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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: koods]
#23369708 - 06/22/16 11:36 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Why am I talking about Christians? Because OP said "And the gay blames fucking Christians for everything. Christians are the majority of the fucking US, and yet muslims are committing terror attack against gays. They need to be stopped before this goes any further. Maybe the same gays who condemn christians can go live somewhere under sharia where they gotta fear for their life."
Gay people should stop complaining about christians writing anti-gay discrimination into law because Muslims are worse. As long as gay people are being executed in Islamic countries, we can't complain that Christians succeeded in making it illegal to include us in public accommodation laws. This is the premise of what OP said.
I've seen a concerted effort in right wing media to use the Orlando shooting as tool to shut down any criticism of the anti-gay Christian agenda. Look at this thread. It has become politically incorrect to complain about chrisitan anti-gay bias,
Most Americans don't even practice Christianity anymore, the small minority that do practice don't even have a "anti-gay" agenda.
There is a significant minority of politically active Evangelicals and Mormons and Catholics that actively push anti-gay and anti-abortion legislation across the country. D
What does abortion have to do with being gay?
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
#23369719 - 06/22/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Why am I talking about Christians? Because OP said "And the gay blames fucking Christians for everything. Christians are the majority of the fucking US, and yet muslims are committing terror attack against gays. They need to be stopped before this goes any further. Maybe the same gays who condemn christians can go live somewhere under sharia where they gotta fear for their life."
Gay people should stop complaining about christians writing anti-gay discrimination into law because Muslims are worse. As long as gay people are being executed in Islamic countries, we can't complain that Christians succeeded in making it illegal to include us in public accommodation laws. This is the premise of what OP said.
I've seen a concerted effort in right wing media to use the Orlando shooting as tool to shut down any criticism of the anti-gay Christian agenda. Look at this thread. It has become politically incorrect to complain about chrisitan anti-gay bias,
Most Americans don't even practice Christianity anymore, the small minority that do practice don't even have a "anti-gay" agenda.
There is a significant minority of politically active Evangelicals and Mormons and Catholics that actively push anti-gay and anti-abortion legislation across the country. D
What does abortion have to do with being gay?
I know more irrelevance. Next we should blame cars for 9/11 because they transported the terrorists to the planes
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: hostileuniverse]
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koods said: Why am I talking about Christians? Because OP said "And the gay blames fucking Christians for everything. Christians are the majority of the fucking US, and yet muslims are committing terror attack against gays. They need to be stopped before this goes any further. Maybe the same gays who condemn christians can go live somewhere under sharia where they gotta fear for their life."
Gay people should stop complaining about christians writing anti-gay discrimination into law because Muslims are worse. As long as gay people are being executed in Islamic countries, we can't complain that Christians succeeded in making it illegal to include us in public accommodation laws. This is the premise of what OP said.
I've seen a concerted effort in right wing media to use the Orlando shooting as tool to shut down any criticism of the anti-gay Christian agenda. Look at this thread. It has become politically incorrect to complain about chrisitan anti-gay bias,
Most Americans don't even practice Christianity anymore, the small minority that do practice don't even have a "anti-gay" agenda.
There is a significant minority of politically active Evangelicals and Mormons and Catholics that actively push anti-gay and anti-abortion legislation across the country. D
What does abortion have to do with being gay?
they are the two issues Christians make a big deal about
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: koods] 1
#23369780 - 06/22/16 12:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Most Christians don't give a fuck about gays or abortion, the fact that homosexual marriage and abortion are legal speaks volumes.
Being gay and getting abortions has been in vogue for decades in the US.
Hell, transsexuals are now mainstream in the US, the large majority really don't care about it.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: koods]
#23369791 - 06/22/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why am I talking about Christians? Because OP said "And the gay blames fucking Christians for everything. Christians are the majority of the fucking US, and yet muslims are committing terror attack against gays. They need to be stopped before this goes any further. Maybe the same gays who condemn christians can go live somewhere under sharia where they gotta fear for their life."
