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Need urgent help- very anxious
    #23358264 - 06/18/16 02:39 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I'm very anxious. I have developed a problem with my sight. Everything I look at seems to vibrate slightly, similar to when I'm tripping.

I have not used mushrooms in a bit over 2 months. The problem with my sight started after taking the antidepressant effexor. I'm scared that this will be permanent and that I'll be stuck in a 'trip' forever. I started experimenting with mushrooms as a way to cure my depression and OCD (all other treatments had failed). I also wanted to use them to get over a trauma. They seemed to help but I'm worried I overdid them (I used them 8 times or so in total, sometimes only a week or even a few days apart), then I took a long break of 4 months and I've been 'clean' for 2 months now.

Just prior to developing problem with sight I used kratom and kanna, but didnt feel much effect. I just hope I didn't cause myself irreversible damage. I know I sometimes don't realize that I continue doing things that are bad for me (because of my autism related black and white thinking)

I feel suicidal, it's very hard living with autism and now I feel like I just destroyed my life. I have made many other mistakes in my life that affected my mental health in a bad way (I visited prostitutes for years, I lost a lot of money with forex etc.). I did those things because I thought they would help me, but they just made my life worse. I know this may sound stupid, but I think sometimes I'm just not aware of the consequences of my actions.

I want to change and become a more responsible/better person, I just hope I can get rid of this visual problem. I'm scared I developed HPPD, but I'm not sure. I never had disturbing enduring visuals after a trip, maybe slight after effects but they  never really bothered me. This visual problem started after taking effexor or maybe the kratom/kanna. I stopped the effexor 2 days ago, but no reduction in symtoms yet. Please can someone reassure me? I'm scared I'll have to kill myself to stop the suffering.

(sorry for poor English, it's not my first language)


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: happyshroomer123] * 2
    #23358277 - 06/18/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

woah woah woah there brother. You can't just 'stop' effexor. SERIOUSLY. You HAVE to titrate properly. You're gonna get intense issues if you just stop.

Understand this before we go any further please.


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23358283 - 06/18/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I already stopped it 2 days ago :frown:. I had only taken it for 4 days though. What should I do know? I'm so scared this'll be the end for me. I intend on telling my family I love them before it's too late to say goodbye. I'm terrified but I know it's all my fault, even though I only wanted to help myself.

Still hope I can do something to cure myself


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #23358290 - 06/18/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

(my dose of effexor was 37.5 mg, the starting dose)


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #23358299 - 06/18/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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happyshroomer123 said:
I already stopped it 2 days ago :frown:. I had only taken it for 4 days though. What should I do know? I'm so scared this'll be the end for me. I intend on telling my family I love them before it's too late to say goodbye. I'm terrified but I know it's all my fault, even though I only wanted to help myself.

Still hope I can do something to cure myself




Sounds like you're having a panic attack man. It's very, very unlikely you permanently damaged yourself with a few days of effexor use. You need to call your prescribing physician and tell him/her what you just told us. The shroomery is not a good substitute for real medical advice.


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #23358303 - 06/18/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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happyshroomer123 said:
I'm very anxious. I have developed a problem with my sight. Everything I look at seems to vibrate slightly, similar to when I'm tripping.

I have not used mushrooms in a bit over 2 months. The problem with my sight started after taking the antidepressant effexor. I'm scared that this will be permanent and that I'll be stuck in a 'trip' forever. I started experimenting with mushrooms as a way to cure my depression and OCD (all other treatments had failed). I also wanted to use them to get over a trauma. They seemed to help but I'm worried I overdid them (I used them 8 times or so in total, sometimes only a week or even a few days apart), then I took a long break of 4 months and I've been 'clean' for 2 months now.

Just prior to developing problem with sight I used kratom and kanna, but didnt feel much effect. I just hope I didn't cause myself irreversible damage. I know I sometimes don't realize that I continue doing things that are bad for me (because of my autism related black and white thinking)

I feel suicidal, it's very hard living with autism and now I feel like I just destroyed my life. I have made many other mistakes in my life that affected my mental health in a bad way (I visited prostitutes for years, I lost a lot of money with forex etc.). I did those things because I thought they would help me, but they just made my life worse. I know this may sound stupid, but I think sometimes I'm just not aware of the consequences of my actions.

I want to change and become a more responsible/better person, I just hope I can get rid of this visual problem. I'm scared I developed HPPD, but I'm not sure. I never had disturbing enduring visuals after a trip, maybe slight after effects but they  never really bothered me. This visual problem started after taking effexor or maybe the kratom/kanna. I stopped the effexor 2 days ago, but no reduction in symtoms yet. Please can someone reassure me? I'm scared I'll have to kill myself to stop the suffering.

(sorry for poor English, it's not my first language)





My advice. Get a weed whacker. No kidding. You'll love your life.


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: falsereality]
    #23358315 - 06/18/16 02:53 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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happyshroomer123 said:
I already stopped it 2 days ago :frown:. I had only taken it for 4 days though. What should I do know? I'm so scared this'll be the end for me. I intend on telling my family I love them before it's too late to say goodbye. I'm terrified but I know it's all my fault, even though I only wanted to help myself.

Still hope I can do something to cure myself




Sounds like you're having a panic attack man. It's very, very unlikely you permanently damaged yourself with a few days of effexor use. You need to call your prescribing physician and tell him/her what you just told us. The shroomery is not a good substitute for real medical advice.




