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DOES GOD EXIST?
#23359697 - 06/19/16 01:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Does got really exist?
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf] 3
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Eminence]
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It's one of those questions that, if answered, self-cancels. In other words, if you think you know, you don't.
Consciousness exists, that we can say. Consciousness is not your body or your mind. Consciousness is utterly formless and when you say "I" you are typically referring to conscious presence, even though you think you are referring to your body. All thoughts, perceptions, sensations, arise in consciousness through the instrumentation of the body. Even your idea of yourself arises in an empty awareness; consciousness. You say "I" have a mind, "I" have a body, "I" am Steve. But "I" is none of those things, it's the background on which they all project. In this way the basis to all experience is consciousness, thus existence is likely a product of consciousness, rather than the opposite. When a thought pulls your attention, who is a thought speaking to? Logically, one could assume that if God were to be hiding anywhere, it is right here, right now, you. In the words of the ancient master Wu Hsin, "the world is not populated by thousands of entities, it is one entity, and it's name is I."
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Tmethyl]
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My personal opinion is no. It is a tired story which has been told throughout the ages. I feel the story was started for the same reason parents tell their kids that santa clause is real. To give them a reason to behave other than "I told you so."
One man's humble opinion.
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do transdimensional super ghost really exist?
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? (moved) [Re: twinleaf] 1
#23360295 - 06/19/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Science and Technology.
Reason: Better suited here -- definitely not a S&T topic.
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf] 1
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It's just a label but, yeah, I really do exist.
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf] 1
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I think religions are stories which are meant to promote positive outlooks on life, or teach lessons to children, or as someone stated above, to offer hope in an often times cruel world.
I have a strong tie to nature, because I can actually see God there. I see lightning in the sky, hear wind in the trees, see wildfires ravage all in its path, and for me this is something I can experience in every way, so I experience God in nature in all God's myriad forms. By observing the natural world, I learn life lessons. Animals storing food teaches me to be prepared for the future/plan ahead, a stream wearing its way through rock teaches me about persistence, fire ravaging the land teaches me that nothing of this world truly lasts so I should not worry about the things of this world that don't truly matter, trees show me that great things can grow from something small and to have a firm foundation, the list goes on and on.
So for me God exists, and God is nature, and God is love.
I say don't waste your time arguing with the existence of something which is not possible for you to prove, this only promotes negativity and division among people, instead see the divine light within each individual, and if you cannot see it within someone, then it's our duty to kindle the divine spark, and pull these individuals out of darkness, and let them see they're of value, they're loved.
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Lucis]
#23361894 - 06/19/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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God is everyone and everything.
Everyone is crazy.
These are the strangest times.
Much love, without condition, my friend!
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf]
#23364440 - 06/20/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The concept of high powers has nothing to do with organized religion people damn.
Obviously if God exists it's probably completely alien to what our major religions deem it to be. Don't let the elementary notions of modern day religion turn you away from a belief in something greater.
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#23364534 - 06/20/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: It's one of those questions that, if answered, self-cancels. In other words, if you think you know, you don't.
Consciousness exists, that we can say. Consciousness is not your body or your mind. Consciousness is utterly formless and when you say "I" you are typically referring to conscious presence, even though you think you are referring to your body. All thoughts, perceptions, sensations, arise in consciousness through the instrumentation of the body. Even your idea of yourself arises in an empty awareness; consciousness. You say "I" have a mind, "I" have a body, "I" am Steve. But "I" is none of those things, it's the background on which they all project. In this way the basis to all experience is consciousness, thus existence is likely a product of consciousness, rather than the opposite. When a thought pulls your attention, who is a thought speaking to? Logically, one could assume that if God were to be hiding anywhere, it is right here, right now, you. In the words of the ancient master Wu Hsin, "the world is not populated by thousands of entities, it is one entity, and it's name is I."

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AuroraBorealis88 said: The concept of high powers has nothing to do with organized religion people damn.
Obviously if God exists it's probably completely alien to what our major religions deem it to be. Don't let the elementary notions of modern day religion turn you away from a belief in something greater.
The thing about religion is that there is the pop culture notion of what a religion says about God and then there is the actual scriptures and writings of saints and theologians which require far more effort to understand than the average person is willing to put forth.
So I would agree that God goes way beyond the pop culture conceptions, but if you actually study religion you will that it already says this. For example, I have read Christian theologians state that God is infinite and incomprehensible or unknowable. Obviously that goes way beyond any pop culture notion of what God is like and leaves room for just about anything.