Gay people should stop complaining about christians writing anti-gay discrimination into law because Muslims are worse. As long as gay people are being executed in Islamic countries, we can't complain that Christians succeeded in making it illegal to include us in public accommodation laws. This is the premise of what OP said.
I've seen a concerted effort in right wing media to use the Orlando shooting as tool to shut down any criticism of the anti-gay Christian agenda. Look at this thread. It has become politically incorrect to complain about chrisitan anti-gay bias,
Most Americans don't even practice Christianity anymore, the small minority that do practice don't even have a "anti-gay" agenda.
There is a significant minority of politically active Evangelicals and Mormons and Catholics that actively push anti-gay and anti-abortion legislation across the country. D
What does abortion have to do with being gay?
they are the two issues Christians make a big deal about
Is that why Catholics, the biggest opponents of abortion, overwhelmingly support democrats?
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: qman]
#23369793 - 06/22/16 12:06 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's a bunch of bs. In my state abortion rights have been actively curtailed and continue to be curtailed until it is all but impossible to get one.
Lgbt rights are also being curtailed
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
#23369800 - 06/22/16 12:10 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lgbt rights are also being curtailed
So the same people who oppose baking cakes for gays also oppose abortion, is this the connection?
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23369816 - 06/22/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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ohcrapitsnico said: That's a bunch of bs. In my state abortion rights have been actively curtailed and continue to be curtailed until it is all but impossible to get one.
Lgbt rights are also being curtailed
Mississippi is a little shithole, hardly a representation of the US as a whole.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: hostileuniverse]
#23369819 - 06/22/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lgbt rights are also being curtailed
So the same people who oppose baking cakes for gays also oppose abortion, is this the connection?
It's the same party passing these laws.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
#23369830 - 06/22/16 12:20 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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ohcrapitsnico said: That's a bunch of bs. In my state abortion rights have been actively curtailed and continue to be curtailed until it is all but impossible to get one.
Lgbt rights are also being curtailed
So the same people who oppose baking cakes for gays also oppose abortion, is this the connection?
It's the same party passing these laws. 
True enough, though I'm sure the gay crowd is ecstatic about having their tragedy highjacked by the abortion lobby
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
#23369835 - 06/22/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Lgbt rights are also being curtailed
You used Mississippi as an example? Shit man, give me a break.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: lowbrow]
#23369851 - 06/22/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Fags, women, and trannies have it way worse in muslim countries, unequivocally. But they shouldn't lower their standards because of that, rather the west should be the example for the rest of the world. The problem is the shrill rhetoric calling christians bigots but not muslims. They're going about it all retarded and regressive.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: qman] 3
#23369872 - 06/22/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hell, transsexuals are now mainstream in the US, the large majority really don't care about it.
I agree with the rest of your statement but even as an atheist I still think transsexualism is not right and definitely should not be normalized. The suicide rates among post op transsexuals should be proof enough that it's a mental illness. That and the fact that little girls shouldn't have to share bathrooms with grown ass men who think they're women.
Not very contributive to the topic I guess but I thought I'd throw that out there anyway
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: lowbrow] 1
#23369967 - 06/22/16 01:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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You used Mississippi as an example? Shit man, give me a break.
Why not? It's a perfect demonstration of what happens when you let religious conservatives run things for decades.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: ohcrapitsnico] 1
#23369978 - 06/22/16 01:29 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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ohcrapitsnico said: Fags, women, and trannies have it way worse in muslim countries, unequivocally. But they shouldn't lower their standards because of that, rather the west should be the example for the rest of the world. The problem is the shrill rhetoric calling christians bigots but not muslims. They're going about it all retarded and regressive.
Yeah, I agree with that. The problem with political correctness is that they are unwilling to call out other minority groups for their horrible behavior, therefore Muslims can attack gays and get away with it, it's truly a deranged movement.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: koods] 1
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specialpeopleclub said: Europe isn't a country. It doesn't have autonomy. Jews have councels too. They aren't legal, but when you are part of a community, there is pressure.
