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MycoLoopology
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: stareatclouds]
#23419950 - 07/07/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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stareatclouds said: People seem to think that a sub containing some bacteria is the same as a sub with nothing but a bacteria overload throughout 100% of it. I'm pretty sure if the mycelial network recognizes bacteria taking hold, not only will it release metabolites to fight off contamination, but will also speed up the fruiting process to kickstart the next life cycle.
I've had many tubs pump out fruits that were obviously contaminated with something. Shit, the forest is rife with nasties and mushrooms thrive there.
Congrats on the fruits, OP. No need to be a pompous dick though.
honestly i dont think ive EVER had a tub that was 100% bacteria free, but i like to think ive come close.
ime, the bacterial tubs do fine on first flush. its the second and third flush that tend to suffer. and 4th flushes are usually nonexistent if bacterial. just my experience though.
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Mad Season
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23419953 - 07/07/16 11:31 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I don't recall anyone saying your spawn or tub was bacterial. Care to provide a link.
However your result isn't bad. Care to provide a top down shot and perhaps a wet weight and or BE when ya harvest for curious minds?
still waiting
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stareatclouds
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23419962 - 07/07/16 11:35 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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MycoLoopology said: ime, the bacterial tubs do fine on first flush. its the second and third flush that tend to suffer. and 4th flushes are usually nonexistent if bacterial. just my experience though.
Makes sense. By that time the mycelium is getting weaker due to fruiting and whatnot, and the bacteria is still attacking and trying to thrive. I don't really give a shit about it, either it has bac or it doesn't. I just wait for that bright spot of soon-to-be-trich and toss it when I need to.
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HybridprX
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: stareatclouds]
#23420622 - 07/07/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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stareatclouds said: People seem to think that a sub containing some bacteria is the same as a sub with nothing but a bacteria overload throughout 100% of it. I'm pretty sure if the mycelial network recognizes bacteria taking hold, not only will it release metabolites to fight off contamination, but will also speed up the fruiting process to kickstart the next life cycle.
I've had many tubs pump out fruits that were obviously contaminated with something. Shit, the forest is rife with nasties and mushrooms thrive there.
Congrats on the fruits, OP. No need to be a pompous dick though.
I was only being pompous to show every other good cultivator about how they appear while bashing me for giving 10 years of growing exp and advice....RR didn't like it when I argued with him about micropore tape (sfd's are ideal) but it still worked.... a difference in opinion doesn't make anyone a better or worse cultivator....anyone that takes the time to isolate out a culture on agar is OK in my books...here's a pic....just waiting another hour to harvest and a wet weight 
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23420687 - 07/07/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's a good grow. Nicely done. Doesn't prove anything other than you can grow a box of fruits, but still some good porn. Let's all calm down and wait on the wet weight if OP will be kind enough to provide it.
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HybridprX
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23421384 - 07/07/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wet weight is 651.43 ....
Not sure what that breaks down to...
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tripdawg420
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23421386 - 07/07/16 08:12 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: Wet weight is 651.43 ....
Not sure what that breaks down to...
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23421460 - 07/07/16 08:37 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: Wet weight is 651.43 ....
Not sure what that breaks down to...
Well that would dry down to around 65 grams.
For the BE, if you used 6 quarts WBS (straight millet is pretty heavy at 300 grams dry for what you would use as a quarts worth, so I am going to assume WBS would be a bit lighter. Rye and wheat are much lighter than WBS or millet, typically 150-200 grams dry) at around 250 grams dry per quart a brick of verm at 650 grams and 2 quarts verm at 100 grams each, that brings dry material weight to 2350 grams.
Assuming 2350 dry grams substrate and a wet yield of 651.43, your first flush BE is 27.72%. If you used more coir or verm or spawn than that, it will be even lower.
27% BE is pretty low, were a lot of the fruits hollow? The tub must still have a lot of biomass left then. Hopefully you make it up in the next flush.
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tripdawg420
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23421462 - 07/07/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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somes better than none
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: tripdawg420]
#23421466 - 07/07/16 08:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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tripdawg420 said: somes better than none 
I agree.
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HybridprX
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23421502 - 07/07/16 08:54 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's pretty egg head. ..but I love you guys for it.
From my perspective. ...the substrate hardly shrunk....it's still hugging the sides....a dunk will help this on the 2nd flush.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23421510 - 07/07/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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probably doesn't need a dunk, especially if the sides haven't pulled away yet. Lots of water left for another flush.
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HybridprX
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23460336 - 07/20/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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tripdawg420
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23460347 - 07/20/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: Bump


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Pastywhyte
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23460656 - 07/20/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said:

There be the missing BE. Nice haul
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