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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf]
    #23410276 - 07/04/16 12:45 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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twinleaf said:
Does GOD really exist?




I frequently like to back up,
as in:
"why do you care?"

Are you afraid I might think for myself?
Are you afraid I might get to do things,
that you aren't allowed to do?
Are you afraid I might be 'immoral'?
Are you afraid you might be wrong?
Are you afraid I might be different?
Are you aware of your insecurity?
Are you aware that 'God' isn't curing your insecurity?
Are you aware that "God" won't help you answer these questions?
Are you aware that you will have to think for yourself to answer these questions?
Can you be aware, that you might have questions of your own, about where your beliefs came from, once you begin to think for yourself?
Can you be aware, that that how long will it take to discover that thinking for oneself is more interesting than believing, can only be answered after the experience of real interest begins to develop, after asking oneself challenging questions repeatedly, and finding ones own answers? Never being satisfied with anything superficial?

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"Atheists" can be substituted for "I" above, as in:

Are you afraid 'atheists' might think for themselves?

Are you afraid atheists' might get to do things,
that you aren't allowed to do?

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also to make it even more impersonal,'believers' can be substituted for "you" above, as in:

Are 'believers' afraid 'atheists' might think for themselves?

Are 'believers' afraid atheists' might get to do things,
that they aren't allowed to do?

etc.


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Snazz]
    #23418223 - 07/06/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23418271 - 07/06/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Only believe what you see.  Very scientific and logical approach.  There are plenty of scientists that are spiritual though, as every layer you peel back, you find yet another layer. Every rabbit hole leads to 10 more.


Yet there is also a simplistic beauty beyond the insanely complexity. Hard for me to believe that popped out of an entropic system.


The Organic Portal information is channeled, so who really knows the authenticity. Seemed to make some sense in my observations of the world. Who knows lol.


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23418280 - 07/06/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Enlightenment is not being bothered by what others think. 

To abandon our judgments is challenging, as most of us define ourselves by our opinions.

At their core, all opinions are "I'm right and you're wrong.", which is ego.


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23418333 - 07/06/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Snazz said:
Only believe what you see.  Very scientific and logical approach.  There are plenty of scientists that are spiritual though, as every layer you peel back, you find yet another layer. Every rabbit hole leads to 10 more.


Yet there is also a simplistic beauty beyond the insanely complexity. Hard for me to believe that popped out of an entropic system.


The Organic Portal information is channeled, so who really knows the authenticity. Seemed to make some sense in my observations of the world. Who knows lol.




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RJ Tubs 202 said:
Enlightenment is not being bothered by what others think. 

To abandon our judgments is challenging, as most of us define ourselves by our opinions.

At their core, all opinions are "I'm right and you're wrong.", which is ego.




A way around this is to imagine we are the only person on earth and embrace the perspective long enough to recognize how people make us act differently than we desire.


Edited by bigdoodie (07/08/16 10:12 AM)


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf]
    #23425428 - 07/09/16 01:52 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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twinleaf said:
Does got really exist?



Depends on what you call "God".

Some people think that "God" has no physical body -- is not made of matter/energy. That "God" doesn't exist.

The real God has a real Body which is made of matter/energy (atoms/molecules).

Entheogens is the real God (Creator).


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf]
    #23425502 - 07/09/16 02:46 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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twinleaf said:
Does god really exist?








Hes one crazy motherfucker but he's REAL, as real as you and me because (s)he IS you AND me :hug: :heart:

Thank you for flying God airlines, next stop is Fear and Doubt, and from there on straight to Heaven! :eek:

He's crazy, a madman and fundamentalist, but he loves all so much, to deat and beyond into all eternity.





Whats there not to love about the God of Al things, if you look beyond death and suffering?

we are SAFE.

IT IS A RIDE.





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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf]
    #23425514 - 07/09/16 02:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Does got really exist?




No. Simple as that.


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Spiritwithin] * 1
    #23426035 - 07/09/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The definition of God has been misconstrued by those that wish to control the population. We are led to believe that God is a superior being when God is the state of mind achieved through ridding ourselves of ego. Sin has as well been miscontrued, as we are led to believe that sin is doing drugs or sex or using curse words. sin, refers to the 7 deadly sins, greed, pride, wrath, envy,.lust, gluttony, and sloth. When Any of these are present, it is because of an ego. Through God, we forgive, through God, we are eternal, and are the creators of our universe. God is certainly not a theory, as it is real, and it is the only true way. Jesus, has nothing to do with God and he is not to be idolized whether he have lived or is a fictional character. Not all who reach enlightenment embrace God though they might claim to be God. It is not an "I" who is God, because "I" is our ego, and God is a particular state of mind, but we are all capable of achieving God. God is always present in our minds, though in most of us is hidden deeply within and masked by an ego. Heaven and hell are not present after death but are realms of reality in which is created by our reality. If we do not live in heaven, then we live in hell, and accepting sin manifest the ego and prevents the God mind from surfacing, where heaven exists. God is not love and happiness, for love is the fear of loss, and when we laugh it is mockery and we smile because of our pride or an intentional false representation of our self in order to maintain a stable relationship in which we feel the need to depend on someone. through God we are independent, God gives us strength and acceptance. The only true freedom lies in forgiveness


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23426256 - 07/09/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Who knows, who really cares. I feel like I am my own God, affected and emitting nothing but love and light through my being. Simple human feelings and emotions are just like wind in the sky nowadays, I am guided on my path of life with sheer Love and Passion in my heart, there is no anxiety, there is no stress or judgement upon anything. All my actions are based purely out of Love, Love is the guiding force for all. Confidence? Easy.