So, some people who choose to be Christian choose to disown this kids. That's sad, but we need laws. I should have every right tomdiscriminate. Why should I be forced into discomfort for you? Forced to make diversity hires, forcd not to exclude groups from a club. So,not a Muslem walks into a bar I own, I have to sell to him or lie about why I want to have him leave? If a gay person walks in, I must serve them? Discrimination, hate crimes, theyndomattack make sense. Stupid laws.
You sound like a radical Muslim.
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specialpeopleclub said: Europe isn't a country. It doesn't have autonomy. Jews have councels too. They aren't legal, but when you are part of a community, there is pressure.
So, some people who choose to be Christian choose to disown this kids. That's sad, but we need laws. I should have every right tomdiscriminate. Why should I be forced into discomfort for you? Forced to make diversity hires, forcd not to exclude groups from a club. So,not a Muslem walks into a bar I own, I have to sell to him or lie about why I want to have him leave? If a gay person walks in, I must serve them? Discrimination, hate crimes, theyndomattack make sense. Stupid laws.
and herein lies the problem. As long as people think like this, there will be unrest.
See, discrimination has been made into a bad word, like hate. I'll explain
Hate is fine. Some people deserve to be hated, some things deserve to be hated. The Nazis deserve it, Muslem deserve it, people who pullmothers into cults, etc. There is no shortage of reasons to hate individuals, or groups, though not every individual in a group.
I'd like to start by saying, therenaremethnocally exclusive clubs, just not European ones. None anymore for my color, because we did some bad things briefly and recently. Now, when we get together, if wemexcluse others, we get in legal trouble.
I'll ask, should I be forced at the threat of financial ruin and the public humiliation not being a 'raciest' because I said my establishment is for people like me? You think there are separate churches for blacks because we force them?
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A gay Muslem is a moron, first off. You quit being Muslem and supress what you want, as Allah specifically makes those who are depraved and unreachable so, somthey can't be saved. Itsmin the book, but, you know, the Bible says bad things too. That must mean it means nothing.
The problem is, you bring up Muslem you get three responses-
Raciest
What about Christians?
Not all Muslims
Do you see the problem and how every response makes liberals loook like pathetic morons.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
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But the law goes much further than that, opponents say. One the most grievous passages of the legislation, they say, grants government clerks the right to refuse to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
“Here we’re talking about public employees, who can potentially use religion as a means of denying somebody else their civil rights,” said Rob Hill, the state director of the Human Rights Campaign in Mississippi.
Legal experts have noted that such refusals would additionally pose a stigmatizing effect on same-sex couples that is forbidden by the Constitution. Ms. Rho, of the A.C.L.U., said assertions by some politicians that the law would cause no harmful consequences to gay and transgender people "couldn’t be further from the truth.”
“It’s difficult for me to understand how they think this is narrowly tailored given the breadth of the populations that are affected,” she said. “I suppose if you’re a heterosexual married couple, you’re fine?”
Mr. Wildmon and other supporters of the law have depicted a country whose religious convictions are under siege. The outcry over measures in North Carolina and Mississippi, the argument goes, is the result of a cultural insurgency of pro-L.G.B.T. forces that have taken over big business, Hollywood and the news media.
This is fucked up because it may bleed into other states. I don't want to ever go to MS again, haven't been there in years. Lived in Gulfport MS from Nov.2001 until March of 2005 and moved just before Katrina hit, best move I ever made in my life. The coke was phenomenal though! They are still incredibly racist and bigoted down there. Saw a shit show when this black kid was camped on the beach to protest the rebel flag flying on the beach. The triple K was out there and a lot of folks of color. If you took a B/W photo of it with no cars one wouldn't know if it was 2002 or 1950.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: specialpeopleclub]
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specialpeopleclub said: Europe isn't a country. It doesn't have autonomy. Jews have councels too. They aren't legal, but when you are part of a community, there is pressure.
So, some people who choose to be Christian choose to disown this kids. That's sad, but we need laws. I should have every right tomdiscriminate. Why should I be forced into discomfort for you? Forced to make diversity hires, forcd not to exclude groups from a club. So,not a Muslem walks into a bar I own, I have to sell to him or lie about why I want to have him leave? If a gay person walks in, I must serve them? Discrimination, hate crimes, theyndomattack make sense. Stupid laws.
