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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: Eminence]
#23368941 - 06/22/16 02:46 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Haha you're still goin. No shit, it's because Muslims are a small minority here right now, they know they can't really do shit, in Europe they have enough numbers to create their own little sharia law areas. We all realize Christians are the majority in the US. You keep pretending Christians are worse only because there's a higher population where you live, that would change if more keep moving here, but in general Muslims are worse. In Muslim countries there's no need to try to pass laws dealing with religious intolerance because everyone over there is already on board with being intolerant towards gay. This isn't about which religion is worse in America, it's about how Islam is bad in general. God damn this thread is repetitive, it's nothing but people showing how Islam is bad, and then you whining that some Christians call you names or don't want you to get married in some poor attempt to compare them and say Christians are worse. You got some kinda islamaphobia-phobia goin on or something?
Go to Bradford or Birmingham in England I'm not even joking muslims everywhere it's almost half of the cities population it's crazy and not only that but 51% of british muslims want homosexuality illegal and I already spoke to some of them when I was in college and I remember a group of muslims who were talking about how gays are like animals according to them. Of course we would be called racist if we said "your views on gays is wrong"
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: koods]
#23368943 - 06/22/16 02:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: It isn't Muslims who are trying to pass laws that protect religious intolerance towards gay people. It's Christians. Christians are behind the invalidation of protection for gays in North Carolina. It is Christians who have legalized the demonization of transsexuals
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/read-this-gay-mans-letter-to-the-family-who-disowned-him-and-his-dads-hate-filled-reply/#gs.RXE3bmI
You still keep going on? I could get worst stories than that like how a father killed his 4 daughters because of Islam and a lot more. Go live in a muslim dominated area actually forget that come over to Bradford and tell every muslim at a nearby mosque that your gay and see how they feel again 51% of British muslims want homosexuality illegal
Your logic
Christianity= 1 Christian refuse to bake a cake for a gay couples wedding= EVIL WORST THAN THE HOLOCAUST!
Islam= Muslims shoot up a gay club with over 50 dead= Islam tolerate gays and womens rights though ande christians are worst! *Doesn't care about the people getting executed in public for homosexuality and adultery in front of a cheering crowd under Islamics culture but complains how a christian refuses to bake a cake for a gay couples wedding
Just to start off with a muslim shot up a gay night club which turned out to be the worst shooting in U.S history but you still blame christians even though they not the ones that shot up the place.
That's like me talking about 9/11 and I come in to blame cars instead because more people crash in cars than in planes LOL that's actually your logic now
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: Eminence] 2
#23368972 - 06/22/16 03:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Haha you're still goin. No shit, it's because Muslims are a small minority here right now, they know they can't really do shit, in Europe they have enough numbers to create their own little sharia law areas. We all realize Christians are the majority in the US. You keep pretending Christians are worse only because there's a higher population where you live, that would change if more keep moving here, but in general Muslims are worse. In Muslim countries there's no need to try to pass laws dealing with religious intolerance because everyone over there is already on board with being intolerant towards gay. This isn't about which religion is worse in America, it's about how Islam is bad in general. God damn this thread is repetitive, it's nothing but people showing how Islam is bad, and then you whining that some Christians call you names or don't want you to get married in some poor attempt to compare them and say Christians are worse. You got some kinda islamaphobia-phobia goin on or something?
I've known plenty of muslims and never got homophobic vibes from them. one of the first persons I ever came out to was muslim.
I guess I don't really understand what the point is in demanding everyone acknowledge islam is a threat. we all get it. do you want to put muslims in concentration camps? sterilize them?
We don't have a lot of radical Islamist in the United States compared to Europe because American muslims are well integrated. this is not the case in Europe. seems like this rhetoric and demagoguery is counterproductive. Its playing right into ISISs strategy to foment animosity towards muslims in the west and breed radicalism.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: Eminence]
#23368980 - 06/22/16 03:35 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Eminence said: I think that was meant to differentiate between God and Jesus though. God was the one that killed people and condoned some bad shit, Jesus was basically a saint though.
That may be true but it doesn't change the fact that people have been murdered in his name...
Like someone else said its the extremists that are the problem and they are not isolated to Islam
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: koods]
#23368984 - 06/22/16 03:37 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: do you want to put muslims in concentration camps? sterilize them?
