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My alba mother plant is being invaded
#23358417 - 06/18/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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By some kind of insect that bores into the core and lats larvae that eat the center of the stem, causing everything above it to die
How do even combat this?
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: 404]
#23358448 - 06/18/16 03:43 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Systemic insecticide. But you really need to identify the pest - seen any flies hovering about near your plant?
Edited by Spanishfly (06/18/16 03:45 PM)
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: Spanishfly]
#23358453 - 06/18/16 03:47 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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roger that, hadn't even heard of that till now!
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: 404]
#23360686 - 06/19/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Wow man. I have no idea what these bugs are but they've really fucked my alba mother up. The damage is extensive, and i can tell it's all over because there is new growth at the bottom where the auxins have shifted as a result of the bugs. 
They are black and have like two sections, with white larvae.
This is horrible.
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: 404]
#23360694 - 06/19/16 12:11 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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White larvae - could be fungus gnats - horrible little things.
Or maybe a whole load of others - just don´t know.
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: Spanishfly]
#23360697 - 06/19/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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they are not fungus gnats i don't think? do fungus gnats eat the center of the plant? these look like tiny beetles. I'm hella upset
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: 404]
#23360716 - 06/19/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have seen the larvae of fungus gnats eat all the way through a Mammillaria at soil level. When I picked up the plant the top part just rolled off. But there could be lots of other candidates.
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: Spanishfly]
#23361094 - 06/19/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think they are related to bark beetles, if they aren't bark beetles as it is. they bore into the core, lay eggs, and feed off the xylem.
fungus gnats feed of the micro organisms in the soil, and i've dealt with those.
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: 404]
#23365637 - 06/21/16 02:15 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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They're not fungus gnats and you shouldn't use a systemic insectide on any plant you plan on consuming/smoking or ingesting otherwise. Systemic insecticides are for ornamental plants and not food crops, they leave residuals in the plant and are not good for humans.
I'd find out what they are first and then try and find some treatments online that don't use harsh chemicals. If it is beetles a simple ring of Vaseline/sticky traps(something similar) painted thickly around the pots circumfrence will trap them as they advance up the pot towards the rim. That's just a quick thought, I'm sure you could find a better treatment locally online. If you can get pictures of the insect I may be able to id it.
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: karode13]
#23365657 - 06/21/16 02:30 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I mean absolutely no offense, but that is why I am posting in here. I can save my cloned plant OK, but I guess i have to do something systemic about this massive infestation.
I will try to get some more pictures.... thank you karode
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: 404]
#23365666 - 06/21/16 02:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sorry if you took what I wrote in the first paragraph was directed to you. It wasn't, just my thoughts in general on people recommending systemics for plants that get ingested or grown for that purpose.
Inspect the plant and manually kill all the insects you see. This will limit the damage until you draw up a better plan of attack. I had an infestation of Garden Weevils Two Summers ago. No sprays or potions would fix it either. I had no choice but to go out Three times a night and manually kill them with my bare fingers. I'd kill over 100 per night the first week. The next week the numbers dropped and the third there was only single figures. If I hadn't been proactive then I would of lost a vast collection to them.
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: karode13]
#23365672 - 06/21/16 02:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was saying thank you because I was about to go use it on a lot of my plants. I should know better, i know how to grow plants really well but when it comes to pests, i'm clueless if i can't kill it with oils.
I'm going to get those pics, and do some preventative work on the other pot. I have no idea where these assholes came from but they are tiny, black, dual sections, and kinda look like beetles. I don't know how else to describe them, but laying larvae, they must be some kind of beetle. they don't seem to fly.
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: karode13] 1
#23365685 - 06/21/16 02:57 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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It may be necessary to make cuttings of every healthy branch you get and burn the rest. That is a way in which you break the cycle of re-infestation. However, if it is a generalist bug it may still be able to survive and complete its life cycle in other plant/shrub species and that would make it necessary to target the adults. In any case, you must know what you are dealing with before choosing the best course of action.
I don't think they are bark beetles; we have a moth species (Zeuzera pyrina) whose larvae live inside branches and attack a lot of tree species. Check your local agricultural information center, show them a branch and a larva, they'll know what it is and what to do.
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: karode13]
#23365745 - 06/21/16 04:12 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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karode13 said: Sorry if you took what I wrote in the first paragraph was directed to you. It wasn't, just my thoughts in general on people recommending systemics for plants that get ingested or grown for that purpose.
Obviously directed at me then. My mistake, but I am a cactus person - wouldn´t know what an alba is or what you use it for.
But the OP just said he wanted to kill bugs - didn´t say he wanted to eat the thing LOL LOL. Or do you smoke it???
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: Spanishfly]
#23365752 - 06/21/16 04:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I tried googling "agricultural information center" and got minimal results. Is there something more solid i can seravh for? is what i'm looking for a government building? there's the local department of agriculture somewhere in my city
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Re: My alba mother plant is being invaded [Re: 404]
#23365778 - 06/21/16 04:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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404 said: I tried googling "agricultural information center" and got minimal results. Is there something more solid i can seravh for? is what i'm looking for a government building? there's the local department of agriculture somewhere in my city
That must be it. Try finding an email address and send them the pictures (I don't know if Psychotria is legal in you country/state, you may wish to withhold that info is case it's not). Another possible source is pesticide dealers/makers. A possible weapon against beetles and moths is BT-toxin based products, they are harmless to anything but the targeted groups of insects.
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