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haze9
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There are a lot of things that can put you in a very uncomfortable state. Bad trips aren't rocket science though.
I've found that low blood sugar is a common issue. People tend to tell you things such as "do not eat before taking shrooms" and "fast before tripping". You stop eating and little do you know, your low blood sugar is giving you anxiety and panic attacks.
Other times the problem is simply having second thoughts upon taking the drug, or improper administration/dose. You "eat that shit raw" and your stomach happens to be a bit more sensitive to chitin than you thought. Or you "take all the good shit" when you should have started with a single blotter.
Salvia can and will give you difficult experiences, it's a kappa-opioid agonist. There's science behind that. Other drugs shouldn't put you in such a state though, there's always something else. Clumsiness, most frequently.
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PassiveMenis
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: haze9]
#23362897 - 06/20/16 05:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's no such thing as bad trips.
You can learn just as much, if not more from a "bad trip"
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: PassiveMenis]
#23362911 - 06/20/16 05:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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bad trips are caused by a lack of benzodiazepines
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: PassiveMenis] 1
#23363019 - 06/20/16 07:08 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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PassiveMenis said: There's no such thing as bad trips.
You can learn just as much, if not more from a "bad trip"
blah blah blah
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PassiveMenis
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: Sheekle] 1
#23363039 - 06/20/16 07:18 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rude.
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: PassiveMenis] 1
#23363088 - 06/20/16 07:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's no such thing as rude comments.
You can learn just as much, if not more from a "rude comment".
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: Sheekle]
#23363094 - 06/20/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, I learned quite a lot about you just now.
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Mike4aco
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Quote:
howsyournaggerdoin said: bad trips are caused by a lack of benzodiazepines
Never taken a benzo in my life. Never had a bad trip either.
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BANANA.MAN
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: Mike4aco]
#23363177 - 06/20/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sheekle, my brother. This thread is just an attempt by your subconscious mind to deny your personal demons. Just let go and bob marley will accept your soul into the kingdom of heaven, brother.
Edited by BANANA.MAN (06/20/16 10:42 AM)
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23363187 - 06/20/16 08:38 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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For real though many things can cause bad trips. Wishing you took less and being unable to.
Having a bad mindset or uncomfortable setting (rude people, awkward situations, possibility of being caught, ect.).
Low blood sugar as was mentioned above.
Cannabis paranoia.
body load especiallybif the person was tense going intonthe experience.
Being too high.
And ofcourse sudden painful realizations, brother.
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#23363215 - 06/20/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think for someone to enjoying tripping in general it helps to have a flexible view of reality to begin with. If before you've taken any drugs you're of the mindset that there's more than meets the eye you'll probably greatly enjoy tripping. I've never had a bad trip but have certainly had extremely intense trips where I had no idea who or what I was or where or when I was. It just didn't bother me to be in that state. I have known several people who have a rigid view of reality who have had "bad" experiences on hallucinogens because (I think) they were not comfortable lifting the veil. They went through their trip trying to hang on to their rigid views and couldn't rectify what they were experiencing.
I also agree that mindset, setting and dosage are important to pay attention to. Fortunately changing your mindset or setting is fairly easy.
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: pmcast]
#23363400 - 06/20/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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be careful with weed too. An awesome, laughy trip can turn into a nightmare with one hit
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: Near Dylan]
#23363415 - 06/20/16 10:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea fuck stupid pot
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: Sheekle]
#23364072 - 06/20/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't think you should try and confirm this completely. Saying that it's an act of anxiety from being too high on drugs is just another way of wording what you had previously said. And words are a construct of our own, not a foundation to establish tripping on. None of us can prove whether tripping too hard or bad tripping is more like either one of these things.
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: Sheekle]
#23364237 - 06/20/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, your right OP, Bad Trips are usually The Negative things rising to the top of your cognitive thinking, During a Trip your mental state is very fragile so your thoughts can Shoot from   Too So yeah that why it is not good to take psyches if your in a bad place in your head or if you have and a mental illness. Set & Setting are everything. Good Post Sheekle!
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: Sheekle] 2
#23364382 - 06/20/16 04:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: I think it's a misconception that bad trips are always caused by some problem within, and that they're often just an anxiety response caused by being too high on drugs.
I definitely understand that bad trips CAN be caused by unwanted introspection, but it's definitely not always the case.
What do tou think?
This misconception comes from psychedelic psychotherapy. When someone trips in a controlled (in a good sense) setting, when everything is good outside, and when you have an introspective set, then a bad trip can be caused only by some inner problems. Even when it's not obvious and looks like being simply too fucked up.
But in our case, it's mostly just bad set&setting (or preparation, or substance purity). And such bad trips don't lead to healing or understanding, they are simply a result of stupidity. You are anxious when you feel lack of support or that you can't express some feelings or i don't know what.
And no, there is no 'too high on drugs'. Anyone can (theoretically) take a huge dose of psych's and have a great time. If you feel bad, there is always a cause. Try to understand it.
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: Sheekle]
#23364520 - 06/20/16 05:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't agree at all. I had a negative experience at Hulaween because of the interpersonal relationship problems i was having at the time with several groups of people, and dealing with the passing of my aunt.
Going into a trip in a bad mindset or environment may make things difficult for people to handle the trip, plain and simple. Going into a trip in an overstimulating environment may also be bad. Furthermore, not taking care of your body like drinking enough fluids, getting enough sleep before hand may also negatively impact the experience.
Take care of your body/mind and don't do these drugs in sketch situations or around people that are sketch. Set and Setting.
PS, you and yogabunny were a few of the more positive experiences at the festival.
also, i'll add that 'bad' trips, more aptly termed 'difficult psychedelic experiences' are what's been recently deemed as some of the more productive experiences a patient can have, I'd look at the recent end-of-life anxiety studies conducted with LSD, really good reads. Even MAPS is saying this.
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: Sheekle]
#23364720 - 06/20/16 06:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have known people that are in a very stable generally happy place in reality that have really bad trips. I've also known people that are very anti-social and anxious that have extremely good trips. I've been sucker punched by a bad trip after having ten good trips in a row without changing the setting, dose or any other variables. Tripping is only a dream. Occasionally you have a nightmare. If a dream is bad just think of it as gibberish rather then take it personally. Psychedelics will spin you round and round trying to pin them down. Once you think you've got it figured out they move the goalpost.
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: kyu]
#23365000 - 06/20/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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kyu said: And no, there is no 'too high on drugs'. Anyone can (theoretically) take a huge dose of psych's and have a great time. If you feel bad, there is always a cause. Try to understand it.
Says who? I'm sure you can theoretically have a great time, but to say that it's impossible to get too high is just silly. If you genuinely believe that, you might as well eat nothing but ten-strips and heroic doses every single time, no?
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Re: Misconception about bad trips [Re: Matai]
#23365066 - 06/20/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats basically what I take every time I trip, and I don't ever have a bad trip
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