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twinleaf
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DOES GOD EXIST?
#23359697 - 06/19/16 01:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Does got really exist?
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf] 3
#23359701 - 06/19/16 01:40 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Eminence]
#23359732 - 06/19/16 02:08 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's one of those questions that, if answered, self-cancels. In other words, if you think you know, you don't.
Consciousness exists, that we can say. Consciousness is not your body or your mind. Consciousness is utterly formless and when you say "I" you are typically referring to conscious presence, even though you think you are referring to your body. All thoughts, perceptions, sensations, arise in consciousness through the instrumentation of the body. Even your idea of yourself arises in an empty awareness; consciousness. You say "I" have a mind, "I" have a body, "I" am Steve. But "I" is none of those things, it's the background on which they all project. In this way the basis to all experience is consciousness, thus existence is likely a product of consciousness, rather than the opposite. When a thought pulls your attention, who is a thought speaking to? Logically, one could assume that if God were to be hiding anywhere, it is right here, right now, you. In the words of the ancient master Wu Hsin, "the world is not populated by thousands of entities, it is one entity, and it's name is I."
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Tmethyl]
#23359749 - 06/19/16 02:22 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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My personal opinion is no. It is a tired story which has been told throughout the ages. I feel the story was started for the same reason parents tell their kids that santa clause is real. To give them a reason to behave other than "I told you so."
One man's humble opinion.
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do transdimensional super ghost really exist?
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? (moved) [Re: twinleaf] 1
#23360295 - 06/19/16 09:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Science and Technology.
Reason: Better suited here -- definitely not a S&T topic.
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf] 1
#23360315 - 06/19/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's just a label but, yeah, I really do exist.
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf] 1
#23360632 - 06/19/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think religions are stories which are meant to promote positive outlooks on life, or teach lessons to children, or as someone stated above, to offer hope in an often times cruel world.
I have a strong tie to nature, because I can actually see God there. I see lightning in the sky, hear wind in the trees, see wildfires ravage all in its path, and for me this is something I can experience in every way, so I experience God in nature in all God's myriad forms. By observing the natural world, I learn life lessons. Animals storing food teaches me to be prepared for the future/plan ahead, a stream wearing its way through rock teaches me about persistence, fire ravaging the land teaches me that nothing of this world truly lasts so I should not worry about the things of this world that don't truly matter, trees show me that great things can grow from something small and to have a firm foundation, the list goes on and on.
So for me God exists, and God is nature, and God is love.
I say don't waste your time arguing with the existence of something which is not possible for you to prove, this only promotes negativity and division among people, instead see the divine light within each individual, and if you cannot see it within someone, then it's our duty to kindle the divine spark, and pull these individuals out of darkness, and let them see they're of value, they're loved.
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Lucis]
#23361894 - 06/19/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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God is everyone and everything.
Everyone is crazy.
These are the strangest times.
Much love, without condition, my friend!
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: twinleaf]
#23364440 - 06/20/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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The concept of high powers has nothing to do with organized religion people damn.
Obviously if God exists it's probably completely alien to what our major religions deem it to be. Don't let the elementary notions of modern day religion turn you away from a belief in something greater.
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Re: DOES GOD EXIST? [Re: Tmethyl] 1
#23364534 - 06/20/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: It's one of those questions that, if answered, self-cancels. In other words, if you think you know, you don't.
Consciousness exists, that we can say. Consciousness is not your body or your mind. Consciousness is utterly formless and when you say "I" you are typically referring to conscious presence, even though you think you are referring to your body. All thoughts, perceptions, sensations, arise in consciousness through the instrumentation of the body. Even your idea of yourself arises in an empty awareness; consciousness. You say "I" have a mind, "I" have a body, "I" am Steve. But "I" is none of those things, it's the background on which they all project. In this way the basis to all experience is consciousness, thus existence is likely a product of consciousness, rather than the opposite. When a thought pulls your attention, who is a thought speaking to? Logically, one could assume that if God were to be hiding anywhere, it is right here, right now, you. In the words of the ancient master Wu Hsin, "the world is not populated by thousands of entities, it is one entity, and it's name is I."

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Quote:
AuroraBorealis88 said: The concept of high powers has nothing to do with organized religion people damn.
Obviously if God exists it's probably completely alien to what our major religions deem it to be. Don't let the elementary notions of modern day religion turn you away from a belief in something greater.
The thing about religion is that there is the pop culture notion of what a religion says about God and then there is the actual scriptures and writings of saints and theologians which require far more effort to understand than the average person is willing to put forth.
So I would agree that God goes way beyond the pop culture conceptions, but if you actually study religion you will that it already says this. For example, I have read Christian theologians state that God is infinite and incomprehensible or unknowable. Obviously that goes way beyond any pop culture notion of what God is like and leaves room for just about anything.
But the masses of ignorant people need a toned version and then God gets associated with that toned down version and it becomes a straw man for anti religious people to beat up when there is actually much deeper stuff in religion if you care to look for it.
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Peyote Road said: For example, I have read Christian theologians state that God is infinite and incomprehensible or unknowable. Obviously that goes way beyond any pop culture notion of what God is like and leaves room for just about anything.
Yes but look at the other parts of the scripture.....they're soooo humanized and clearly not divinely inspired. I mean it doesn't take much to say a higher power is incomprehensible but a incomprehensible God is not going to create such a religion and such "rules".
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you need to understand the scriptures in context, vs as a direct reveltion from the highest God to the people of today.
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Yes
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this is a stupid topic that should get deleted. "Does god exist?" WTF? Are you serious, asking such a stupid question? Stuff like this can be intellectualized.
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Well the minimum to be said..is that the conjecture of God..is of course true..and therefore the idea of God is true and valid..but will God show his/her face..to actually prove she/he exists? That would be the final tell indeed...
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God is more real than reality since the very concept of reality was created by God and anything that you can imagine existing, exists because you imagined it.
It is not the truth of God we should ponder, but the virtues we can practice to strip ourselves of our impurities to make a stronger connection with the truth. If we need to ask 'is God real?', this need is case in point.
Those with a deep seated connection with the divine are asking why they need their souls vesselled in physical body which represents the only conundrum.
Edited by Duncan Rowhl (06/21/16 09:28 PM)
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Amazing Duncan, thank you.
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"We are imprisoned in some sort of work of art." -McKenna
Edited for accuracy:
"We are imprisoned in some sort of work of art."
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