But the masses of ignorant people need a toned version and then God gets associated with that toned down version and it becomes a straw man for anti religious people to beat up when there is actually much deeper stuff in religion if you care to look for it.
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Peyote Road said: For example, I have read Christian theologians state that God is infinite and incomprehensible or unknowable. Obviously that goes way beyond any pop culture notion of what God is like and leaves room for just about anything.
Yes but look at the other parts of the scripture.....they're soooo humanized and clearly not divinely inspired. I mean it doesn't take much to say a higher power is incomprehensible but a incomprehensible God is not going to create such a religion and such "rules".
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you need to understand the scriptures in context, vs as a direct reveltion from the highest God to the people of today.
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this is a stupid topic that should get deleted. "Does god exist?" WTF? Are you serious, asking such a stupid question? Stuff like this can be intellectualized.
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Well the minimum to be said..is that the conjecture of God..is of course true..and therefore the idea of God is true and valid..but will God show his/her face..to actually prove she/he exists? That would be the final tell indeed...
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God is more real than reality since the very concept of reality was created by God and anything that you can imagine existing, exists because you imagined it.
It is not the truth of God we should ponder, but the virtues we can practice to strip ourselves of our impurities to make a stronger connection with the truth. If we need to ask 'is God real?', this need is case in point.
Those with a deep seated connection with the divine are asking why they need their souls vesselled in physical body which represents the only conundrum.
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Amazing Duncan, thank you.
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"We are imprisoned in some sort of work of art." -McKenna
Edited for accuracy:
"We are imprisoned in some sort of work of art."
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Tmethyl]
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It is definitely a canvas.
And you can paint what you want into it.
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There once was a man who said "damn, it certainly seems that I am, a creature that moves in determinate grooves, I'm not even a bus I'm a tram..."
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Tmethyl]
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Interesting!
You know, the people in psych wards, they are just on a different "notch" of consciousness.
Perhaps they damaged the brain getting there.
But when the brain can't tune into a frequency, you die.
That's all death is, losing the band between BELIEF <-> DISBELIEF, into some other logic.
So there is an order to consciousness.
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Well the Creator was me...doesnt mean that God doesnt exist..but I created God Necessarily..!
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Duncan Rowhl said: Those with a deep seated connection with the divine are asking why they need their souls vesselled in physical body which represents the only conundrum.
There are so many lessons to be learned here, which would be next to impossible to learn as a conscious energy form. Individuality for starters.
This is a a short waveform existance. Burm hard and fast.
There are theories that this was not the plan at all, and coming here was basically cheating. An offer too good to refuse. Often documented in parables like 'the fall of Lucifer' or 'exile from Eden'
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf]
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twinleaf said: Does got really exist?
I guess we will never find that out. There is so many evidence of all sort of creatures proving that Darwin's theory of evolution doesn't exist, but they can make up evidence to prove that it is fact. Here's some artifacts that they has found but is it facts or an hoax.
   http://www.assaultweb.net/Forums/printthread.php?t=162104
http://rense.com/general79/giants.htm
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That evidence looks staged to be honest.
As for God, I can't say for sure. I can't prove there is a thing as much as there isn't one.
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Thanatos10 said: That evidence looks staged to be honest.
As for God, I can't say for sure. I can't prove there is a thing as much as there isn't one.
Everything in this universe is to finely well tune, that it has to been someone that had thought it out very carefully. If it were an accident, then why our sex glands stays in the same place< but not change from one spot to another? Why trees and every other species stays in its own specie? Why our poops is foods for plants but why can it be not food for us? Why plants produces oxygen but we only produces other type of gases that are beneficial to plants? Everything has a purpose in life. Not one thing that is on this earth that doesn't has a purpose. And accident doesn't create eternal life producing effects that goes on forever.

Study ‘Says’ Sniffing Farts Is Good For You, But Something Doesn’t Smell Right http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/23/smelling-farts-healthy_n_5612908.html
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Thanatos10 said: That evidence looks staged to be honest.
As for God, I can't say for sure. I can't prove there is a thing as much as there isn't one.
Everything in this universe is to finely well tune, that it has to been someone that had thought it out very carefully. If it were an accident, then why our sex glands stays in the same place< but not change from one spot to another? Why trees and every other species stays in its own specie? Why our poops is foods for plants but why can it be not food for us? Why plants produces oxygen but we only produces other type of gases that are beneficial to plants? Everything has a purpose in life. Not one thing that is on this earth that doesn't has a purpose. And accident doesn't create eternal life producing effects that goes on forever.

