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WTF Happened To My Grow Skills
    #23357370 - 06/18/16 09:41 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

The last few times I've tried cultivating shrooms I have been unsuccessful and the batch I'm currently working on seems like might be going down the same path.

I am growing PF Tek and have no issues with the colonization of the jars. My issue is once I put them into my homemade terrarium.  The shrooms just simply aren't fruiting. My methods haven't changed and I've grown successfully a few times (including my first several grows) but now all the sudden I'm having problems.

Does anyone ever run into this?  I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to do but it's super fucking frustrating.


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23357419 - 06/18/16 09:55 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

happens to everyone, very humbling


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23357666 - 06/18/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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happens to everyone, very humbling




So now what?  Just keep fucking up batches until one sticks?  I don't like that strategy at all.  What I really don't understand is that my very first batch ever was the most successful one i've had to date - so at a time when i really didn't know what I was doing. 

How often or how many times a day do you guys mist them in the terrarium? 

Optimal temp and humidity in the terrarium is what? 

Thanks guys.  I'm LONG overdue for a boom trip and I have no idea where to get them so until I figure this out, I'm going to have to wait, impatiently.


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23357679 - 06/18/16 11:08 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

How often or how many times a day do you guys mist them in the terrarium? 

depends on where you live, and your climate, how big your terrarium is and how many cakes are in it. is it a SGFC? built correctly?

use your eyes mist when they need it.
0-5 times a day usually

Optimal temp and humidity in the terrarium is what? 

65-80F but 68-72F is normal room temperature and that works great.
humidity = don't fucking worry about it at all. use your eyes look at the mycelium and fruits.


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23357730 - 06/18/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

To find out what you are doing wrong we need more information on your process.  Try to be more specific with your questions and pictures always help.


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: Sporkvirus]
    #23358359 - 06/18/16 03:08 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe I'm not letting them incubate long enough?  I've been birthing them within a day or two after the jar is covered in mycelium.  It's been awhile since I've seen any pins before I dunk them...like no pins.


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23358405 - 06/18/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe I'm not letting them incubate long enough?  I've been birthing them within a day or two after the jar is covered in mycelium.  It's been awhile since I've seen any pins before I dunk them...like no pins.



Well you skipped the consolidation period before birthing so... it's consolidating in fruiting instead.


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: Inocuole]
    #23358442 - 06/18/16 03:41 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Once the jar is fully white do I take it out of the dark during the consolidation period and keep them in indirect sunlight? 

Should I always see pins before birthing them?

Thanks guys. I've had a few successful grows in the past but as you can see I'm still learning


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23358581 - 06/18/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: Mad Season]
    #23358929 - 06/18/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

With the PF TEK I would use a Shotgun fruiting chamber.... i bet that will fix your issues.... post pics of your set up!


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: Inocuole]
    #23359043 - 06/18/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Maybe I'm not letting them incubate long enough?  I've been birthing them within a day or two after the jar is covered in mycelium.  It's been awhile since I've seen any pins before I dunk them...like no pins.



Well you skipped the consolidation period before birthing so... it's consolidating in fruiting instead.






Well there's your problem.  The cakes are gunna pin untill they're ready, so its better to give them a week + as a "consolidation" period to let the myc eat up. If you birth them right at full colonization they are just going to sit and do nothing for that week, then sit around another few days before starting to pin.

You could let them sit in the jars until they start pinning, but I think you can achieve better pinsets in fruiting conditions


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: mushpunx]
    #23363581 - 06/20/16 11:25 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

My current setup is using two tupperwear containers and stacking them on top of each other to create a dome...and I do not seal the two together so that fresh air is still able to go in/out of the dome.  Inside the homemade terrarium is about 1.5" of moist perlite.  I then spray the inside (not directly onto the cakes) about 6 times per day.  This is the same system/setup I have followed since my very first harvest and have had pretty good luck until recently. 

In addition to the cakes not producing any shrooms, I still have several jars that aren't fully colonized yet.  In fact they seemed to have stalled out entirely and I see none or very little change from day to day.  WTF is going on?!?!?!??