I'm seeing my psychiatrist on Monday. I called her and she said it's possible to have visual problems associated with effexor, but I'm scared because the visuals I get are the same as when I'm tripping. But after my last trip, everything returned to normal once the mushrooms were out of my system. I would get slight visuals after a trip, but they'd be very rare and not really bothersome. I read it takes 4 to 5 days for effexor XR to get out of your system, but I'm so worried the visual problems will persist and that i'll be stuck in a trip for the rest of my life and that I'll have to apply for assisted suicide.


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #23358324 - 06/18/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Everything is going to be ok, and you'll be fine OP. Good vibes.


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #23358331 - 06/18/16 02:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I dont get why people are surprised that their brain can remember things.


Even trips.


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: IveBeenRecycled]
    #23358337 - 06/18/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Everything is going to be ok, and you'll be fine OP. Good vibes.




Thanks, I really hope so :/. I've been so stupid, because of my autism I had such an intense focus on mushrooms and thought they were teh only things that could cure my depression/ocd/ptsd. I used them way too often with not enough time in between. I just hope there is a chance I can go back to how I used to be.


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #23358345 - 06/18/16 03:02 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah psychs dont cure anything.

They only teach


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #23358349 - 06/18/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

The thing I don't understand is that it got a lot worse after starting effexor. before that I hardly ever noticed visuals like this.


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #23358353 - 06/18/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Ditch the shitty pharm drugs


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #23358386 - 06/18/16 03:18 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Just relax man, seriously, just please don't jump to conclusions or to sudden decisions. Like, you'll be fine brother, seriously. A lot of us have been through the same. I was convinced I had HPPD for a while, it was with me all the time. But I'm fine now, it went away about 6 months ago.

Just be responsible, as much as possible, and respect the power of these compounds and you'll be fine. Titrate properly if you need to. Alot of SNRI's can cause major shit. Just go easy on and off them please.


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #23358407 - 06/18/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Chill op. There is nothing outside your loved ones worth dying for. Take everything one step at a time. You have an army of people supporting you here :shroomeryhead::highfive1:


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #23358421 - 06/18/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

You know you got me really tiwsted on this one OP. Venlafaxine is a fucker of a drug, I've seen what it does. You've only been on it a few days and that's when the issues started right? Plus you got psychiatrists appointment Monday. So you took 37.5mg for 4 days, and then not for 2 after right ?


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23358444 - 06/18/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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You know you got me really tiwsted on this one OP. Venlafaxine is a fucker of a drug, I've seen what it does. You've only been on it a few days and that's when the issues started right? Plus you got psychiatrists appointment Monday. So you took 37.5mg for 4 days, and then not for 2 after right ?




correct. I have tried almost every antidepressant out there, often with very limited success. Some took the sharp edge off the anxiety, but they never improved my depression.

In 10 hrs it'll have been 3 days since I took my last dose of effexor XR.


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #23358458 - 06/18/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

ok, I'm with ya now man, you shocked me a little with your OP, tripping on mescaline myself at the moment.

So your main focus has been reducing baseline anxiety levels right? I know this stuff reasonably well so stick with me.  So you've done psychedelics a few times and been fine, but it's the SSRI'/SNRI's that have caused the issues right?

How fast have they been cycling you through 'almost every antidepressant out there'? Like over what time period?


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23358469 - 06/18/16 03:54 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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ok, I'm with ya now man, you shocked me a little with your OP, tripping on mescaline myself at the moment.

So your main focus has been reducing baseline anxiety levels right? I know this stuff reasonably well so stick with me.  So you've done psychedelics a few times and been fine, but it's the SSRI'/SNRI's that have caused the issues right?

How fast have they been cycling you through 'almost every antidepressant out there'? Like over what time period?




I have never had a side effect like this one from other antidepressants. Last time I tried an antidepressant was in March (mirtazapine). I stopped because it made me too tired and didn't improve my depression.

I have used mushrooms 9 times or so, but only properly tripped about 7 times. Sometimes they wouldn't work because of the SSRIs I was taking.

I never had disturbing, persistent visuals after psychedelic use. Sometimes I'd notice the trees looking a bit different or curtain slightly moving, but it never bothered me and those visuals were rare. Now it's different, everything seems to vibrate and it annoys/scares me a lot. I worry i'll be like this for the rest of my life.

I used kratom 12 hours before starting effexor, but hardly felt any effect. Also used kanna just before that.


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Re: Need urgent help- very anxious [Re: happyshroomer123]
    #23358480 - 06/18/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

OK, they tried to push my wife onto mirtazapine too, but the side effects were too drastic for her too. The thing is, are you just stopping them of your own accord or working with the psychiatrists on this?

The reason I made a big deal in my first response is that you can't just decide to 'stop' these kind of things when you want - it will worsen all your symptoms if you do so.

So you need to work with these guys (and I don't mean you HAVE you use their drugs in the long run) but you need to work with your psychiatrist. I'm not qualified to advise you on exactly what you need to do, but work with these guys please? They're the specialists.

We're here to support, as a community, but we can't tell you exactly what you must do. Just bear with it and bear with us please man. Speak to the experts as soon as you can. You'll be fine.


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