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Groovy Hobbit
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Looks like Liberty Caps in Free H-Poo?
#23357503 - 06/18/16 10:17 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm getting manure at a new stable, and the pile has a lot of what "look like" liberty caps growing out of it. The temps here in Zone 5a have been in the 80F+ range.
Here is some shake, but - in the top right - some whole shrooms I gathered (on a mirror):

These were dry, so I did not see whether the caps were slimy, nor have I moistened to try a spore print. I did not observe traces of blue bruising, either. (Perhaps that means it's not active?)
Might it be Panaeolus sphinctrinus or P. papilionaceus? Or is it Psilocybe semilanceata after all?
Edited by Groovy Hobbit (06/18/16 10:17 AM)
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Re: Looks like Liberty Caps in Free H-Poo? [Re: Groovy Hobbit]
#23357532 - 06/18/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Coprinoid species I think
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Re: Looks like Liberty Caps in Free H-Poo? [Re: nickm]
#23357605 - 06/18/16 10:49 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Parasola sp. I believe.
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Re: Looks like Liberty Caps in Free H-Poo? [Re: laughingsol]
#23358244 - 06/18/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Coprinopsis sp.
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Re: Looks like Liberty Caps in Free H-Poo? [Re: Joie]
#23358474 - 06/18/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm going to stand by my ID on this one- I believe Parasola to be more likely than Coprinopsis based upon the lack of evidence of a universal veil and subsequent failure to deliquesce.
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Re: Looks like Liberty Caps in Free H-Poo? [Re: laughingsol]
#23359401 - 06/18/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree with Joie
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Re: Looks like Liberty Caps in Free H-Poo? [Re: laughingsol]
#23359949 - 06/19/16 05:47 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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laughingsol said: I believe Parasola to be more likely than Coprinopsis based upon the lack of evidence of a universal veil and subsequent failure to deliquesce.
Well, if dried up soon enough, the deliquescing process will fail. And velar remnants will most likely disappear in the drying.
Other than that, I won't try to make conclusions from that messy photo and lack of info.
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Re: Looks like Liberty Caps in Free H-Poo? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23363362 - 06/20/16 09:59 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks, all, for these suggestions. I am going to read up in the directions you suggest (Parasola sp. and Coprinopsis sp.) before I go back to the pile. Then I'll look for samples showing or not showing deliquesce...
Much appreciation!
Oh, sorry for the scrappy picture. Here's a slightly better shot of just one, although possibly no more revealing:

Edited by Groovy Hobbit (06/20/16 10:02 AM)
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Re: Looks like Liberty Caps in Free H-Poo? [Re: Groovy Hobbit]
#23363410 - 06/20/16 10:20 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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These species often requires microscopy to identify.
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Re: Looks like Liberty Caps in Free H-Poo? [Re: Anglerfish]
#23363420 - 06/20/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anglerfish said: These species often requires microscopy to identify.

I'm here for the microscopy.
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