I'm planning to trip in mid-July with my two buddies down in Houston and I'm afraid I won't be able to deliver on showing up to the party with boomers...pretty sad really. 

Is there another method that I could use that takes ½ the time that PF Tek takes?  Maybe I can order some more spores and get a harvest completed between now and then?


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: DustyBottoms] * 1
    #23363586 - 06/20/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Pf TEK is super quick Idk why people stop following the directions when they get to the fruiting chamber part though.


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23363623 - 06/20/16 11:47 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

:shrug:

People follow the recipe and then improvise the FC. I don't get it either.

Pics of your FC and jars might help.

If you're depending on that gap between the tubs for FAE, then that might be the problem. If there are no holes under and around the 1.5" of perlite, that's 2 problems: Not enough perlite and no airflow through it.

It's hard to say what's up with your jars without pics. Tall regular-mouth jars are more prone to stalling. Suffocating the cakes causes stalling. Contamination causes stalling.


There's lots of things that work sometimes, but then fail. That's why they aren't called "tried and true".


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #23363632 - 06/20/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

i never understood that either. you take the time to make jars and inoculate, and then wait for 3 weeks or so, and then theyre like "meh, im gonna go off the tek that worked for me so far, and screw up what i worked for." ill never understand that.


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #23363638 - 06/20/16 11:54 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I recently did my first grow, and i started in a wrong fruiting chamber although i put holes in and all the rest as soon as i made a proper sgfc like the tek i had many fruits :laugh: was wonderful hahahaha, so i got my second grow just birthed (this morning actually) and so im hopeful things go as well, the sgfc made all the difference though for me.


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: Spellbound]
    #23363653 - 06/20/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Happened to me recently. Went from growing tubs on tubs to not getting a single viable jar. What I learned was to empty your Chinese proverb bowl. Start over, forget what you know. I did and now I have viable jars. :shrug: Otherwise I recommend bleaching out your house.


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: Bazookatooth]
    #23363820 - 06/20/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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Otherwise I recommend bleaching out your house.




:ohgodwhy:

I have never found that necessary..


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: Inocuole]
    #23363848 - 06/20/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Idk what happened, one day my procedure was sterile then out of nowhere this black mold took over everything, mucor I was told it was. Nothing would colonize so I stripped my room bare, washed everything with colorsafe bleach and washed the walls, ceiling and floors with bleach. Overkill? Probably but at least now I'm producing again.


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: Bazookatooth]
    #23364150 - 06/20/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Same spores? We're you germinating cleanly on agar? Do you work in a sab? Those are the things I'd always do before stripping down a whole room


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: Mad Season]
    #23364281 - 06/20/16 04:27 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I use a SAB, nothing special just to specs. I try to follow RR or Frank to the T. I've yet to do some agar work till I have some real space.


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: Bazookatooth]
    #23364853 - 06/20/16 07:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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I use a SAB, nothing special just to specs. I try to follow RR or Frank to the T. I've yet to do some agar work till I have some real space.





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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23364866 - 06/20/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I bought RogerRabbit's "Let's Grow Mushrooms!" As a base and Frank Horrigan's "How Frank Gets Shit Done" journal. look them up here you'll find them in seconds


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: Bazookatooth]
    #23370491 - 06/22/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)



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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23370504 - 06/22/16 04:52 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

Update:

I built a proper shotgun terrarium and I've starting to see a few pins which is good. 

I'm still dealing with a few problems through...

1.  I still have about 5 jars that are stalling the fuck out while colonizing.  There is a VERY small change from one day to the next so Im not sure if I should just be patient or if there's truly a problem with them.  They were inoculated over 6 weeks ago.  GT btw, not sure if that's relevant. 

2.  I just birthed a couple cakes and both of them have this spider web-y thing going on and it looks like it could be a contaminant.  What do you think...




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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: DustyBottoms]
    #23370570 - 06/22/16 05:12 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I looks like over-grown but healthy myc to me. When you rinse it, I'd still try to rinse off the verm contam barrier in case there's something waiting for fruiting conditions.


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Re: WTF Happened To My Grow Skills [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #23370636 - 06/22/16 05:38 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

How about the stalling jars?  Or those likely fucked from here on out?


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