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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: Eminence]
    #23361249 - 06/19/16 04:11 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Eminence said:
Im curious, why is it always coming down to Christianity vs Islam? Jews are hardly ever mentioned. Not a response to anyone in particular.



Zionism is such a huge threat.  +1


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: TheMovement]
    #23361258 - 06/19/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

fair enough


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23361260 - 06/19/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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There is no moderate Islam, there is only those who wage jihad and those who support those who wage jihad.

Why do you think Muslims never condemn terror attacks?:shrug:



Lol, you clearly don't have any Muslim friends. There are plenty of second and third generation Muslims in the Americas and Europe who don't identify at all with the backward-ass bullshit that is going on in the Middle East.

Having said that, I think moderate religion involves a special kind of cognitive dissonance that actually is actually more extreme than what's present in fundamentalist religion. Fundamentalists read their religious texts, believe what they say, develop their ideologies around them and shun conflicting ideologies, and put the principles set forth in the text into practice. As archaic as these ideologies and principles may seem to as, at the very least there is a consistency to the mindset of a fundamentalist.

Religious moderates are the product of the Enlightenment, the age of reason, the industrial revolution, and the scientific worldview. They are not "Baffled and Awestruck by the Mystery" of the world, as people were in the bronze and iron ages, because they grew up in a society wherein the mysteries had largely been demystified by experts. They cling to the idea that their religion offers something not available elsewhere.

A defining characteristic of religious moderation is the individual variability of that something. Most fundamentalists belonging to the same religion will give you pretty specific and consistent answers- crazy as they may be- about what their religion has to offer, but a survey of moderates will give you a range of different answers, many of which seem obtainable without the religion. Despite this, they maintain that there is something exclusive about belonging to the religion that makes it possible for them do whatever they do. The principal problem that arises out of this is that credit does not go where credit is due. For example, a moderate American Muslim may give credit to Allah for his success in obtaining an MD, becoming a doctor, becoming wealthy, and maintaining a safe and healthy family unit, when the credit should actually go to capitalism, the American government for allowing him to emigrate, the field of medicine, and the executive branch for making it possible to raise a family relatively free from danger.


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: morrowasted]
    #23361270 - 06/19/16 04:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I wonder how many of people who think all of them are evil have actually talked to a muslim from the middle east.


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: morrowasted]
    #23361274 - 06/19/16 04:23 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I just finished reading the article. I dont know if anyone else did but near the end it divulges the real motive behind the attacks. Which was her whistle blowing on group of men running a black market in the temple. This wasnt so much about religion as it was about protecting their sales of viagra and condoms. Theres a lot of dumbass's in this thread stretching it out to be some religious crusade when it isnt.


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23361280 - 06/19/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You "all muslims are terrorists" are the kind that wouldn't talk to someone because there's rumors that their family eats babies. So you probably wouldn't talk to someone from the middle east if you had the chance either.


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23361283 - 06/19/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
I wonder how many of you people have actually talked to a muslim from the middle east.



I've been to Turkey and Egypt which are close enough both majority muslim countries


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23361287 - 06/19/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I wonder how many of you people have actually talked to a muslim from the middle east.



I live in Houston, Texas. .5% of the population immigrated here from the Middle East/North Africa, that's the 8th highest density in the USA. I have talked with quite a few of them, and all of the ones I've spoken with are overjoyed to have left the archaism of their homeland for the land of opportunity. They nevertheless have an influence on the ideological constitution of the American public.


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: morrowasted] * 4
    #23361313 - 06/19/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

ISIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM!!!! I BET YOUS NEVER SPOKE TO A JIHADIST IN THE MIDDLE EAST SO GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU BIGOTS I WOULD SHOOT YOUR DAD IN THE MOUTH!! YOUR DISGUSTING FUCK YOU!!!





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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: TioWWW999]
    #23361319 - 06/19/16 04:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Chill out Goebbel.


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: TioWWW999]
    #23361363 - 06/19/16 04:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I wonder how many of you people have actually talked to a muslim from the middle east.



I've been to Turkey and Egypt which are close enough both majority muslim countries



Care to share your experiences?


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: musiclover420]
    #23361373 - 06/19/16 05:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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How many Muslim's have killed anyone people here know? What's that? None?

Now I wonder how many innocent people have died in our carpet bombing of the middle east, or from our "war on terror..."



Not nearly enough!


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #23361389 - 06/19/16 05:09 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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CookieCrumbs said:
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CookieCrumbs said:
I wonder how many of you people have actually talked to a muslim from the middle east.



I've been to Turkey and Egypt which are close enough both majority muslim countries



Care to share your experiences?



Egypt the only thing to do was the pyramids and thats it. By far Egypt had the most unfriendliest people out of everywhere I've been which is very common when you speak to other people who has been there (r/travel seems to shit on it alot). Turkey it was fun except I wouldn't go now soon there's been some recent suicide bombings targeting at tourists in Istanbul which I went to. Same for Egypt like that hotel shooting this year but I wouldn't go back anyways


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: Bobabouy]
    #23361408 - 06/19/16 05:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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How many Muslim's have killed anyone people here know? What's that? None?

Now I wonder how many innocent people have died in our carpet bombing of the middle east, or from our "war on terror..."



Not nearly enough!




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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: xxBonkRipper420xx]
    #23361613 - 06/19/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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No actually, I'm well aware of the fact that christianity is historically one of, if not the number one most violent force to ever exist on this planet.



Not even close.


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: lowbrow]
    #23361791 - 06/19/16 07:44 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I would give it to tobacco.

Kills 6 million people per year on average. So over the last 10 years, 60 million people - that should take the record in and of itself.


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: JustForToday]
    #23361846 - 06/19/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

That's scary...when I watch things like this, I feel a sense of familiarity - as if I've experienced what it is I'm watching.

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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: shadyy]
    #23361886 - 06/19/16 08:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: Love_spirit]
    #23362759 - 06/20/16 03:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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The koran explicitly states that you should be stoned to death for sleeping with other men.



So does the Bible.

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If you're  a Muslim you cannot pick and choose from the book what you will believe and what not. The whole basis for the religion is that the book contains the word of god and going against the word of god would make you an unbeliever. As it stands I cannot have anything but hate for what they believe. I will change my mind when they renounce and remove large sections koran dealing with causing harm to others.



That is wrong. There are many Muslims  who do not go along with that, just as Christians and Jews don't go along with the Bible.


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: Plain]
    #23362881 - 06/20/16 05:29 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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What i dont get is why people hate us this much?

Why do people would hate us?



Been bombing the fuck outta their countries since the 70s. It's generational to see Westerners as oppressors now. Well, basically because we are.


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