You sound like a radical Muslim.
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specialpeopleclub said: Europe isn't a country. It doesn't have autonomy. Jews have councels too. They aren't legal, but when you are part of a community, there is pressure.
So, some people who choose to be Christian choose to disown this kids. That's sad, but we need laws. I should have every right tomdiscriminate. Why should I be forced into discomfort for you? Forced to make diversity hires, forcd not to exclude groups from a club. So,not a Muslem walks into a bar I own, I have to sell to him or lie about why I want to have him leave? If a gay person walks in, I must serve them? Discrimination, hate crimes, theyndomattack make sense. Stupid laws.
and herein lies the problem. As long as people think like this, there will be unrest.
See, discrimination has been made into a bad word, like hate. I'll explain
Hate is fine. Some people deserve to be hated, some things deserve to be hated. The Nazis deserve it, Muslem deserve it, people who pullmothers into cults, etc. There is no shortage of reasons to hate individuals, or groups, though not every individual in a group.
I'd like to start by saying, therenaremethnocally exclusive clubs, just not European ones. None anymore for my color, because we did some bad things briefly and recently. Now, when we get together, if wemexcluse others, we get in legal trouble.
I'll ask, should I be forced at the threat of financial ruin and the public humiliation not being a 'raciest' because I said my establishment is for people like me? You think there are separate churches for blacks because we force them?
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koods said: I never said Islam was great for LGBT rights. I don't get your point. We all acknowledge that Islam is the worst idea ever created by mankind. Just because Christianity isn't as bad doesn't mean they get a pass on their anti-gay activities, as the OP suggested. If you want to help gay Muslims, we can't do very much except allow them to immigrate to the west... Of course, you don't want that.
A gay Muslem is a moron, first off. You quit being Muslem and supress what you want, as Allah specifically makes those who are depraved and unreachable so, somthey can't be saved. Itsmin the book, but, you know, the Bible says bad things too. That must mean it means nothing.
The problem is, you bring up Muslem you get three responses-
Raciest
What about Christians?
Not all Muslims
Do you see the problem and how every response makes liberals loook like pathetic morons.
LOL!! Like I said it's like talking about 9/11 and blaming cars for more crashes. He also didn't have a clue about the Israel-Palestine conflict and thought Israel were attacking them under their gods name lol wut. I've been to to Israel, Tel Aviv and it's been known for how open the people are to gays unlike Palestine you'll get killed in public. Not only that but you don't see jewish parents teaching their kids to kill muslims but Palestinians muslim parents have made their kids into suicide bombers and blow themselves up because of it which has happened before and let's dont forget about the child soildiers in Hama's. I don't get it with Koods logic. He failed miserably comparing them though talking about how jews think muslims badly when muslims are the ones making their own childrens into suicide bombers not really caring about their kids
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: TioWWW999]
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TioWWW999 said: What would you rather do get refused by a christian to bake a cake or getting shot by muslims?
Not exactly relevant to your response.... but I read that they FISHED around the country calling HUNDREDS of bakeries until they found ONE that said "no thanks" so they could blow it all over the media.
Heard from other bakeries that got the exact same phone call from them and said SURE! They had to FISH to find that ONE bakery that would say no. And they didn't say no fuck you gay asshole.. they just said ehh.. no thanks that's not really our thing. That's kind of sad when you think about it. All to push some agenda. Like oh great,, you found one christian bakery in the country that wouldn't bake a cake for you.. it's WAR ON GAYS!!!!! I bet you $1,000 if I called around a couple hundreds bakeries I could get one to refuse to make a cake for me for being white... or straight.. or male.. or whateverthefuck.. who gives a fuck.
I believe it was Milo who first discovered that and brought it to light actually.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: Shroomism]
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I'd hate Christians, all of them, if they could just kill a few thousand people once in my lifetime for Jesus, like Books are Haram. Its gross being on the Republican side on this. I shouldn't have to throw off being liberal because here, my compassion was so imperfect I couldn't focus on the part that doesn't matter, and accept this group and give them good faith above what would be called sensible
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