Your the only one that's thinking of that idea. Also just because they "look muslim" doesn't mean they truly read the qu'ran and follow every word. That's why you have lots of radicals and then there's ISIS and Boko haram/Western Education Forbidden
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: TioWWW999]
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koods said: It isn't Muslims who are trying to pass laws that protect religious intolerance towards gay people. It's Christians. Christians are behind the invalidation of protection for gays in North Carolina. It is Christians who have legalized the demonization of transsexuals
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/read-this-gay-mans-letter-to-the-family-who-disowned-him-and-his-dads-hate-filled-reply/#gs.RXE3bmI
You still keep going on? I could get worst stories than that like how a father killed his 4 daughters because of Islam and a lot more. Go live in a muslim dominated area actually forget that come over to Bradford and tell every muslim at a nearby mosque that your gay and see how they feel again 51% of British muslims want homosexuality illegal
Your logic
Christianity= 1 Christian refuse to bake a cake for a gay couples wedding= EVIL WORST THAN THE HOLOCAUST!
Islam= Muslims shoot up a gay club with over 50 dead= Islam tolerate gays and womens rights though ande christians are worst! *Doesn't care about the people getting executed in public for homosexuality and adultery in front of a cheering crowd under Islamics culture but complains how a christian refuses to bake a cake for a gay couples wedding
Just to start off with a muslim shot up a gay night club which turned out to be the worst shooting in U.S history but you still blame christians even though they not the ones that shot up the place.
That's like me talking about 9/11 and I come in to blame cars instead because more people crash in cars than in planes LOL that's actually your logic now
Im not blaming Christians for the pulse shooting. what my problem is is that Christians are seizing upon this opportunity to do exactly what you are doing - making it very difficult to criticize the actions of Christians. All of a sudden even talking about things like bathroom laws or religious exemptions being written into law is countered with us being told we need to worry about muslims.
frankly, you don't live in the US so you really have no clue how Christians push their agenda here.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: koods]
#23369001 - 06/22/16 04:00 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: It isn't Muslims who are trying to pass laws that protect religious intolerance towards gay people. It's Christians. Christians are behind the invalidation of protection for gays in North Carolina. It is Christians who have legalized the demonization of transsexuals
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/read-this-gay-mans-letter-to-the-family-who-disowned-him-and-his-dads-hate-filled-reply/#gs.RXE3bmI
You still keep going on? I could get worst stories than that like how a father killed his 4 daughters because of Islam and a lot more. Go live in a muslim dominated area actually forget that come over to Bradford and tell every muslim at a nearby mosque that your gay and see how they feel again 51% of British muslims want homosexuality illegal
Your logic
Christianity= 1 Christian refuse to bake a cake for a gay couples wedding= EVIL WORST THAN THE HOLOCAUST!
Islam= Muslims shoot up a gay club with over 50 dead= Islam tolerate gays and womens rights though ande christians are worst! *Doesn't care about the people getting executed in public for homosexuality and adultery in front of a cheering crowd under Islamics culture but complains how a christian refuses to bake a cake for a gay couples wedding
Just to start off with a muslim shot up a gay night club which turned out to be the worst shooting in U.S history but you still blame christians even though they not the ones that shot up the place.
That's like me talking about 9/11 and I come in to blame cars instead because more people crash in cars than in planes LOL that's actually your logic now
Im not blaming Christians for the pulse shooting. what my problem is is that Christians are seizing upon this opportunity to do exactly what you are doing - making it very difficult to criticize the actions of Christians. All of a sudden even talking about things like bathroom laws or religious exemptions being written into law is countered with us being told we need to worry about muslims.
frankly, you don't live in the US so you really have no clue how Christians push their agenda here.
I've been to America multiple times I even have family in Texas where everyone loves jesus and guns there and they say racism and homophobia is nowhere near as bad as it used to be. Compare today to 1950s or do you want to live those times now? I speak to Americans everyday might not be in real life but at least I've met them before and I ask multiple things about their culture. I might not live there but let's say I know more than a lot of people who live in Europe. Just to start off with some Americans don't even know what 4th of july is and thinks california is a different country just shows even the people living there have no clue about their country yet I could name the capital for all 50 states by heart which you probably can't and a lot of other americans. The thing is we're talking about Islam yet your bringing in Christianity when there are not the ones that are stopping western education,shooting up nightclubs,replace islam with western culture and flying planes into towers but knowing you you'll probably say Christians planned out 9/11. 1 chritian refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding is somehow worst than 9/11 to some peoples minds
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: TioWWW999]
#23369043 - 06/22/16 04:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why am I talking about Christians? Because OP said "And the gay blames fucking Christians for everything. Christians are the majority of the fucking US, and yet muslims are committing terror attack against gays. They need to be stopped before this goes any further. Maybe the same gays who condemn christians can go live somewhere under sharia where they gotta fear for their life."