I can do ANYTHING I WANT! You can do anything you want, just follow your heart. The only stress you can receive is which can be freed through forgiveness, the true definition of strength is forgiveness, you will find when you forgive, you can love much more.

If "God" is source of high power, than I definitely feel like a God. Especially when I am high. :lol: If you can accomplish anything you put your mind to, than whose to say you don't have "Godly" power? You have control as an existant being to create the reality you desire.

If you're not happy with your self, situation or life your just not doing it right.

I dont claim to be enlightened or awakened, whatever you wanna coin it, I just am. To be.

I choose love. Not because it's the "correct" choice, but simply because it's the one constant in this universe. Love is light, love is compassion; love is the fabric of our existence. Hatred & anger shall pass. But you... you are made of love. Negativity is common due to the current mindset of the average individual. Be more than average... because I assure you that love will win, and fear will lose.


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23427173 - 07/09/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

That is a concept we've been programmed to believe, love is the fear of loss an coincides with envy and greed. We cannot claim that God is us until the God mind is achieved through ridding ourself from the 7 sins in order for our self to surface and the egos to desolve. It is not I who is God, but it is us, who is God,  for "I" am an ego, and "we" are the universe. God is not love and happiness but strength and acceptance and is only truly embraced when emotion is absent and we become self reliant


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: endogenous]
    #23427216 - 07/09/16 05:21 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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endogenous said:
Quote:

twinleaf said:
Does got really exist?



Depends on what you call "God".

Some people think that "God" has no physical body -- is not made of matter/energy. That "God" doesn't exist.

The real God has a real Body which is made of matter/energy (atoms/molecules).

Entheogens is the real God (Creator).




You worship drugs?


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Eminence]
    #23427806 - 07/09/16 09:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know if there is anything that can be called god, and frankly I don't think it matters. Maybe it's just a concept we humans have in order to feel better about being alone in the great void of the universe. As of yet there is no definitive proof of reasoning life other than us. Maybe we made it to help cope with our insignificance. It certainly feels better to say "we are the universe" and believe it rather than face the reality. We live, we die. That's likely what will happen until the last human, then who knows.

I find spirituality odd, people seem way to certain of themselves.

I'll gladly go into the void when my time comes.


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Eminence]
    #23428134 - 07/10/16 12:39 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Eminence said:
Quote:

endogenous said:
Quote:

twinleaf said:
Does got really exist?



Depends on what you call "God".

Some people think that "God" has no physical body -- is not made of matter/energy. That "God" doesn't exist.

The real God has a real Body which is made of matter/energy (atoms/molecules).

Entheogens is the real God (Creator).




You worship drugs?



It is you who is calling God a "drug".

But now what is there for me here? - it is Yahweh who speaks - now that My people have been carried off for nothing, and their masters shout their triumph - it is Yahweh who speaks - all day long My Name is constantly blasphemed. My people will therefore know My Name, that day they will understand that it is I who say, "I am here." – Isaiah, 52, 5


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: endogenous]
    #23428991 - 07/10/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yahweh wasn't a very nice god.  Blood sacrifices, petty, vengeful, jealous.


Hippie Jesus (Yeshua) is a far better role model


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: endogenous]
    #23429053 - 07/10/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The ego game results in no victor.
there is only one universal God and it is our true state of being. The God mind. In which emotion is absent, as well as greed, pride, lustc envyc sloth,.gluttony, and wrath.
"you", "i/me", "they" "them" "he/him" and "she/her" are only terms used by an ego. we, are one. We are the universe, undivided from all things. one brain of human bodies, one system of galaxies, one universe. Division is the ultimate illusion


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: bigdoodie]
    #23429092 - 07/10/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: sprinkles]
    #23434797 - 07/12/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

The Bible might sound fictional, but there are some stuff that is in the Book that sound impossible but found to be true. Like how it mentions how old they lived in the early stage of the world. It says that no one has came to the knowledge of Him, and so it means that the knowledge of God has to grow in us in order to acknowledge Him. He is unseen, and it is hard for us to acknowledge something that our five senses cannot detect.







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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: endogenous]
    #23435199 - 07/12/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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endogenous said:
Quote:

Eminence said:
Quote:

endogenous said:
Quote:

twinleaf said:
Does got really exist?



Depends on what you call "God".

Some people think that "God" has no physical body -- is not made of matter/energy. That "God" doesn't exist.

The real God has a real Body which is made of matter/energy (atoms/molecules).

Entheogens is the real God (Creator).




You worship drugs?



It is you who is calling God a "drug".

But now what is there for me here? - it is Yahweh who speaks - now that My people have been carried off for nothing, and their masters shout their triumph - it is Yahweh who speaks - all day long My Name is constantly blasphemed. My people will therefore know My Name, that day they will understand that it is I who say, "I am here." – Isaiah, 52, 5




So basically if you have too much God in your life you become a burn out hippie


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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Eminence]
    #23436744 - 07/13/16 01:02 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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Eminence said:
Quote:

endogenous said:
Quote:

Eminence said:
You worship drugs?



It is you who is calling God a "drug".

But now what is there for me here? - it is Yahweh who speaks - now that My people have been carried off for nothing, and their masters shout their triumph - it is Yahweh who speaks - all day long My Name is constantly blasphemed. My people will therefore know My Name, that day they will understand that it is I who say, "I am here." – Isaiah, 52, 5




So basically if you have too much God in your life you become a burn out hippie



I would put it more like this:

Their prince will be one of their own,
Their ruler come from their own people.
I will let him come freely into My Presence and he can come close to Me;
Who else, indeed, would risk their life
By coming close to Me?
– it is Yahweh who speaks.
And you shall be my people and I will be your God.
-- Jeremiah, 30 21


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