Study ‘Says’ Sniffing Farts Is Good For You, But Something Doesn’t Smell Right http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/23/smelling-farts-healthy_n_5612908.html
None of that is proof of a higher intelligence. It's just a testament to the incredible adaptive power of nature and living things. Just because everything is tuned and works together well doesn't mean there is an intelligence behind it, it just meaning the environment has reached an equilibrium with everything else. Or sex glands stay put because that's what works in terms of evolution, same as everything else. Organisms adapt all the time and the ones that fail then go extinct.
Nothing that you said is proof of a higher intelligence.
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Interesting stuff.
I don't think we're supposed to die.
If we do, go to a certain unfiltered place, probably something like the DMT world.
There are surely infinite dimensions.
They are surely all accessible while in this body. This body, too, is sacred, like the soul, everything is.
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Lucis]
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Tmethyl said: It's one of those questions that, if answered, self-cancels. In other words, if you think you know, you don't.
Consciousness exists, that we can say. Consciousness is not your body or your mind. Consciousness is utterly formless and when you say "I" you are typically referring to conscious presence, even though you think you are referring to your body. All thoughts, perceptions, sensations, arise in consciousness through the instrumentation of the body. Even your idea of yourself arises in an empty awareness; consciousness. You say "I" have a mind, "I" have a body, "I" am Steve. But "I" is none of those things, it's the background on which they all project. In this way the basis to all experience is consciousness, thus existence is likely a product of consciousness, rather than the opposite. When a thought pulls your attention, who is a thought speaking to? Logically, one could assume that if God were to be hiding anywhere, it is right here, right now, you. In the words of the ancient master Wu Hsin, "the world is not populated by thousands of entities, it is one entity, and it's name is I."
Well put brother. 
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Fennario said: I think religions are stories which are meant to promote positive outlooks on life, or teach lessons to children, or as someone stated above, to offer hope in an often times cruel world.
I have a strong tie to nature, because I can actually see God there. I see lightning in the sky, hear wind in the trees, see wildfires ravage all in its path, and for me this is something I can experience in every way, so I experience God in nature in all God's myriad forms. By observing the natural world, I learn life lessons. Animals storing food teaches me to be prepared for the future/plan ahead, a stream wearing its way through rock teaches me about persistence, fire ravaging the land teaches me that nothing of this world truly lasts so I should not worry about the things of this world that don't truly matter, trees show me that great things can grow from something small and to have a firm foundation, the list goes on and on.
So for me God exists, and God is nature, and God is love.
I say don't waste your time arguing with the existence of something which is not possible for you to prove, this only promotes negativity and division among people, instead see the divine light within each individual, and if you cannot see it within someone, then it's our duty to kindle the divine spark, and pull these individuals out of darkness, and let them see they're of value, they're loved.
Here too
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Seems to me that everyones interpretation of what a God is is different. I say God is the thing that guides us through life, so God can be anything. Im my own God, but I will not be your God. If I chose to believe that this toaster is to decide whether or not it burns my toast then its technically my God for the present moment, but im the one in control of the toasters functioning ability so its my fault if its burnt. I guess you could say God is the thing that you blame, whether it be for your creation, or your burdens. We only have ourselvs to blame, for literally everything. I created the universe- does a tree make a sound if it falls and nobody hears it? No, it doesnt, because the existence of an ear is what makes vibrations have sound, and an embodiment is what allows vibrations to be vibrations. So the universe does not exist until we ourselves exist, so, I created the universe. People who believe in a superior being are afraid to be self reliant, its like having a life long father/mother figure to do everything for us. Being self reliant is similar to swimming in an ocean verses being in a boat. The bigger the boat, the safer you are. But if you consider God to be what made us, then youre talking about 2 particles that crashed into each other at light speed billions of years ago, and/or the reptilian aliens that spliced our DNA with their own and humanoid DNA to create mankind- a slave race decieved into believing that life has a purpose. There is no superior being, thats an illusion, we ourselves are no more superior than the grass under our feet or the water that we drink.
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I saw a movie poster for this film that came out not too long ago called "God's not dead". The whole time I'm thinking to myself, why isn't there a movie called "God dies"? Like wouldn't that be a million times more exciting? I would think that the premise of the original movie has to be pretty lame- people just realize in the end that there is a god. But in "God dies", we actually get to see an epic showdown that is the demise of god. I'm thinking at least 6 balrogs or some shit like that.
