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HybridprX
Biodegrader of coir



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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: Psilosoulful]
#23386715 - 06/27/16 06:28 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree, muchas gracias senior.
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MycoLoopology
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23386732 - 06/27/16 06:35 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: So I'm in a toss up this morning....should I begin fruiting or give it some more time? I don't like uncolonized patches but I know it will continue to grow some more... to fruit or not to fruit is the question. Pic

i like to wait till its just SLIGHTLY more colonized before i fruit. but personally i like it being less than 100% if using casing layer. more like 85-90% colinzation. where most clusters have formed together but many brown spots still exist is when i fruit.
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HybridprX
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: MycoLoopology]
#23418634 - 07/06/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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[Update ] Well, after completing my week ban I'm back to give some myco porn 
I was told by at least 10 other cultivators that this tub was heavily contaminated with bacteria..

This is proof there is no point in arguing with people on these boards....
I'll be harvesting in the morning
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Pastywhyte
Say hello to my little friend



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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23418670 - 07/06/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't recall anyone saying your spawn or tub was bacterial. Care to provide a link.
However your result isn't bad. Care to provide a top down shot and perhaps a wet weight and or BE when ya harvest for curious minds?
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dankington
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23418677 - 07/06/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I guess you ignored all the parts where we wished you good luck...
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HybridprX
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: dankington]
#23418696 - 07/06/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Lol
No, not at all.
Thank you. It was in another thread where I posted a picture of this tub to reassure the other guy that his tub was OK. .. I'm happy with the results here....I'll get a better shot once the caps are fully open and post a final weight once I get home from work.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23418716 - 07/06/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Frankly just about anyone's spawn is going to have some bacteria in it. To achieve complete sterilization simply isn't possible for the home hobbiest. It's recognising when the populations are elevated that is important, allows one to make good decisions.
I think I recall that thread now, I only posted in it near the end. Its not looking too bad for that guy, he finally has pins. But it's definitely a bacterial tub, the good news is that he might loose some BE but I don't think it will trich out.
Anyways looking forward to the canopy shot.
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Munchauzen


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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23418723 - 07/06/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: [Update ] Well, after completing my week ban I'm back to give some myco porn 
I was told by at least 10 other cultivators that this tub was heavily contaminated with bacteria..

This is proof there is no point in arguing with people on these boards....
I'll be harvesting in the morning 
Bacterial subs have absolutely no problem producing fruits.

You have proved absolutely nothing besides your arrogance.
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wowimflabbergasted
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: Munchauzen]
#23418772 - 07/06/16 10:59 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel like there have been a crap ton of bacterial threads lately...or people just really really worrying about bacteria. Or trying to prove people wrong by producing with their bacterial tubs. Then I've seen Pasty say over 100 times THERE IS BACTERIA IN ALMOST EVERY JAR OF SPAWN Yet, no one listens.
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Pastywhyte
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Yeah I should probably just give up. It's not like my grows are suffering lol.
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wowimflabbergasted
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23418833 - 07/06/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're a saint man...I don't know how you're so patient with people.
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Mad Season
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23418842 - 07/06/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: I don't recall anyone saying your spawn or tub was bacterial. Care to provide a link.
However your result isn't bad. Care to provide a top down shot and perhaps a wet weight and or BE when ya harvest for curious minds?
YES. Please post weight and BE. Although with 6 inches of sub.. BE is going to be shitty.
And here. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23391583#23391583
What a dunce though. Hybrid doesn't read anything despite all these people saying the same thing. Nice work proving what everyone said. Bacterial tubs can produce fruits. They just GENERALLY have a lower yield than what you could have had, assuming they don't go trichy.. Read SBJs post. 4th one down. It states that a bunch of people have had their best tubs from obviously bacterial tubs.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23391910#23391910 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23392311#23392311 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23398233#23398233 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23398508#23398508 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23398707#23398707 https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23398724#23398724
But he proved us wrong! 
Please Hybrid read the posts you ignored the first time that I just linked, then tell me you proved us all wrong. I swear this guy has a disability, which actually would be sad.. Still ridiculous that he thinks he's better, and knows more than 10+ cultivators. Especially when he thinks colonization in the dark is best, and that cubensis has overlay. 20 years of misinformation!
Edited by Mad Season (07/07/16 02:39 AM)
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HybridprX
Biodegrader of coir



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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: Munchauzen]
#23419102 - 07/07/16 03:08 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Munchauzen said:
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HybridprX said: [Update ] Well, after completing my week ban I'm back to give some myco porn 
I was told by at least 10 other cultivators that this tub was heavily contaminated with bacteria..