Gay people should stop complaining about christians writing anti-gay discrimination into law because Muslims are worse. As long as gay people are being executed in Islamic countries, we can't complain that Christians succeeded in making it illegal to include us in public accommodation laws. This is the premise of what OP said.
I've seen a concerted effort in right wing media to use the Orlando shooting as tool to shut down any criticism of the anti-gay Christian agenda. Look at this thread. It has become politically incorrect to complain about chrisitan anti-gay bias,
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: koods]
#23369088 - 06/22/16 05:39 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Christians are anti gay, yet they practice "hate the sin, love the sinner" yet they still kick their children out of their home for being gay, it's tragic and terrible, but America has made great strides in accommodating the gays
Now, this Orlando shooters father found out he was gay and now the speculation is he demanded he shoot up the gay night club to be accepted by Islam and Allah,
I still fail to see the comparison between how gays are treated in Islam and how Christians treat them, I'd rather be homeless than dead, but that's just me...
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: Eminence]
#23369187 - 06/22/16 06:56 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Haha you're still goin. No shit, it's because Muslims are a small minority here right now, they know they can't really do shit, in Europe they have enough numbers to create their own little sharia law areas. We all realize Christians are the majority in the US. You keep pretending Christians are worse only because there's a higher population where you live, that would change if more keep moving here, but in general Muslims are worse. In Muslim countries there's no need to try to pass laws dealing with religious intolerance because everyone over there is already on board with being intolerant towards gay. This isn't about which religion is worse in America, it's about how Islam is bad in general. God damn this thread is repetitive, it's nothing but people showing how Islam is bad, and then you whining that some Christians call you names or don't want you to get married in some poor attempt to compare them and say Christians are worse. You got some kinda islamaphobia-phobia goin on or something?
The author of this thread said gays should shut up and stop complaining about Christians or go live in an Islamic country. I didn't start it. I responded to what OP said and nearly every response has been essentially the same - gays shouldn't be worried about Christians we should be worried about Muslims. we can worry about both, but we aren't going to be told to give the Christian Right a pass simply because Muslims hate us even more.
I don't know why Europe would allow sharia law inside their own borders. That's their own damn fault. That's not going to happen here and anyone that says it is fear mongering.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: hostileuniverse] 1
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hostileuniverse said: Christians are anti gay, yet they practice "hate the sin, love the sinner" yet they still kick their children out of their home for being gay, it's tragic and terrible, but America has made great strides in accommodating the gays
Now, this Orlando shooters father found out he was gay and now the speculation is he demanded he shoot up the gay night club to be accepted by Islam and Allah,
I still fail to see the comparison between how gays are treated in Islam and how Christians treat them, I'd rather be homeless than dead, but that's just me...
Of course you would rather be homeless than dead. But OP wants us to stop blaming his religion for tens of thousands of homeless gay kids because 50 gay people were killed by a Muslim.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: koods]
#23369211 - 06/22/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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hostileuniverse said: Christians are anti gay, yet they practice "hate the sin, love the sinner" yet they still kick their children out of their home for being gay, it's tragic and terrible, but America has made great strides in accommodating the gays
Now, this Orlando shooters father found out he was gay and now the speculation is he demanded he shoot up the gay night club to be accepted by Islam and Allah,
I still fail to see the comparison between how gays are treated in Islam and how Christians treat them, I'd rather be homeless than dead, but that's just me...
Of course you would rather be homeless than dead. But OP wants us to stop blaming his religion for tens of thousands of homeless gay kids because 50 gay people were killed by a Muslim.
Tens of thousands Homeless gay kids? Have you never heard of social services and foster carers? God you make me laugh at this. I guess you didn't put much thought of gay kids getting executed or Palestinians forcing their kids to blow themselves up to kill jews in Israel which is still being practiced but to you refusing to bake a cake to a gay wedding is worst than that. What would you rather do get refused by a christian to bake a cake or getting shot by muslims?
Christians North America= All Accepts gays South America(very religious)= All Accepts gays Europe= All Accepts gays Muslim Middle East= All Oppose Africa= Mostly Oppose Indonesia and Malaysia the only 2 muslim countries in East Asia= Both oppose
Also I notice you always keep ignoring this map still think Islam is great for LGBT and womens rights?


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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: koods]
#23369286 - 06/22/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Europe isn't a country. It doesn't have autonomy. Jews have councels too. They aren't legal, but when you are part of a community, there is pressure.