Just some food for thought.
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Every one has their opinion. I am with Katherine Hepburn, Quote "I am an atheist period". No debate.
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Movies all have an overall hidden message in them, the goverment tells Hollywood what movies to make and what the hidden message is. My theory is that they like to balance things out. God really doesnt ever die, as long as we live God lives and when we die then it doesnt matter anyway. But as much deception theyve thrown in movies with "sorry" and "im so proud", they probably throw in pieces of enlightenment to give everyone an opportunity to find God. They dont care what happens, they just observe the show they put on, and if society wakes up, we prevent new world order, and if we dont unify and revolt then the plans a-go and only those who've found God will be strong enough to leave their families to die and run for the hills come "judgement day".
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Lol atheists should go look in the mirror, thats where we find God. Though everything comes with a price
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I used to get mad about atheists and Darwin worshipers. But from their perspective, there is no spiritual existence. So for their reality it is true, even tho from our perspective it is false.
Info credited to C's / Gnosis:
Organic Portals
Not every host here has a soul. Many are NPCs in the matrix system who's original purpose was to be a bridge from 2D flora/fauna graduation to 3D.
They lack, but can mimic, the 3 higher centres. They are not one race, colour, creed or faction and makeup half the population.
If interested there are many resources available. I think the first collection I read was 'the Ra Material' (Law of One).
It is slightly sanitized, as to be less of a mind fuck, but quite a good read
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf]
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twinleaf said: Does got really exist?
how should I know
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Douglas Howard said:
Everything in this universe is to finely well tune, that it has to been someone that had thought it out very carefully.
Including GMO?
(Nobody wants to talk about all of positive aspects of GMO)
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf]
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twinleaf said: Does GOD really exist?
I frequently like to back up, as in: "why do you care?"
Are you afraid I might think for myself? Are you afraid I might get to do things, that you aren't allowed to do? Are you afraid I might be 'immoral'? Are you afraid you might be wrong? Are you afraid I might be different? Are you aware of your insecurity? Are you aware that 'God' isn't curing your insecurity? Are you aware that "God" won't help you answer these questions? Are you aware that you will have to think for yourself to answer these questions? Can you be aware, that you might have questions of your own, about where your beliefs came from, once you begin to think for yourself? Can you be aware, that that how long will it take to discover that thinking for oneself is more interesting than believing, can only be answered after the experience of real interest begins to develop, after asking oneself challenging questions repeatedly, and finding ones own answers? Never being satisfied with anything superficial?
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"Atheists" can be substituted for "I" above, as in:
Are you afraid 'atheists' might think for themselves?
Are you afraid atheists' might get to do things, that you aren't allowed to do?
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also to make it even more impersonal,'believers' can be substituted for "you" above, as in:
Are 'believers' afraid 'atheists' might think for themselves?
Are 'believers' afraid atheists' might get to do things, that they aren't allowed to do?
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Snazz]
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Only believe what you see. Very scientific and logical approach. There are plenty of scientists that are spiritual though, as every layer you peel back, you find yet another layer. Every rabbit hole leads to 10 more.
Yet there is also a simplistic beauty beyond the insanely complexity. Hard for me to believe that popped out of an entropic system.
The Organic Portal information is channeled, so who really knows the authenticity. Seemed to make some sense in my observations of the world. Who knows lol.
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Enlightenment is not being bothered by what others think.
To abandon our judgments is challenging, as most of us define ourselves by our opinions.
At their core, all opinions are "I'm right and you're wrong.", which is ego.
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Snazz said: Only believe what you see. Very scientific and logical approach. There are plenty of scientists that are spiritual though, as every layer you peel back, you find yet another layer. Every rabbit hole leads to 10 more.
Yet there is also a simplistic beauty beyond the insanely complexity. Hard for me to believe that popped out of an entropic system.
The Organic Portal information is channeled, so who really knows the authenticity. Seemed to make some sense in my observations of the world. Who knows lol.
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Enlightenment is not being bothered by what others think.
To abandon our judgments is challenging, as most of us define ourselves by our opinions.
At their core, all opinions are "I'm right and you're wrong.", which is ego.
A way around this is to imagine we are the only person on earth and embrace the perspective long enough to recognize how people make us act differently than we desire.
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf]
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twinleaf said: Does got really exist?
Depends on what you call "God".
