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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: xxBonkRipper420xx]
#23360611 - 06/19/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: I doubt it. Eventually we will probably stumble upon a not so nice life form(s).
Probably not actually. Science heavily weighs against this as a possibility.
If aliens were to exist we'd have discovered them by now, sorry to dash your hopes.
Lol we have not been to every planet. It cant be proved either way. Although evidence shows some lifeforms can survive in space
We don't need to visit their planets to discover them?
Lol if they had the tech to reach us, they would be putting such a large impact on their local systems that we would see that.
that's not true depending on where they might be, our galaxy alone is 100000 light years across, if they're on the other side of the galaxy, they could of been ravaging where they are for the last 90000 years and we wouldn't know for another 10000 when the light from there finally reached us and then we'd still only be seeing the start of it and that's only if we're looking in the right spot at the right time, there's a hundred billion stars in our galaxy alone most of which are assumed to have planets around them and we haven't even come close to mapping them all out and actually looking at them and studying them directly.
If it only took 1 second to look at a star and gather all the information from it including life forms, number of planets, the history of it, shit like that, it would take 33 years just to study only a billion of them, and that's if it took 1 second, there's just too many places to look and we haven't even come close to making a dent in it.
Plus if they were making what would be considered a noticeable impact, it would only be noticeable if we knew what it was like before they were there, and we have no way of doing that or knowing that considering we just started looking out at the universe relatively recently.
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#23360680 - 06/19/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fraid not though, we can observe physics being at a constant in our entire observable universe.
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: xxBonkRipper420xx]
#23360687 - 06/19/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Also if they were on the other side of the universe, they physically cannot reach us.
You missed the part about the universe expanding faster than the speed of light.
We cannot ever even REACH the speed of light, with our current understanding of physics, let alone pass it.
If any aliens, or even ourselves, left their local clusters, space would be expanding faster than they could travel.
You'd be stuck in infinite nothingness, never able to return, and never able to reach your destination
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: TioWWW999]
#23360744 - 06/19/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It depends on how you define "human". The human race is evolving faster than ever and has only been in this forum for a million years or so. With cyborg technology and genetic engineering what it means to be human may change real fast.
Species evolve to fit their environment. Humans as we know them evolved on earth and are suited to the environment of earth. The future species that evolve out of us will be adapted for their environment, be it another planet/moon, a station or deep space.
I can absolutely see the species that evolve out of humans living in space and beyond earth in various capacities.
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: xxBonkRipper420xx]
#23360934 - 06/19/16 01:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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xxBonkRipper420xx said: I guess I've heard more ridiculous things in my life, so you're free to believe what you want.
Can't have science without theories. 
But...maybe, One day, with all our science an stuff, we'll be able to make a speed of imagination machine. I see the sun I'm there. I see an image of the furthest sun known to man, and instantly, I'm there. Go scientists. I've given you the idea for free, get off your arses and make it so.
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23360941 - 06/19/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Yes, we have about a billion years left to evacuate earth, by then, I cannot imagine our society NOT advancing enough to achieve interstellar travel
Due to current trends I dont see humans living much more than another 50,000 years or so, and that might be generous. We are depleting our resources way too fast for such sustainability, and while our technology is advancing to allow some serious space movement, it would take a HUGE, concentrated global effort to figure out which direction we need to go to find the next 'goldilocks zone' planet and how to get there without perishing along the way. Currently we cant get past killing one another, bombing the shit out of ourselves, and our own individual greed to focus on the bigger goal of what comes next after weve scrapped earth for everything shes worth.
At the same time I have hope that we will invent new technologies that harness insane amounts energy from the sun. If we get past our own violent tendencies as a species, I see the potential for prolonged space travel. We are on the verge of mastering our genome, which will help oodles to preserve our race while travelling through space. I could see in the future a MASSIVE project to assemble a space vehicle, in space, because it would be so large and have to be brought up there piece by piece. It would have to be enormous though, enough to hold instruments to fix everything that could fail over the 5,000 year plus journey. And hopefully an advanced human mentality that could withstand 5,000 years without breaking out into war and self destruction. Either that or some kind of smaller vehicle that could preserve the human body in a frozen state until it reaches its star.
I also see it likely that we would just shoot hundreds of millions (or billions) of 'Darts' out into space, towards potential host planets, which contain all the building blocks for life, maybe even human life. And just say this is the best we could do towards getting to another planet, we hope you find it little dart. That could be how we got here for all we know. But I would rather we actually GET somewhere as a species, that would be amazing.
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: ManianFH]
#23360975 - 06/19/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I really doubt we'll make it another 1000 at the rate we're going. Theres too many points of failure that are starting to converge upon us. The combined effects of climate change, depletion of resources and the warmongering of the upper classes is likely going to see us driven to nuclear extinction within a couple hundred years max.
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23361159 - 06/19/16 03:36 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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In my opinion a hundred may be enough considering the speed we're moving
Yet I'm not sure we'll survive a hundred more
Btw, one of the coolest page I've found recently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: Brown Buffalo]
#23361183 - 06/19/16 03:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes but I feel like it'll be cookie cutter,boring and hard to maintain
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: deucedbi9]
#23361193 - 06/19/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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xxBonkRipper420xx said: I guess I've heard more ridiculous things in my life, so you're free to believe what you want.
Can't have science without theories. 
But...maybe, One day, with all our science an stuff, we'll be able to make a speed of imagination machine. I see the sun I'm there. I see an image of the furthest sun known to man, and instantly, I'm there. Go scientists. I've given you the idea for free, get off your arses and make it so.
You should read Stephen King : The Jaunt, short story. Real good. Deals with teleportation.
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: xxBonkRipper420xx]
#23361230 - 06/19/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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We've been killing each other since the dawn of our species, somehow we survived and have even evolved into semi intelligent mofo's. I highly doubt we are just gonna kill Everyone "just because"
And don't even get me started on the global warming hoax
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23361234 - 06/19/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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We also never had any nuclear weapons at our disposal up until now. That changes things.
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23361241 - 06/19/16 04:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: We've been killing each other since the dawn of our species, somehow we survived and have even evolved into semi intelligent mofo's. I highly doubt we are just gonna kill Everyone "just because"
And don't even get me started on the global warming hoax
The first documented wars were in China 600bc over salt
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#23361262 - 06/19/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: We've been killing each other since the dawn of our species, somehow we survived and have even evolved into semi intelligent mofo's. I highly doubt we are just gonna kill Everyone "just because"
And don't even get me started on the global warming hoax
The first documented wars were in China 600bc over salt
Exactly! I guess I have a bit more faith in humanity than most people...
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: xxBonkRipper420xx]
#23361531 - 06/19/16 05:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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xxBonkRipper420xx said: I guess I've heard more ridiculous things in my life, so you're free to believe what you want.
Can't have science without theories. 
But...maybe, One day, with all our science an stuff, we'll be able to make a speed of imagination machine. I see the sun I'm there. I see an image of the furthest sun known to man, and instantly, I'm there. Go scientists. I've given you the idea for free, get off your arses and make it so.
You should read Stephen King : The Jaunt, short story. Real good. Deals with teleportation.
So does this old TV series.
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: deucedbi9]
#23363240 - 06/20/16 09:12 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Huamans are humans. We will never get over the concept of greed. Its sad but true.
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Re: Do you see majority of humans living beyond Earth? [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23363368 - 06/20/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: Huamans are humans. We will never get over the concept of greed. Its sad but true.
Ifs not greedy to seek a better life
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