So, some people who choose to be Christian choose to disown this kids. That's sad, but we need laws. I should have every right tomdiscriminate. Why should I be forced into discomfort for you? Forced to make diversity hires, forcd not to exclude groups from a club. So,not a Muslem walks into a bar I own, I have to sell to him or lie about why I want to have him leave? If a gay person walks in, I must serve them? Discrimination, hate crimes, theyndomattack make sense. Stupid laws.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: koods]
#23369366 - 06/22/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Why am I talking about Christians? Because OP said "And the gay blames fucking Christians for everything. Christians are the majority of the fucking US, and yet muslims are committing terror attack against gays. They need to be stopped before this goes any further. Maybe the same gays who condemn christians can go live somewhere under sharia where they gotta fear for their life."
Gay people should stop complaining about christians writing anti-gay discrimination into law because Muslims are worse. As long as gay people are being executed in Islamic countries, we can't complain that Christians succeeded in making it illegal to include us in public accommodation laws. This is the premise of what OP said.
I've seen a concerted effort in right wing media to use the Orlando shooting as tool to shut down any criticism of the anti-gay Christian agenda. Look at this thread. It has become politically incorrect to complain about chrisitan anti-gay bias,
Most Americans don't even practice Christianity anymore, the small minority that do practice don't even have a "anti-gay" agenda.
It's been completely acceptable to be gay in the US, nobody even gives a shit.
"has become politically incorrect to complain about Christian anti-gay bias"
Hmm, it's a bunch of non-religious people trying to point out your hypocrisy when it comes to Muslims and their views on homosexuality. I wouldn't call that protecting some sort of "Christian anti-gay bias".
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: qman]
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koods said: Why am I talking about Christians? Because OP said "And the gay blames fucking Christians for everything. Christians are the majority of the fucking US, and yet muslims are committing terror attack against gays. They need to be stopped before this goes any further. Maybe the same gays who condemn christians can go live somewhere under sharia where they gotta fear for their life."
Gay people should stop complaining about christians writing anti-gay discrimination into law because Muslims are worse. As long as gay people are being executed in Islamic countries, we can't complain that Christians succeeded in making it illegal to include us in public accommodation laws. This is the premise of what OP said.
I've seen a concerted effort in right wing media to use the Orlando shooting as tool to shut down any criticism of the anti-gay Christian agenda. Look at this thread. It has become politically incorrect to complain about chrisitan anti-gay bias,
Most Americans don't even practice Christianity anymore, the small minority that do practice don't even have a "anti-gay" agenda.
There is a significant minority of politically active Evangelicals and Mormons and Catholics that actively push anti-gay and anti-abortion legislation across the country. D
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: TioWWW999]
#23369478 - 06/22/16 09:48 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I never said Islam was great for LGBT rights. I don't get your point. We all acknowledge that Islam is the worst idea ever created by mankind. Just because Christianity isn't as bad doesn't mean they get a pass on their anti-gay activities, as the OP suggested. If you want to help gay Muslims, we can't do very much except allow them to immigrate to the west... Of course, you don't want that.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: specialpeopleclub]
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specialpeopleclub said: Europe isn't a country. It doesn't have autonomy. Jews have councels too. They aren't legal, but when you are part of a community, there is pressure.
So, some people who choose to be Christian choose to disown this kids. That's sad, but we need laws. I should have every right tomdiscriminate. Why should I be forced into discomfort for you? Forced to make diversity hires, forcd not to exclude groups from a club. So,not a Muslem walks into a bar I own, I have to sell to him or lie about why I want to have him leave? If a gay person walks in, I must serve them? Discrimination, hate crimes, theyndomattack make sense. Stupid laws.
and herein lies the problem. As long as people think like this, there will be unrest.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: koods]
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88% of Muslims believe homosexuality is immoral. There are a large number of Christians that believe it is a sin but nowhere near the percentage that believe it is immoral.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: specialpeopleclub]
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specialpeopleclub said: Europe isn't a country. It doesn't have autonomy. Jews have councels too. They aren't legal, but when you are part of a community, there is pressure.
So, some people who choose to be Christian choose to disown this kids. That's sad, but we need laws. I should have every right tomdiscriminate. Why should I be forced into discomfort for you? Forced to make diversity hires, forcd not to exclude groups from a club. So,not a Muslem walks into a bar I own, I have to sell to him or lie about why I want to have him leave? If a gay person walks in, I must serve them? Discrimination, hate crimes, theyndomattack make sense. Stupid laws.
You sound like a radical Muslim.
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Re: This video and article should squash anyone who has any doubt left in their mind about Islam [Re: Love_spirit]
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Love_spirit said: 88% of Muslims believe homosexuality is immoral. There are a large number of Christians that believe it is a sin but nowhere near the percentage that believe it is immoral.

sin and immoral are synonymous......the definition of sin even uses the word immoral to describe it's meaning.
"sin1 sin/ noun 1. an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law."
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