Some people think that "God" has no physical body -- is not made of matter/energy. That "God" doesn't exist.
The real God has a real Body which is made of matter/energy (atoms/molecules).
Entheogens is the real God (Creator).
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf]
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twinleaf said: Does god really exist?
Hes one crazy motherfucker but he's REAL, as real as you and me because (s)he IS you AND me 
Thank you for flying God airlines, next stop is Fear and Doubt, and from there on straight to Heaven! 
He's crazy, a madman and fundamentalist, but he loves all so much, to deat and beyond into all eternity.
Whats there not to love about the God of Al things, if you look beyond death and suffering?
we are SAFE.
IT IS A RIDE.
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf]
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twinleaf said: Does got really exist?
No. Simple as that.
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The definition of God has been misconstrued by those that wish to control the population. We are led to believe that God is a superior being when God is the state of mind achieved through ridding ourselves of ego. Sin has as well been miscontrued, as we are led to believe that sin is doing drugs or sex or using curse words. sin, refers to the 7 deadly sins, greed, pride, wrath, envy,.lust, gluttony, and sloth. When Any of these are present, it is because of an ego. Through God, we forgive, through God, we are eternal, and are the creators of our universe. God is certainly not a theory, as it is real, and it is the only true way. Jesus, has nothing to do with God and he is not to be idolized whether he have lived or is a fictional character. Not all who reach enlightenment embrace God though they might claim to be God. It is not an "I" who is God, because "I" is our ego, and God is a particular state of mind, but we are all capable of achieving God. God is always present in our minds, though in most of us is hidden deeply within and masked by an ego. Heaven and hell are not present after death but are realms of reality in which is created by our reality. If we do not live in heaven, then we live in hell, and accepting sin manifest the ego and prevents the God mind from surfacing, where heaven exists. God is not love and happiness, for love is the fear of loss, and when we laugh it is mockery and we smile because of our pride or an intentional false representation of our self in order to maintain a stable relationship in which we feel the need to depend on someone. through God we are independent, God gives us strength and acceptance. The only true freedom lies in forgiveness
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Who knows, who really cares. I feel like I am my own God, affected and emitting nothing but love and light through my being. Simple human feelings and emotions are just like wind in the sky nowadays, I am guided on my path of life with sheer Love and Passion in my heart, there is no anxiety, there is no stress or judgement upon anything. All my actions are based purely out of Love, Love is the guiding force for all. Confidence? Easy.
I can do ANYTHING I WANT! You can do anything you want, just follow your heart. The only stress you can receive is which can be freed through forgiveness, the true definition of strength is forgiveness, you will find when you forgive, you can love much more.
If "God" is source of high power, than I definitely feel like a God. Especially when I am high. If you can accomplish anything you put your mind to, than whose to say you don't have "Godly" power? You have control as an existant being to create the reality you desire.
If you're not happy with your self, situation or life your just not doing it right.
I dont claim to be enlightened or awakened, whatever you wanna coin it, I just am. To be.
I choose love. Not because it's the "correct" choice, but simply because it's the one constant in this universe. Love is light, love is compassion; love is the fabric of our existence. Hatred & anger shall pass. But you... you are made of love. Negativity is common due to the current mindset of the average individual. Be more than average... because I assure you that love will win, and fear will lose.
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That is a concept we've been programmed to believe, love is the fear of loss an coincides with envy and greed. We cannot claim that God is us until the God mind is achieved through ridding ourself from the 7 sins in order for our self to surface and the egos to desolve. It is not I who is God, but it is us, who is God, for "I" am an ego, and "we" are the universe. God is not love and happiness but strength and acceptance and is only truly embraced when emotion is absent and we become self reliant
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twinleaf said: Does got really exist?
Depends on what you call "God".
Some people think that "God" has no physical body -- is not made of matter/energy. That "God" doesn't exist.
The real God has a real Body which is made of matter/energy (atoms/molecules).
Entheogens is the real God (Creator).
You worship drugs?
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Eminence]
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I don't know if there is anything that can be called god, and frankly I don't think it matters. Maybe it's just a concept we humans have in order to feel better about being alone in the great void of the universe. As of yet there is no definitive proof of reasoning life other than us. Maybe we made it to help cope with our insignificance. It certainly feels better to say "we are the universe" and believe it rather than face the reality. We live, we die. That's likely what will happen until the last human, then who knows.
I find spirituality odd, people seem way to certain of themselves.
I'll gladly go into the void when my time comes.
