that people love to cut me off and then slow down.  All I'm doing is denying anyone else the opportunity in.  Why they do this, I have no fucking idea.




Portland has some of the worst left lane doing 55 drivers ever.  They love to box you in and parallel the driver in the middle lane.  It's absurd.  Their way of "controlling" speed?

No, my thing is to drive safely.  This means let the left lane go as fast as they want, and maintain a car length for every 10 mph.  I always try to let the fast traffic by.  This can mean pulling in behind a slower driver to let them go.  I had some guy give me a thumbs up recently for doing that, I just see it as courtesy and a safer thing than the "Portland" mode.




That's precisely what Portland drivers do! I mean ideally I'd leave a few car lengths ahead for safety purposes, and I do after 7pm or so when things lighten up, but traffic starts to get pretty shitty here on I-5 & 205 from mid afternoon.




Yep.  I've lived all over, and other than PA where people are stupid, or FL where they are too old, or Boston where they are just red light runners, Portland OR has some of the worst drivers ever.  They all love to drive slow and right next to each other.  It's some kind of socialist thing.


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23374699 - 06/23/16 06:23 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

This thread makes me love the fact that I'm a biker even more. It's so nice to not have to deal with this bullshit. Cause:



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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23374724 - 06/23/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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This thread makes me love the fact that I'm a biker even more. It's so nice to not have to deal with this bullshit. Cause:






No cars where you ride your bike?



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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #23374730 - 06/23/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Mate, thousands. I ride in central London every day. I go round them all, and am at the front of every set of red traffic lights.

Riding my Ducati to/from work is the best part of my weekdays.



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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23374774 - 06/23/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I'd suggest you watch Stop A Douchebag but that's a nice looking bike.  If you can pass them and get to the front of the line, you may have a point.


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: psychobla]
    #23375773 - 06/24/16 12:51 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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The animal mind is more concerned with asserting dominance while driving than preserving life.

This seems to be exacerbated in individuals who have a hard time asserting themselves in other ways.




And exacerbated in individuals with insecuity and inflated egos


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23382031 - 06/25/16 08:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

This is pretty disgusting, but I've noticed when I look at people in cars next to me at stop lights, just how many people are obliviously picking their noses and eating their boogers. :puke: I mean, men and women alike do this and they seem to be completely uncaring that they are encased in window glass! I suppose that if they're of the mentality that eats dirty, bacteria-laden, blood-encrusted nasal dingleberries, then they don't care if others see them do it.


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Re: The psychology of people in cars... [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #23382752 - 06/26/16 01:31 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Heheheh, I wish my car had dark tinted windows.  I hate driving in a fishbowl.

Here in Portland my driving style has aligned pretty well with the driving culture.  It's not my favorite part of the country that I've lived and driven in.  But it's by far not the worst either (looking at you Miami). 

Some things I like about Portland driving. 
People are courteous
Generally can drive in the rain
drives up and down and around corners well
Not a lot of crazy fuckers


Some things I dislike about Portland driving.
Passive aggressively courteous driving
Speed limit is too slow which makes passing sllooooow
People are scared because the cops love giving out traffic tickets
More that average amount of oblivious drivers


I prefer somewhere like Boston or anywhere in California as far as faster speed, more aware drivers, and less fucking traffic cops.  It's not that I speed or anything either.  Just want to be able to pass a car in less than an hour without worrying about some ninja hidden motorcycle cop

What I'm saying is that I've chilled out and slowed down and just drive like all the other Portlanders.  It's like I've taken the blue pill, or chip to the city of light, or whatever originality my driving character possessed and conformed to the institution of Portland driving.  It's actually amazing how alike all the drivers here are.  I guess it's because Portland is a fairly homogenous culture too.  Go somewhere like San Jose California, and you have no idea how the next car that pulls in front of you is going to drive.  There's people from all over the world.  Mostly Mexico, India, China, Japan.  Luckily they are thrown into the high standards of California driving, so it's not as terrible as somewhere like Miami, where foreigners learn american driving culture from geriatrics and angry east coaster types.  Although, Californians are only great on a dry flat straight road.  But put a million cars out there all going 80 mph and there's a lot less collisions than there should be.  So there's not a huge traffic accident every rush hour.. Like in Miami, but hey on the bright side, at least it consistently takes forever to drive anywhere in Miami.  But Portland traffic has gotten a lot worse since I've been driving around here (on and off the last 20 years).  It's objectively really bad, but I don't really mind traffic all that much. 

Of course driving in the sparsely populated areas (Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Nebraska, Wyoming, etc,) Is the best.  As Sarte said, Hell is other people.  The only problem with rural driving is that when you do eventually drive around someone else they have no fucking clue how to drive with other cars on the road.  They do shit like not use a turn signal when turning off a 65 mph into a driveway.  Not keeping a constant speed.  Basic shit like that.  But it's way better to drive alone.  I hate all the random people controlling tons of metal at high speed all around me, and totally casually, like texting on the phone and putting on make-up.  It's really one of the things that helps me keep perspective on other fears and anxieties.  If I have an irrational fear, I can compare it to how I hardly ever get afraid of driving.  But according to statistics, it's the most likely way I'll get seriously injured or die.  That would be something logical to fear.  But I don't.  And if I can somehow feel easy about something as crazy as driving, then I can surely quit worrying about whatever that irrational fear is.

*sorry accidental edit instead of quote - CJ.


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