This is proof there is no point in arguing with people on these boards....
I'll be harvesting in the morning 
Bacterial subs have absolutely no problem producing fruits.

You have proved absolutely nothing besides your arrogance.
I was being a nice person.... the information about bacteria (although informative) also triggers information overload to new cultivators....giving someone fear and paranoia that their tub is screwed is fear mongering.... I don't like when members do that to new guys with a ms grow.
All the information posted is informative but also determental to that guys thread....you even tried to convince me that my tub had bacteria contamination. .... then you post a pic of a jar fruiting alongside a bacteria contaminate which is useful to prove that it can still fruit in the jar with bacteria but it was irrelevant to a bulk substrate on its spawn run.....
If a tub is infected with bacteria then sure....post away about contamination but I knew that his was OK (after I seen it colonize the suspected area) but yet you and others argued with me.
I know all about Archane bacteria being rendered dormant but maintaining a presence in grain jars but like I said....it was irrelevant to that guys question....and it wasn't bacteria issues.
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Mad Season
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23419117 - 07/07/16 03:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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I circled the parts where mycelium is reacting to bacteria. Bacteria in bulk substrates will look much different than grain jars. Grain jars are obvious wet spots. You can see that surrounding the wet spots though is thick mycelium that looks almost like cottage cheese, and even can colonize the bacteria, it will still look so thick and cottage cheese like. As seen here:

In bulk substrates you can't exactly see wet spots. Yes sometimes mycelium won't colonize the spots, and that's how you know, but not most of the time. You have to go off of how the mycelium is reacting (thick and cottage cheese like)
OP of the other thread:

Yours, you have much less bacteria, and actually looks pretty good. But it still has some. Just like most other substrates. As was said earlier by flabber
(missed a spot in the middle right area lol)
Edited by Mad Season (07/07/16 05:17 AM)
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HybridprX
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: Mad Season]
#23419125 - 07/07/16 03:37 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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As of right now...
I also have a 68l Rubbermaid with 7l spawned to one brick of coir.... but I thought posting that would be excessive
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Mad Season
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23419134 - 07/07/16 03:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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These all had a bit of bacteria too.. And they're just 1 pint spawn jars mixed with 1.5 qts of manure per tray. What's your point?
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Inocuole said: Bacterial.... grows....can... produce... fruits.

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wowimflabbergasted
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23419370 - 07/07/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said:

As of right now...
I also have a 68l Rubbermaid with 7l spawned to one brick of coir.... but I thought posting that would be excessive 
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Munchauzen


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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23419409 - 07/07/16 07:32 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: then you post a pic of a jar fruiting alongside a bacteria contaminate which is useful to prove that it can still fruit in the jar with bacteria but it was irrelevant to a bulk substrate on its spawn run.....
Explain, please. Because this makes 0 sense. A bottle is a bulk substrate.
Actually, I've learned to expect nothing but shit from you. I don't really care what you're ridiculous explanation is. You are a terrible cultivator and you are constantly plaguing this forum with misinformation and an extremely poor attitude.
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spacechildo
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23419532 - 07/07/16 08:53 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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HybridprX said: I was being a nice person.... the information about bacteria (although informative) also triggers information overload to new cultivators....giving someone fear and paranoia that their tub is screwed is fear mongering.... I don't like when members do that to new guys with a ms grow.
so you rather tell them there is no bacteria and you make up stuff about overlay instead which will teach noobs to scratch their surface if they find old enough posts? 
that makes no sense dude, we're here to teach and we dont BS people, we tell them what bacteria looks like and that it still can produce, that bacteria is NOT mold etc etc.
wouldn't want anyone to be here for 10 yrs and still dont know how to spot bacteria now, do we?
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stareatclouds
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Re: Burma on w.b.s going to coir (been awhile) [Re: HybridprX]
#23419875 - 07/07/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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People seem to think that a sub containing some bacteria is the same as a sub with nothing but a bacteria overload throughout 100% of it. I'm pretty sure if the mycelial network recognizes bacteria taking hold, not only will it release metabolites to fight off contamination, but will also speed up the fruiting process to kickstart the next life cycle.
I've had many tubs pump out fruits that were obviously contaminated with something. Shit, the forest is rife with nasties and mushrooms thrive there.
Congrats on the fruits, OP. No need to be a pompous dick though.
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