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Eminence]
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twinleaf said: Does got really exist?
Depends on what you call "God".
Some people think that "God" has no physical body -- is not made of matter/energy. That "God" doesn't exist.
The real God has a real Body which is made of matter/energy (atoms/molecules).
Entheogens is the real God (Creator).
You worship drugs?
It is you who is calling God a "drug".
But now what is there for me here? - it is Yahweh who speaks - now that My people have been carried off for nothing, and their masters shout their triumph - it is Yahweh who speaks - all day long My Name is constantly blasphemed. My people will therefore know My Name, that day they will understand that it is I who say, "I am here." – Isaiah, 52, 5
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Edited by endogenous (07/10/16 12:40 AM)
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Yahweh wasn't a very nice god. Blood sacrifices, petty, vengeful, jealous.
Hippie Jesus (Yeshua) is a far better role model
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The ego game results in no victor. there is only one universal God and it is our true state of being. The God mind. In which emotion is absent, as well as greed, pride, lustc envyc sloth,.gluttony, and wrath. "you", "i/me", "they" "them" "he/him" and "she/her" are only terms used by an ego. we, are one. We are the universe, undivided from all things. one brain of human bodies, one system of galaxies, one universe. Division is the ultimate illusion
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The Bible might sound fictional, but there are some stuff that is in the Book that sound impossible but found to be true. Like how it mentions how old they lived in the early stage of the world. It says that no one has came to the knowledge of Him, and so it means that the knowledge of God has to grow in us in order to acknowledge Him. He is unseen, and it is hard for us to acknowledge something that our five senses cannot detect.
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endogenous said:
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twinleaf said: Does got really exist?
Depends on what you call "God".
Some people think that "God" has no physical body -- is not made of matter/energy. That "God" doesn't exist.
The real God has a real Body which is made of matter/energy (atoms/molecules).
Entheogens is the real God (Creator).
You worship drugs?
It is you who is calling God a "drug".
But now what is there for me here? - it is Yahweh who speaks - now that My people have been carried off for nothing, and their masters shout their triumph - it is Yahweh who speaks - all day long My Name is constantly blasphemed. My people will therefore know My Name, that day they will understand that it is I who say, "I am here." – Isaiah, 52, 5
So basically if you have too much God in your life you become a burn out hippie
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said:
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Eminence said: You worship drugs?
It is you who is calling God a "drug".
But now what is there for me here? - it is Yahweh who speaks - now that My people have been carried off for nothing, and their masters shout their triumph - it is Yahweh who speaks - all day long My Name is constantly blasphemed. My people will therefore know My Name, that day they will understand that it is I who say, "I am here." – Isaiah, 52, 5
So basically if you have too much God in your life you become a burn out hippie
I would put it more like this:
Their prince will be one of their own, Their ruler come from their own people. I will let him come freely into My Presence and he can come close to Me; Who else, indeed, would risk their life By coming close to Me? – it is Yahweh who speaks. And you shall be my people and I will be your God. -- Jeremiah, 30 21
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Eminence]
#23437150 - 07/13/16 07:21 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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So basically if you have too much God in your life you become a burn out hippie
Everyone treats money as a god. They are willing to do anything for it, even if they have to kill for it. It is treated as a very valuable thing that we cannot live without it. That is why Jesus has came, to let us know the truth. Tat we are being deceived into believing that we cannot live without. That is why we need to build up our faith in Him, and so we will be able to have complete trust in Him like we have had trust in our parents, that when we were a child, that we just relaxed while they take care of us. Jesus had made a statement, that our imperfect earthly parents had given us good gift, but just imagine what your heavenly Father that is without mistake can give. All Jesus was trying to bring us all back into His presence (The garden) to really see the truth about what He has to offer.
Matthew 6:28 “And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you—you of little faith?
Psalm 51:11 Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me.
Matthew 23:19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
Edited by Douglas Howard (07/13/16 07:24 AM)
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf]
#23437206 - 07/13/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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In the beginning was the word.
The word and humans are co-existing as God
And when i say the word, i mean "word-catalysts" as well such as the imagination, mushrooms, etc.
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the people thought they could imitate God and they made their own golden calf. God was so pissed he was going to destroy them. That upset Moses and he said the people dont know any better because they are stupid. God also promised he wouldn't kill them anymore. So Moses went down from the mountain again and scolded them. That was when he broke the tablets that had the 10 commandments. I forget what order. Only read it like three times.
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